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Ra · Apr 21, 2022

Putrid Avatar is the only enemy/boss in the game that's made me say "this is bullshit".

It sucks as a colossal weapon user when the AI decides to not swing at you but to instead just spam the rot spreading leap and the keep away ground stomp, like wtf on those attempts I feel like there's just nothing I can do. And just like with the Valiant Gargoyles, it feels unfair that the AOE toxin cloud that specifically targets melee users also does damage, except this time it covers 3x the frontal area and does massive tick damage even if you get caught rolling out of the edge of the cloud.

This is on top of the fact that mistiming a melee attack deletes 50-70% of my health in one swing.

I'm going to eventually win but fuck.

Fhtagn · Apr 21, 2022

Ra said:
Putrid Avatar is the only enemy/boss in the game that's made me say "this is bullshit".

It sucks as a colossal weapon user when the AI decides to not swing at you but to instead just spam the rot spreading leap and the keep away ground stomp, like wtf on those attempts I feel like there's just nothing I can do. And just like with the Valiant Gargoyles, it feels unfair that the AOE toxin cloud that specifically targets melee users also does damage, except this time it covers 3x the frontal area and does massive tick damage even if you get caught rolling out of the edge of the cloud.

This is on top of the fact that mistiming a melee attack deletes 50-70% of my health in one swing.

I'm going to eventually win but fuck.

I got so annoyed at this guy as a colossal sword user that I beat him without healing.

I don't know why that made sense to me but it did.

Basically, never over-commit, get used to running away, and eventually you'll also have the timing down for his swings, watch the bottom tip of the weapon and wait til it moves to roll to avoid the catch.

chanimal · Apr 21, 2022

Ra said:
Putrid Avatar is the only enemy/boss in the game that's made me say "this is bullshit".

It sucks as a colossal weapon user when the AI decides to not swing at you but to instead just spam the rot spreading leap and the keep away ground stomp, like wtf on those attempts I feel like there's just nothing I can do. And just like with the Valiant Gargoyles, it feels unfair that the AOE toxin cloud that specifically targets melee users also does damage, except this time it covers 3x the frontal area and does massive tick damage even if you get caught rolling out of the edge of the cloud.

This is on top of the fact that mistiming a melee attack deletes 50-70% of my health in one swing.

I'm going to eventually win but fuck.

The rot cloud does a shitton of damage. What I found helpful as a colossal weapon build was to roll multiple times away from him when he jumps. Or if you're near his sides, try rolling towards his back to get an attack in as the AOE rot seems to spread in a frontal wide cone.

Ra · Apr 21, 2022

Fhtagn said:
I got so annoyed at this guy as a colossal sword user that I beat him without healing.

I don't know why that made sense to me but it did.

Basically, never over-commit, get used to running away, and eventually you'll also have the timing down for his swings, watch the bottom tip of the weapon and wait til it moves to roll to avoid the catch.

Yeah it freaking gets me with the delayed overhead slam so many times, I roll a fraction of a frame to early and I can hear the thing laughing at me as it caves in my Tarnished's skull.

I've started just letting it kill me and resetting the encounter every time I get hit by the first swing, I'm in full petty mode at this point. I wouldn't be so frustrated if I wasn't getting it down to 20-15% health, the win is right there but I keep fucking up.

Putrid Avatar is on my list with Greatshield Crucible Knight; whoever designed their offensive packages was selfish as fuck. Or just an asshole, I don't know.

chanimal said:
The rot cloud does a shitton of damage. What I found helpful as a colossal weapon build was to roll multiple times away from him when he jumps. Or if you're near his sides, try rolling towards his back to get an attack in as the AOE rot seems to spread in a frontal wide cone.

Yeah I try to roll to the side. Just sucks sometimes how it can start the leap animation while I'm in its crotch stuck in recovery frames from a heavy attack, and I have to avoid the shockwave first, finding myself deep in the cloud and forced to eat some of the rot damage.

I can dodge into a swing, start an attack and as I am hitting it begins the rot dance and I'm going "oh fuck".

Hotbug · Apr 21, 2022

chanimal said:
Needed to share this. Anyone run into this bug in the optional Godskin Noble encounter? This was INFURIATING LMAO.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQx5hSr7uws

My boy literally started his rolling attack, spammed different moves mid-roll, and then continued rolling along with zero windup.

Yep. He does this if you use either spirit ashes or summoned players for some reason.

KrillinLikeAVillan · Apr 21, 2022

I took a wrong turn and now i am in resident evil 4 apparently.

