MK11 is not an average game within the genre or even in general no matter how you spin it lol
but whatevs
but whatevs
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EDGE magazine #333 review scores (Days Gone, Mortal Kombat 11, World War Z and more)
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At the time that they were released many of the games in that list were either innovative or at the very least prime examples of their genre.
Latter yes (maybe), but innovative? That's being very very very loose with that word.
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I'd throw it the opposite way as well, people dismissing games or developers based on a numerical score. It is unfortunate the power scores have in the game industry, all around.
Innovative and 'prime example of their genre' are not the same thing at all.
They have the best writers and journalists in the entire industry despite hurting some gamers feelings with some 5's and 6's here and there in reviews.
Can you explain to people why you think a magazine that has survived since 1993 and is respected within the industry for its standards of journalism has a need to be Edgy, or are you just spouting bollocks?
They didn't even give the first one a 10. Dreams is the only remaining PS4 exclusive that has a chance to get a 10.
With that rebuttal in mind, I'd going to suggest that maybe referring to games EDGE has given a 10/10 isn't a great threshold on determining how Edge is receptive to innovative games. (Even given that the former description for their review scoreboard defined games that scored a 10 as "revolutionary.")
I'd take a random guess and assume that there are a greater quantity of innovative games Edge scored an "astounding" 9/10 (or even an "excellent" 8/10) than there are innovative games they've scored a "revolutionary" 10/10 score. With a list as small as the latter goes, you're going to end up splitting hairs on whether those games really are standalone innovative entries, or are just exemplary refinements or experiments of a formula already defined and/or explored by preceding games.
That is correct.
That is correct, too. It's a good score.
Days Gone was reviewed by Chris Schilling right? Nothing against him, but sometimes you can almost tell someone's not going to like something well ahead of any review. I believe he recently also gave The Division 2 a 6/10. Chris's tastes seem to often be more inclined towards Nintendo esque vibrant titles, as oppose to more grounded Western cinematic stuff. For Days Gone to impress Chris I'd imagine it'd either have to lean far heavier in to the narrative side of things, or have more Japanese esque zanyness or quirkyness in its gameplay or approach.
I noticed he finds it funny or perhaps even somewhat irritating that the sales success of Days Gone is as he adds"is, in part, an acknowledgement of the seeming pointlessness of critical reviews in the face of blanket marketing. And of people's inexplicable yet enduring affection for deeply mediocre open-world gam-I'M JUST KIDDING FOLKS"
He sort of touches on it, but it isn't just blanket marketing that skews things, but people's interest in and desire for this type of game. The user meta score for Days Gone is 8.1/10, its Amazon user review scores are 4.2/5 at both Amazon UK and Amazon US. Clearly this game is resonating with gaming consumers in a bigger way than it did with many critics, and I think part of that is the fact that your average consumer doesn't play the same volume of games as the average critic, and thus the same severity of complaints about the game being too generic, unimaginative or safe or whatever don't necessarily apply.
I noticed he finds it funny or perhaps even somewhat irritating that the sales success of Days Gone is as he adds"is, in part, an acknowledgement of the seeming pointlessness of critical reviews in the face of blanket marketing. And of people's inexplicable yet enduring affection for deeply mediocre open-world gam-I'M JUST KIDDING FOLKS"
He sort of touches on it, but it isn't just blanket marketing that skews things, but people's interest in and desire for this type of game. The user meta score for Days Gone is 8.1/10, its Amazon user review scores are 4.2/5 at both Amazon UK and Amazon US. Clearly this game is resonating with gaming consumers in a bigger way than it did with many critics, and I think part of that is the fact that your average consumer doesn't play the same volume of games as the average critic, and thus the same severity of complaints about the game being too generic, unimaginative or safe or whatever don't necessarily apply.
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My theory is that perhaps EDGE as an outlet has higher standards than the average #gamer and Days Gone is dull shit.
The Edge review doesn't go in on the grindiness of the krypt as much as they criticize the lack of zoning and a crossover game because of the antiquated use of a block button and dial-up combos.
Interesting. These are some complaints fighting game fans have over the series for years and considering how consistently low MK scores for Edge, I guess this angle is pretty important to them.
That was another point the review brought up that MK has had these same problems for years and they're worse now with some of what they claim are gimmicky mechanics like the x-Ray moves.
Ah, well I disagree with them, I like how NRS do fighting games and MK11 feels great IMO.
You guys need to relax. Edge is know for its wild reviews, so low scores for big games shouldn't be a surprise to you. The majority of Days Gone's reviews on Metacritic are positive, the fans love it, the game is good and it's overperforming sales wise. A sequel is practically confirmed.
The sames goes for Mortal Kombat while setting a new franchise record sales wise.
Edge is just one magazine with one review and one opinion for each game. That's it. You can find more on metacritic. Not everybody likes the same video games.
So fans can keep being happy and the same old posters from all the other Days Gone related threads can keep acting like 7/10 is the new 0.5/10.
The sames goes for Mortal Kombat while setting a new franchise record sales wise.
Edge is just one magazine with one review and one opinion for each game. That's it. You can find more on metacritic. Not everybody likes the same video games.
