Like the melee gameplay is offering the same richness, with transformations and combos ? Because that's the singularity of BB among their titles (with Sekiro too). The other would be the theme, but it's valid for all their games so not unique.
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I totally agree. There's no wrong way to play these games and people get worried they're messing it up.
yeah it's absolutely a personal thing and psyching yourself out. I've never found it an actual flaw of the game itself. just how someone's brain works
Hell no. DS3 battles DS2 for last spot.
Also didn't you drop BB back in the day because of performance? I take it you went back and beat it since then.
Yep. No single playthrough of any player will be 100% the same and that's beauty of it. This is a true adventure.
FromSoft, what a developer.
Bethesda released The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim on November 11, 2011
Shortly after, on the 22nd of November FromSoft released Dark Souls.
Then Dark Souls 2, Bloodborne, Dark Souls 3, Sekiro, and now Elden Ring.
And for all we know, they'll release yet another masterpiece before The Elder Scrolls VI, still, lmao.
Bethesda released The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim on November 11, 2011
Shortly after, on the 22nd of November FromSoft released Dark Souls.
Then Dark Souls 2, Bloodborne, Dark Souls 3, Sekiro, and now Elden Ring.
And for all we know, they'll release yet another masterpiece before The Elder Scrolls VI, still, lmao.
Thanks for this bit of info. I love BB but I'm ready to move on from its constant references.
So many people are stuck thinking the Bloodbourne formula can't be topped. The game is 7 years old and jagged to hell with bad frame pacing. It was bound to be topped and I'm glad to hear that it has been. I thought Sekiro and DS3 were better.
IT's funny because FROM thought that this would have the highest clear rate of their games due to increased accessibility, but it will probably be the lowest because a ton of people who otherwise wouldn't touch it are going to because of the hype.
I feel that most Souls players, at some point, have had to overcome the feeling of stress or being psyched out by some challenge, some boss, some stressful path of the level.
When I played Demon's Souls, I was mostly stressed out throughout most of my first playthroughs. There's always a barrier, a mental struggle before things start clicking for you. Sometimes it only clicks once you revisit a level after a long period of time, sometimes it clicks after you take a break, but it's in those small victories that you gain confidence in your ability and your enjoyment of the game grows in turn.
With that said, I disagree with the implication that just because a person is psyched out or stressing about what they should that they are not enjoying the game. I was fully stressed out of my mind playing Demon's Souls, particularly on levels like Shrine of Storms, but that does not mean I was not enjoying myself, it just meant that I was finding it challenging and was fully immersed into its oppressive environment.
Nowadays playing those same sections feels like a cakewalk, but I still get a sense of satisfaction upon rediscovering how much I improved as a player.
I replayed BB in preparation for Elden Ring. BB holds up and is still one of the greatest games ever made. Sekiro is the only game From has made that I think is as good. Excited for Elden Ring for sure!
Oh, yeah. I definitely agree that tech issues should have an impact on the overall score. I guess we'll have to see how widespread those issues are once PC players get their hands on the game.
I wonder how much the GRRM contribution and name will contribute to those sales. Is his name listed on the box anywhere?
This is me when playing Persona games :P
For Souls though I pay almost no attention to if I'm doing things right or if I'm missing characters. Stuff just happens around me, I have no idea why, and that's part of the magic of it.
Oh absolutely agreed. If you read his thread, the context here is that he's really only dabbled in Souls games (and presumably this is one component as to why).
I mean bethesda also released fallout 4 and fallout 76 ( main team helped develop that as well according to Shrier) and are set to release Starfield this year.
Not a commentary about the quality of the games, just that Bethesda games undoubtedly are of larger scales and require more dev time.
Listening to Andy Cortez and Tamoor Hussain discussing, and they each played 60+ hours and didn't finish it, and had totally different experiences, too.
BB is a jagged mess to me now and I tried to play it a couple months ago. It gave me a terrible headache and made me nauseous. It was not a good experience and I'd love a remake to fix this. Even if it's just a 4K 60 patch.