Zombegoast · Apr 21, 2022

super-famicom said:
I love hearing this kind of thing! Where did you go when you started the game?

I headed south and did as much as I can minus Caelid

Ra · Apr 21, 2022

Changed the mix of what was in my Wondrous flask and beat that sucker ass Avatar in a couple tries, after struggling for hours. What a difference the right drugs can make.

I feel like I've graduated into a proper Witcher now, Geralt would be proud.

Deleted member 91227 · Apr 21, 2022

At level 165 and nearly 130 hours played, I've beaten Elden Ring! Had a devil of a time with the final boss and finally resorted to summoning a co-op helper for the first time and beat it first attempt. We made a good team with them doing melee attacks and doing a lot better job keeping aggro that Mimic or Tiche were in my prior attempts and let me get off some Comet Azurs and melt it pretty quickly. As many have noted, the final fight would be a lot less annoying with a checkpoint between the two bosses.

As a whole, I really only struggled early on, and then with Malenia and the final boss. Going mage with a lot of points in INT (ended at the final soft cap at 80), moonveil and lots of rock sling, comet azur and Mimic tear worked really well for me, as did putting decent points into vigor (at 57 currently) and 25 points in endurance and wearing equipment weight increase charms to be able to wear some heavier armor so as to not be squishy. Made me mostly feel like a bad as wizard, who could also fight up close when needed. Only respecced to a blood build for Malenia and then immediately back to my usual build.

Did the save scumming and watched all six endings. I think the Ranni ending is my favorite so I did that one again to have it as my final one (not that it matters) Now to go see what I have left to knock out for the platinum. No interest into going into NG+.

Edit: Just 3 trophies left. Need to find all the legendary ashen remains, sorceries and incantations and talismans. Think I already have a strong majority of them.

demosthenes · Apr 21, 2022

Ra said:
Putrid Avatar is the only enemy/boss in the game that's made me say "this is bullshit".

It sucks as a colossal weapon user when the AI decides to not swing at you but to instead just spam the rot spreading leap and the keep away ground stomp, like wtf on those attempts I feel like there's just nothing I can do. And just like with the Valiant Gargoyles, it feels unfair that the AOE toxin cloud that specifically targets melee users also does damage, except this time it covers 3x the frontal area and does massive tick damage even if you get caught rolling out of the edge of the cloud.

This is on top of the fact that mistiming a melee attack deletes 50-70% of my health in one swing.

I'm going to eventually win but fuck.

He's the only boss I've run away from so far. I'll come back to him later, was really annoying trying to take him down.

edit: Died a few times to the 2x Gargoyle's down in Sofria. That boss fight was annoying. Luckily a friend was on and I could summon him.

jotun? · Apr 21, 2022

So I'm at the

frenzied flame place, and Melina is begging me not to proceed.

Without spoiling much, should I go in or just leave it alone? I'm not interested in anything that requires Faith

Deleted member 91227 · Apr 21, 2022

jotun? said:
So I'm at the

frenzied flame place, and Melina is begging me not to proceed.

Without spoiling much, should I go in or just leave it alone? I'm not interested in anything that requires Faith

It's tied to one ending. You can just not go through for now and then warp back to that grace later if you want that ending or are save scumming to see multiple in one playthrough. As far as I know it doesn't impact anything else other than making your eyes look weird.

Xeteh · Apr 21, 2022

jotun? said:
So I'm at the

frenzied flame place, and Melina is begging me not to proceed.

Without spoiling much, should I go in or just leave it alone? I'm not interested in anything that requires Faith

In that case I'd leave it. It unlocks an ending but also locks you to that specific ending. Wait until you get to endgame and look it up.

MonthOLDpickle · Apr 21, 2022

jotun? said:
So I'm at the

frenzied flame place, and Melina is begging me not to proceed.

Without spoiling much, should I go in or just leave it alone? I'm not interested in anything that requires Faith

It's tied to an ending that grants an achievement. I just kept it for last (I save scummed). My favorite and I wasn't faith anything.

If you did do Hyetta's quest you get a special seal that requires nothing to wield, scale with everything tho a bit low and buffs frenzy spells.

EatChildren · Apr 21, 2022

MAY CHAOS TAKE THE WORLD

EntelechyFuff · Apr 21, 2022

Does any Souls game have such a varied list of "hard" encounters as ER?