So fans can keep being happy and the same old posters from all the other Days Gone related threads can keep acting like 7/10 is the new 0.5/10.
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I like how all the sudden metacritic user reviews are all the sudden relevant again with Days Gone.
Also it's hilarious to see people lose it over a single review score, lol.
Also it's hilarious to see people lose it over a single review score, lol.
is that extract for real? wow...
i'm not discussing the score but that line has no space in a professional review even if it was "joke" (and we all know that is not a joke)
at least take example from the gamespot reviewer who save his hate boner for easy clicks on twitter.
It wasn't from the review, but his social media reaction to news of Days Gone strong sales.
Why should your opinion matter to me more than the reviewer's?
Also lol at "judging from people who have played the game". The reviewer happens to be one of those people too.
What exactly are those strong sales ? Other than UK physical sales and that it sold more than God of War in Japan.
Honestly I think this encapsulates the problem with most review outlets.
"7/10, would not recommend."
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The UK sales. But it does seem to have done well all over. UK/Europe, Japan and NPD.
Edge is more relevant than ever to me; away from the 'influencer/ sponsored advert bullshit and it gives me long-form writing about videogames. Long may it live.
And Days Gone has Edge 5 all over it (I thought it was heading for a 4, so it did well) but Edge reviews very often don't align with mine - to the point where many of my favourite games have been Edge 4/5/6s. An Edge 6 to me is 'check this one out!'
Imagine walking into a pub, going up to a full table and blaring 'IRRELEVANT!' through your pipe-horn like a shit Dalek just as you're doing here, how do you think that would go down? Would you be welcomed to pull up your wheels and keep going?
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both legit scores, i would also give Division 2 a 6, don´t even know where the high reviews came from, the game has massive(ha!) problems. and Days Gone can be anything from 5-9, depending on subjective taste. there is no outstanding thing to this game other than the hordes which are introduced too late into the story.
ding, we have a winner
I'd hazard a guess a nonsignificant number of the people who buy zombie games do in fact buy a large amount of other zombie games. Much like the people who buy yearly installments of CoD and FIFA the fact that it is safe and derivative is kind of the point, as these people are not interested in games as novel experiences.
Show me one person in this thread who went "oh MK got a 5 from Edge? Hard pass"
are there really "only zombie games gamer" though? i for one loved Zombie Army Trilogy but i didn´t ran out to buy all other zombie games to get my zombie fix or something like that. there are strictly CoD or FIFA gamers though that don´t play anything else than those games.
No I don't think there are zombie only gamers, but at least gamers who bought a number of zombie games already, but don't go "ugh zombies again" at the announcement of another one.
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exactly. a lot of reviews are 7+ and considered positive by metacritic, but then you read them and see the reviewer had a pretty low opinion of the game and didn't have a lot of fun with it, but then gave it a 7 anyway cuz 6 or lower implies it's just terrible.
yeah pretty much
I think this is what annoys people the most. Not that some website or magazine gave something a bad review but that people deliberately using it to dismiss something thats actually good.
You could always test that theory by playing it yourself. Personally, I dont like most open world games that arent RPGs. They are usually dull for me. Ubisoft games, Mad Max, RDR. Im enjoying Days Gone a lot more than those and it has some of the best non-scripted "open world moments" I've experienced.
- Riding along, get knocked off bike by wolves. Kill them. Attracts a few swarmers. Kill them. Large group comes over the hill. Leg it to a nearby bandit camp and let the swarm wipe out the enemies while you hide in a dumpster.
- Ride along. Find a group of people fighting off some swarmers. Stop to help kill them. Turns out they're bandits and attack you. Run to nearby cave as out of ammo. Find it contains a horde. Leave quickly! Step outside to find a bear has killed the last bandit. Horde engulfs and tears bear apart while I run to the bike and ride away.
Not to mention when you're sneaking through an abandoned town with bandits fighting off the swarmers, its pure The Last of Us.
Yes it has flaws, the first half of the game is very slow and the missions are basic until it kicks off later, I can understand people not liking it or games like it, but if people are interested in it, give a shot and dont be put off. When you dont fast travel everywhere you see how special the open world is. Days Gone is gonna get quite a few GOTY nominations from people here Im sure.
I'm surprised you typed all this hogwash without even pointing out the obvious that he worked at Official Nintendo Magazine for a while. That's much more solid basis for your tirade than an obvious out of context joke tweet y'know.
I always thought Edge used the whole numbered scale for reviews, where 1 is considered abysmal and 10 being outstanding, and 5 is simply average.
The score represents something that is serviceable, it's not bad, but at the same time it does not stand out from other titles in the genre. The idea that is getting 'ravaged' by the publication seems beyond dumb to me.
The score represents something that is serviceable, it's not bad, but at the same time it does not stand out from other titles in the genre. The idea that is getting 'ravaged' by the publication seems beyond dumb to me.
Because he played it at a mates house for, "a couple of hours", so that allows him to speak with authority on the game.
That is pretty ridiculous. The block button is pretty valuable and important in MK, and just because it's different from other FGs doesn't mean it's bad. Lack of zoning? I'm guessing they haven't played any of the top tiers. Perhaps they should have got someone who is actually experienced in fighting games to review the game.