Regardless of what Elden Ring actually is, I don't think she's right about starting points. There is a bunch of stuff that's been improved as FROM has become more knowledgeable about player experience. Just things like menus and what the player can do. For example, you can only roll in 8 directions in DS 1. You can get cursed a few hours into the game in a way that many people just start over. They seemed to have left a lot of this behind, but kept the stuff that makes it a unique experience.
None of their games hold your hand, but the more recent ones seem like friendlier places to start (even if some are more difficult).
For newcomers let me tell you this.
Despite concerns of difficulty, when you push through it and get to those bosses AND defeat them, the sense of accomplishment is on a whole different level.
First time playing Demons Souls on PS3. It was tough as nails. When I finally beat the Phalanx I was happier than a pig in shit.
Despite concerns of difficulty, when you push through it and get to those bosses AND defeat them, the sense of accomplishment is on a whole different level.
First time playing Demons Souls on PS3. It was tough as nails. When I finally beat the Phalanx I was happier than a pig in shit.
That sucks. I got over the tech issues pretty quick and feel in love all over again. Maybe they'll make a PC or PS5 version some day.
Valve will release Half Life Alyx PS5 the week after Horizons PVR2 game is released.
It's guaranteed.
I've never dabbled in magic in a Souls game, but this might be the first time I try. Looks pretty fun. ER will also be the first time I start a playthrough as a Deprived/Wretch. I'm going to savour the experience of discovery. A nice distraction from the miserable real world.
Not to mention have amazing modding potential as well. Bethesda games are incredible feats.
I think they are just saying From is weirdly quick at putting out hit after hit.
confession- I didn't really like DS3
I had fun in the first playthrough but every time I think about it, it reminds me of modern WWE (except way better, obviously)
lots of hype "moments" but nothing that really drags me in and the DS1 callbacks were more obnoxious than they were in dark souls 2
I had fun in the first playthrough but every time I think about it, it reminds me of modern WWE (except way better, obviously)
lots of hype "moments" but nothing that really drags me in and the DS1 callbacks were more obnoxious than they were in dark souls 2
From what I've seen/read this doesn't really seem to be too different than the previous Souls games, at least not different enough to buy it at full price. After playing like 5 of these games in a row its hard to really care about "Souls, but bigger". Might play this years from now when its cheap and im bored or something
For me, I include in the postgame the extra moons that that were sent to each planet and the collectathon to 999 in addition to the dark side stuff and the throwback kingdom. I found revisiting the levels and trick jumping experimentation and challenges to be extremely fun.
I apologize, your post was totally fine and I didn't mean to imply otherwise. In fact, this thread is exactly where this sort of discussion makes sense. They're totally fine on their own - it's fun to be excited and nothing you said came across as anything other than goofing around. So really, I am sorry as I didn't want to lessen any of your excitement there.
On my end, it's just when comments like that pile up in threads otherwise unrelated to Elden Ring (which has happened in several other review threads or OT's recently), it gets really old really fast. I have absolutely zero problem with Elden Ring until everything else gets compared to it.
OK, that is hilarious.
I'll quote my avatar on this one.
Wow...that sounds amazing and a brilliant way to collaborate on building a new IP
Also it's almost as if the game is purposely ugly most of the time. Hard to love the art direction IMO.
If taking spotlight away from a game equals 20+ million sales I'd say Sony is happy that it's happening again.
If you asked me 6 months ago if I was buying this I'd have said no. I've never beaten a Souls game. I've tried but always hit a wall. But I've recently beaten Nioh 2 ng+ and playing ng++. I feel like it's time to try again.
Bloodborne is my GOAT and for me its essential to include the DLC in that (because 4 of the best bosses are in that).
So for me when people say this, its just an amazing level of praise. I know the guy from Game Informer said that BB was his goat and that ER would top it if the level of quality was maintained.
Why not? Nothing wrong with comparisons
Well, the only wrong comparison would be to compare two identical objects
I can tell you from playing Bloodborne and the CNT that it is miles ahead of Bloodborne's combat.
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