I love reading this thread and seeing people complaining about enemies I don't even remember...I had to look up the Putrid Avatar even though I definitely killed every one of them. Seeing complaints about the Draconic Tree Sentinel is fun too, since I deleted it at first blush without any fanfare (and got genuinely stuck on the boss it was guarding).

I am absolutely not trying to downplay anyone's struggle. Rather I think reading these stories is a testament to just how wide a variety of encounters are lurking in this game based on how you play and how you fight. Even in my own experience, I was sailing through on my second character only to get extremely destroyed repeatedly by the boss of the Deeproot Depths--a boss that seemed laughably underwhelming the first time through.

The hills and valleys of ER are so much more fluid than any other Souls game.

tmdorsey · Apr 21, 2022

Damn. I'm feeling so conflicted right now. I was fighting Malenia for like the 30th time. Staggered her and was getting ready to visceral her to end her 1st phase when the 2nd phase cutscene triggered. Skip the cutscene and when the fight resumed it had me visceraling her in her second phase with no HP. So she's defeated before I battled her second phase.

I really don't feel comfortable with this win at all. Damnit!

Xeteh · Apr 21, 2022

Pretty happy with myself. Rushed around to get my character as strong as possible without killing any major bosses so that I could rush straight to the boss of Shaded Castle and get the Marais' Execution Sword. Killed him at level 30, I'm honestly surprised the patch didn't nerf the poise damage of Flame of the Redmanes. That was fun though.

tmdorsey said:
Damn. I'm feeling so conflicted right now. I was fighting Malenia for like the 30th time. Staggered her and was getting ready to visceral her to end her 1st phase when the 2nd phase cutscene triggered. Skip the cutscene and when the fight resumed it had me visceraling her in her second phase with no HP. So she's defeated before I battled her second phase.

I really don't feel comfortable with this win at all. Damnit!

Yeah, sounds like the patch introduced a bug where any boss fight with a transition can be ruined by a bleed/frostbite proc being the last hit of damage that causes the transition. It just instantly kills the boss in the next phase. Hopefully they hotfix it.

CrocM · Apr 21, 2022

SP. · Apr 22, 2022

Xeteh said:
Yeah, sounds like the patch introduced a bug where any boss fight with a transition can be ruined by a bleed/frostbite proc being the last hit of damage that causes the transition. It just instantly kills the boss in the next phase. Hopefully they hotfix it.

The Malenia bug in the transition phase has been there since launch. It's extremely repeatable if you end her first phase with a critical attack.

Lobster Roll · Apr 22, 2022

Ra said:
Putrid Avatar is the only enemy/boss in the game that's made me say "this is bullshit".

It sucks as a colossal weapon user when the AI decides to not swing at you but to instead just spam the rot spreading leap and the keep away ground stomp, like wtf on those attempts I feel like there's just nothing I can do. And just like with the Valiant Gargoyles, it feels unfair that the AOE toxin cloud that specifically targets melee users also does damage, except this time it covers 3x the frontal area and does massive tick damage even if you get caught rolling out of the edge of the cloud.

This is on top of the fact that mistiming a melee attack deletes 50-70% of my health in one swing.

I'm going to eventually win but fuck.

If doesn't help that the arena is like 10 feet x 10 feet and if you back up towards the hill the mob comes your way. Fight took me a few tries and pissed me off plenty.

Deleted member 91227 · Apr 22, 2022

Woohoo! Platinum done at a 131 hours and 14 minutes. :D Finished at level 165.

I was a little worried I'd have several tombs/caves/hero grave to do to get the legendary things I was missing for remaining trophies. But thankfully only had one tomb and one hero grave and the other 3 things I was missing were easy world grabs and one dragon incantation to purchase.

Had a blast with the game and glad I gave it a chance as I thought I'd fell off the games. I loved (and platinumed) Bloodborne and got through everything through DLC 1 in Dark Souls 3 but couldn't get into DS1 or DS2 or the Demon's Souls remake later on. This really clicked with me playing as a mage (but with decent points in vigor and stamina to wear heavier armor and not be squishy). As I said eariler, other than the usual struggles the first several hours while figuring things out I mostly cruised other than Malenia and Elden Beast. Only summoned a co-op helper for the latter, but always used Summon Ashes--usually Mimic once I had it.

