Eidos Montreal has apparently 700 (!) employees, they can't possibly work only on Guardians of The Galaxy and Avengers right?

[Raigor]

The studio went from 500 devs back in 2018 to over 700 as of 2020 and they are working with Crystal Dynamics, Crystal Dynamics Northwest and Nixxes on Marvel's Avengers and Jason Schreier revealed years ago that they are also working on Guardians of The Galaxy.

700 devs are a lot and i don't think they all of them working on GOTG and Marvel's Avengers, could we possibly see a new IP? The return of Thief? Or maybe they can finish Adam Jensen story?

With 700 employees they are the biggest Square Enix studio by far and it's crazy to see them expending this much

 

[Stalker]

700 employee's =/= 700 devs

 

[Deleted member 420]

Probably

 

[JigglesBunny]

I just want my Mankind Divided sequel...

 

[Raigor]

700 employee's =/= 700 devs

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Sure, but a huge chunk is made of actual devs.

 

[Duffking]

700 won't just be dev staff, in all likelihood. Administration, etc.

Even then... TLOU2 had a total of 2000 people work on it at some point.

 

[Dphex]

I just want my Mankind Divided sequel...

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That won´t be happening anytime soon.

 

[Desfrog]

Sounds about right for two AAA games.

 

[Strings]

That's about two big AAA games ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

[Jonnax]

Marvel is a money maker that can support 700 employees.

A new Deus Ex isn't going to sell Sony first party numbers.

 

[Raigor]

Even then... TLOU2 had a total of 2000 people work on it at some point.

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TLOU 2 number is with outsourcing, this is the whole studio.

Naughty Dog does not have 2000 people working in the studio.

 

[Stalker]

Sure, but a huge chunk is made of actual devs.

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Bungie has 600 employee's and makes 1 game. They have a second in early development.

 

[kami_sama]

I just want my Mankind Divided sequel...

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Me too, me too...
But considering how it bombed, we should be thankful we got two really good dlcs.

 

[Raigor]

A new Deus Ex isn't going to sell Sony first party numbers.

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I mean, Square Enix spent over 100-137 million USD for Shadow of The Tomb Raider.


They can make a Deus Ex game without spending a $100m on the project.

 

[DOBERMAN INC]

Please have a secret Deus Ex in the works.

 

[Plinkerton]

700 employees doesn't seem particularly noteworthy for a AAA developer in 2020...? Unless I'm missing something? Don't like a billion people work on Assassins Creed games every year?

They're supporting the launch of a AAA GaaS game while also working on their own thing so that number seems reasonable enough to me.

 

[show me your skeleton]

600 of them are lawyers signing exclusivity deals with sony

 

[AHA-Lambda]

Are they still actually working on GotG?

 

[Duffking]

TLOU 2 number is with outsourcing, this is the whole studio.

Naughty Dog does not have 2000 people working in the studio.

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Neither does Eidos Montreal, though. Which is why it's feasible they could all be on this one project. 700 staff interally, even more externally.

 

[Yuntu]

Are they still actually working on GotG?

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We havn't heard anything about it being cancelled yet, so probably.

 

[Mac Dalton]

I just want my Mankind Divided sequel...

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Me too

 

[Vault]

i hope the Gotg game has better models than the Avengers game

i don't need discount MCU knockoff versions

 

[Galkinator]

Sounds about right for two high profile AAA games tbh, didn't even know there was a GoTG game coming

 

[Messofanego]

Deus Ex and Dishonored are dead. Publishers not likely to spend 100s of millions on these types of games for a third time after middling to disappointing sales.

Long live the immersive sim!

 

[StrappingYoungLance]

If they're working on GotG and supporting Crystal on Avengers...that honestly doesn't sound like they'd have much capacity for much else. As much as I'd love to see Eidos Montreal working on Deus Ex or a new IP don't be surprised to learn that they really are just working on Square's Marvel projects.

 

[Arex]

Out of 700 upwards of 100 of them are probably non devs employees (HR, support, finance, management, testers). Even then 700 isn't really a big number for 2 AAA games let alone 3. Maybe if it was last gen.

 

[Mirage]

This seems normal these days.

 

[Crazymoogle]

As it says in the OP tweet, that's a count for "Square-Enix studios in Montreal", not "Eidos Montreal". So what does that mean?

• Eidos Montreal (DXMD, Thief, SOTR, Avengers, etc.)
• Square-Enix Montreal (Hitman Go, etc)
• Eidos Sherbrooke (founded last year)

So no, it doesn't mean 700 people for one project. EM is by far the biggest part, and they expanded in 2019, but marvel is not the whole story I suspect.

 

[BigDes]

I just want my Mankind Divided sequel...

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I just don't see any way Deus Ex comes back any time soon

If Avengers is a success then all the devs will be stuck making content for that forever
If it fails then Square Enix will likely have to shutter the teams to save money.

 

[Necron]

I too want another Deus Ex...

That'll probably never happen at this rate.

 

[AndyVirus]

It's very possible they have a small team in pre-production on something else. Best case scenario would be Guardians 2022 and new project 2024.

 

[2CL4Mars]

That won´t be happening anytime soon.

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Yes it will

Yes it will

Yes it will

If I say it enough times it will happen.

 

[Dr. Ludwig]

Don't do this to yourself, OP.

A new Deus Ex is not happening anytime soon...

 

[Chivalry]

That's pretty normal for one AAA game, let alone two.

 

[SolidSnakex]

That's pretty normal for one AAA game, let alone two.

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Is it? I don't think any SIE studio is even that big.

 

[Deleted member 44371]

Squadron 42 has 650 employees and the game has been in development hell since 2011

 

[Sabretooth]

I am not expecting a new Deus Ex announcement before 2025. I've put it on moratorium in my mind.

 

[Vervain]

Given Square's massive expectations for that game, I wouldn't be surprised if there's a big number of Eidos Montreal devs on Avengerst. Like, more than you'd think.

 

[IHaveIce]

700 seems right for 2 AAA games.

I mean 343 had how many now working on Halo Infinite and the game had to be delayed? They were also in the 400-500 weren't they?

 

[Samiya]

lots of Avenger DLC GaaS.

 

[DaleCooper]

700 employee's =/= 700 devs

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When concerning superhero stuff, it's probably 80% marketing people...

 

[Tigel]

Well when I was working for Eidos Montréal as a dev, they had 3 teams: one working on Deus Ex HR, one on Thief and one on Tomb Raider multiplayer. That doesn't mean that they still have 3 teams, but it's not impossible.

 

[Deleted member 23475]

Bungie is what 1000+ employees so far and got only Destiny 2(1.5) in what 5 years?

 

[YuriLowell]

700 seems right for maybe two AAA games.

 

[Soapbox Killer]

Not thar they are the same thing but I wouldn't even start thinking about Deus Ex in a pre release Cyberpunk 2077 world.

 

[Donniewahlberg]

To echo some others, I would just assume they're all on avengers maintenance until we're told otherwise

 

[dimitri2401]

Deus Ex and Dishonored are dead. Publishers not likely to spend 100s of millions on these types of games for a third time after middling to disappointing sales.

Long live the immersive sim!

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You're breaking my heart. Let me hope, please! :D

 

[roly82]

Legacy of Kain remake

 

[Messofanego]

You're breaking my heart. Let me hope, please! :D

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For them to get dashed with the quickness? Nah, lower your expectations to rock bottom so you get surprised if they ever do make another one!

 

[Klyka]

Sounds about right for the weight of the IPs they are working on