I'll probably mess around in the world here and there as I"m sure I missed a lot of world bosses, tombs, caves etc. Maybe go and look up sites of grace and find all in each area as a way to help find that stuff. But no interest in starting NG+ or a new character. I'll just wait for DLC as I'm pretty burnt out after 131+ hours of this right after 81+ of Horizon Forbidden West (need to do a few things to get the plat there eventually though). Will likely game less for a bit, catch up on some shows and the gaming I do will be more pick up and play stuff like getting back to Kirby, Halo Infinite MP and Forza Horizon 5 as I need a break from big games for a bit.

Xeteh · Apr 22, 2022

I need a message option to let people know they can hold dodge/sprint the climb up ladders faster. The amount of ghosts I see that just climb ladders slowly kills me.

Guppeth · Apr 22, 2022

Xeteh said:
I need a message option to let people know they can hold dodge/sprint the climb up ladders faster. The amount of ghosts I see that just climb ladders slowly kills me.

You already do. For every slow-climbing person you see, another slow-climbing person sees you and realises they can climb faster. You're doing good works just by playing the game.

Xeteh · Apr 22, 2022

Guppeth said:
You already do. For every slow-climbing person you see, another slow-climbing person sees you and realises they can climb faster. You're doing good works just by playing the game.

Yeah but that's one person. A message could potentially reach all the "persons".

John Harker · Apr 22, 2022

Is it just me or is putrid avatar like way harder than any of these trees? No idea why km
Struggling at lvl 117 😂

RockyBalboa_ · Apr 22, 2022

Don't you just hate it when in a boss fight you FINALLY get to the point where you're 1 or maybe 2 hits away from victory, and you die......

Then you don't get to that same point in the fight until another "xxx" amount of attempts, and the same thing happens again

LOL :-/

Rocketz · Apr 22, 2022

Alright homestretch. I'm finally at the final location. Hope to wrap this up probably Saturday night since tomorrow is my wedding anniversary.

Fachasaurus · Apr 22, 2022

I am about to complete Rannis questline but I am so confused as to where I am supposed to go after or what the next questline I should tackle. Is there a comprehensive, almost step by step guide to this game somewhere? I feel like I have only been finding several walkthroughs of specific questlines and I was hoping for a more A-Z kinda guide. I have done pretty much everything so far guideless but I want to get through the game now since I have some free time coming up to binge it!

Additionally, I think I am getting bored of Moonveil as I have been using it for like 100+ levels at this point. I think the next area I am approaching is the Atlus sections of the game. So can someone recommend a different weapon that is really fun to use but doesn't swing like I am moving molasses? Want to mess around with a new build maybe but going STR/INT feels intimidating because of the slow attacks - even though some of those weapons look incredible!

Red Liquorice · Apr 22, 2022

RockyBalboa_ said:
Don't you just hate it when in a boss fight you FINALLY get to the point where you're 1 or maybe 2 hits away from victory, and you die......

Then you don't get to that same point in the fight until another "xxx" amount of attempts, and the same thing happens again

LOL :-/

I choke like this, it's almost a self-fulfilling prophecy I can sense coming when it happens. Thanks brain!

Jonnykong · Apr 22, 2022

I thought I'd try doing some multiplayer last night for the first time, so I put down my finger outside Rennala's door and waited for a random to summon me in. All was going well, and then I died right at the start of her second phase 😂

I've never been so embarrassed.

Don't think I'll be doing that again for a while.

guybrushfreeman · Apr 22, 2022

Is there a guide to save scum for the different ending achievements? Is it something you can do at the last minute or do you need to prepare?

T.Rex In F-14 · Apr 22, 2022

guybrushfreeman said:
Is there a guide to save scum for the different ending achievements? Is it something you can do at the last minute or do you need to prepare?

You can do it all after defeating the final boss. Upload your save after that and then you can do all the endings using save scum. Guide here: https://www.powerpyx.com/elden-ring-how-to-get-all-endings/

Icarian · Apr 22, 2022

Third playthrough, I realized just now that you can actually use the grace at the Roundhold table... You don't have to get ON the table.

chanimal · Apr 22, 2022

Icarian said:
Third playthrough, I realized just now that you can actually use the grace at the Roundhold table... You don't have to get ON the table.

Lmao. It took me second playthrough after I did a 200+ hour first playthrough to realize that rune arcs are required to activate the great runes, rather than those being passive buffs on equip.

Hydeus · Apr 22, 2022

Icarian said:
Third playthrough, I realized just now that you can actually use the grace at the Roundhold table... You don't have to get ON the table.

What ? You can use it ?

Icarian · Apr 22, 2022

Hydeus said:
What ? You can use it ?

Yeah, get close to the table without jumping on it and the prompt will appear lol.

JediTimeBoy · Apr 22, 2022

Icarian said:
Third playthrough, I realized just now that you can actually use the grace at the Roundhold table... You don't have to get ON the table.

For like almost 50 hours, I thought you had to sit on the chairs to use it.

Djredline · Apr 22, 2022

Took me more attempts to reach the frenzied flame door than to beat malenia 🤣

Also wondered why I had an additional achievement missing and found that I'm missing regal ancestor spirit and had only done the normal version.

guybrushfreeman · Apr 22, 2022

T.Rex In F-14 said:
You can do it all after defeating the final boss. Upload your save after that and then you can do all the endings using save scum. Guide here: https://www.powerpyx.com/elden-ring-how-to-get-all-endings/

Thank so much. That's perfect

limone · Apr 22, 2022

Hydeus said:
What ? You can use it ?

I realized that after ending an entire playthrough, lol

Motorcycle Dork · Apr 22, 2022

Lake of Rot....

Froms sure like their swamps don't they?

Cudpug · Apr 22, 2022

Am I sadistic that the Lake of Rot has been one of my favourite areas?

I happened to have the mushroom gear and I have Fire Cleanse Me, so I found it perfectly manageable and even enjoyable rather than frustrating and unfair. Running from platform to platform added a different tension to the gameplay.

Duffking · Apr 22, 2022

I reached the mountaintops last night and immediately did not like these Zamor knights.

Are enemies here cold resistant? Been using dual cold clayman harpoons and wondering if I should swap them to standard and magic infuse them instead (or keen instead and use the spell, maybe? I have 20 dex)

rahji · Apr 22, 2022

I really like my current setup: Bolt of Gransax with that juicy lightning bolt for narrow corridors, bloodhound fang for basically everything else and Rogier's Rapier with Glintstone Phalanx for some magic business. Packed altogether in hoslow armor I am cruising through the game. I just miss a stylish shield.

harry the spy · Apr 22, 2022

Man I finally got to Caelis boss

Radahn

and I'm kinda sad I didn't face him pre nerf. Got him on my second trial (lvl 68) and it wasn't that hard at all - perhaps I should have

not summoned all these characters but it was too fun and unusual to have a big battle not to indulge

.

Also maybe I'm being unlucky I what I'm finding but as a mostly dex character it feels like slim pickings compared to STR. I love the big curved bloodhound blade but seeing all these STR weapons I can't wield makes me feel I'm missing out. Also there are so so so so many spells maybe I should respec as a spell caster lol.

This being said; a game this good should be illegal.

Rubmifer · Apr 22, 2022

harry the spy said:
Man I finally got to Caelis boss

Radahn

and I'm kinda sad I didn't face him pre nerf. Got him on my second trial (lvl 68) and it wasn't that hard at all - perhaps I should have

not summoned all these characters but it was too fun and unusual to have a big battle not to indulge

.

I thought they buffed him back up again in one of the latest patches?

DPB · Apr 22, 2022

Magikarpet said:
I am about to complete Rannis questline but I am so confused as to where I am supposed to go after or what the next questline I should tackle. Is there a comprehensive, almost step by step guide to this game somewhere? I feel like I have only been finding several walkthroughs of specific questlines and I was hoping for a more A-Z kinda guide. I have done pretty much everything so far guideless but I want to get through the game now since I have some free time coming up to binge it!

Additionally, I think I am getting bored of Moonveil as I have been using it for like 100+ levels at this point. I think the next area I am approaching is the Atlus sections of the game. So can someone recommend a different weapon that is really fun to use but doesn't swing like I am moving molasses? Want to mess around with a new build maybe but going STR/INT feels intimidating because of the slow attacks - even though some of those weapons look incredible!

Wing of Astel will easily work with any build that uses Moonveil as it's another DEX/INT weapon. The weapon skill is very good at breaking poise and wiping out groups of enemies, and strong attacks do lots of bonus damage from the projectiles they fire.

nelsonroyale · Apr 22, 2022

Ricker said:
I gave up on him once I found out you can run past him to the fog door and enter.

Nacho Papi said:
For real...I couldn't dodge that lightning for the life me. Died more to that enemy than the boss he was guarding 😅

I feel like I need to get this ^&^^&%*% and I have the ultimate spam weapon as well as chicken tactics. But he has as much spam power as I do.

Nacho Papi · Apr 22, 2022

nelsonroyale said:
But he has as much spam power as I do.

Ultimate fairness.

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