Yeah the Costco food courts are always insanely busy and impossible to find seating. Costco probably loses money on their hot dogs so I'm not surprised they would try to push it as a member benefit now.
I mean, that depends on how you define exploitation, doesn't it?
Under capitalism, workers generate wealth for others. Some would consider that a form of exploitation. Even a "fair living wage," under capitalism, doesn't return all of the wealth generated by the worker back to the worker.
Put a Costco in Daytona Beach ffs, Im tired of second rate Sams or BJs. I want my dollhair churro and I aint driving to Orlando for it!
Weird how suddenly everyone loves capitalism when foodcourt style hotdogs are at stake.
IIRC correctly all the margins are in membership fees. Their model prices and times shipments and sales so there's no wasted inventory, but they barely make any profit on that. The board frequently complains about having to make the five dollar rotisserie chickens, but the guy insists they must keep making them because it increases membership visits.
Port Orange native here. I used to love going to the Sams on Beville when I was a kid, but I had no idea what I was missing out on with Costco. Even the shitty Costco in Hiroshima where I live is way better than Sams. And speaking of Costco in Japan, you already do have to be a member to go to the food court. Hiroshima is the only exception, since our food court is outside.
Yeah dude the membership applies to more than just the food court (and you know that), but keep waving the corporate banner.Again, it is not Costco's job to be a hotdog and free food supplier to people in your scenario. They aren't a charity. They. Are. A. Membership. Club.
Can you use a US Costco membership in Japan? Last time I was in Hiroshima I wanted to go there, but I wasn't sure if it would work.
You ever meet anybody or interact with anybody homeless or on the verge of being homeless (utilities shut off, checking account overdrawn, landlord threatening eviction)? Some folks just literally want to spend their entire day in your store and to eat food for absolutely nothing because it's the only comfort they'll get. When I used to work at Starbucks, this homeless woman would come in and ask for an empty 8oz cup. I'd watch her go and pour half&half in there just to get some god damn calories. It's sad to see the corporate banners being waved around in defense of the profit margins of Costco hot dogs.
Yeah dude the membership applies to more than just the food court (and you know that), but keep waving the corporate banner.
Bro, you're bringing up an extreme situation as to why Costco should be obligated to sell their fucking hotdogs to non-members when they're a membership club, and when people can buy hotdogs at the fucking store for far less. And then you keep ratcheting up the story as to why people should be allowed to hang out all day and just eat their samples.Yeah dude the membership applies to more than just the food court (and you know that), but keep waving the corporate banner.
You hear that poor people? If it's not a soup kitchen or charity I guess you don't deserve anything. Late stage capitalism is awesome!Again, it is not Costco's job to be a hotdog supplier to people in your scenario. They aren't a charity. They. Are. A. Membership. Club.
Get the fuck out of here with this bullshit. That is clearly not what I said.You hear that poor people? If it's not a soup kitchen or charity I guess you don't deserve anything. Late stage capitalism is awesome!
Wouldn't that just mean the poor people would also have to pay more? Because they're not going to let members pay more than non-members.The ups and downs of capitalism aside, I have no problem allowing non-members access to the food.
I'd even pay a bit more if it meant letting poor people get grub.
Ok dude, whatever. We're just gonna keep spinning the wheels on this topic and I see exactly where you stand on this and we're both unwilling to budge. Take it easy out there.Bro, you're bringing up an extreme situation as to why Costco should be obligated to sell their fucking hotdogs to non-members when they're a membership club, and when people can buy hotdogs at the fucking store for far less. And then you keep ratcheting up the story as to why people should be allowed to hang out all day and just eat their samples.
You seem to be mistaking Costco with something it's not.
You hear that poor people? If it's not a soup kitchen or charity I guess you don't deserve anything. Late stage capitalism is awesome!
We obviously need to just have everyone disclose their total net worth before being allowed to comment on anything. When you develop the tech, sell it, sorry GIVE it to Costco so they can use it to determine if someone deserves the ability to purchase a $1.50 hot dog without having a membership.You're talking to someone that whines in the stock market thread, and is over joyed by Biden victories. They literally could not give a shit about actual poor people.
IIRC correctly all the margins are in membership fees. Their model prices and times shipments and sales so there's no wasted inventory, but they barely make any profit on that. The board frequently complains about having to make the five dollar rotisserie chickens, but the guy insists they must keep making them because it increases membership visits.
Right, saying that a membership club should be allowed to require memberships, and pointing out the obvious that people can get more food for much less elsewhere is not giving a shit about poor people.You're talking to someone that whines in the stock market thread, and is over joyed by Biden victories. They literally could not give a shit about actual poor people.
We obviously need to just have everyone disclose their total net worth before being allowed to comment on anything. When you develop the tech, sell it, sorry GIVE it to Costco so they can use it to determine if someone deserves the ability to purchase a $1.50 hot dog without having a membership.
Ok dude, whatever. We're just gonna keep spinning the wheels on this topic and I see exactly where you stand on this and we're both unwilling to budge. Take it easy out there.
I don't think that's actually the case for anyone. There's a world of people eating terrible food to get by because they are poor and live in a food desert, but Costco wouldn't be caught dead building a store in poor neighborhoods. That's partly what makes the argument seem so disingenuous -- "actual poor people" wouldn't have regular access to Costco hot dogs anyhow.It's just really fucked up that things are so bad that access to Costco hotdogs is considered a vital lifeline for some people.
More like News at 11: The most expensive to make foods around, hotdogs and pizza, are putting Costco out of business. They had no choice but to exclude the unprofitable layabouts, and that's objectively a good thing™.News at 11: Costco hates poor people
You realize Costco employees have some of the best benefits and pay for their jobs right? That they actually close on holidays so their employees can be with their families.
It is correct that the membership fees are the profit center for the whole company.
That said, I wouldn't at all assume that they lose money by selling a hot dog for $1.50 to a non-member, as so many people in this thread are basing their argument around. As many of those same people have also described, those same hot dogs are sold in multipacks in the store for a much lower price, after all. It's the same thing with the pizza: some people are arguing that selling their pizza to non-members is creating some sort of massive money sink that Costco is addressing, while others are claiming that this change is no big deal since their pizza is not that much cheaper than a pizza from any other restaurant. I have difficulty squaring those two perspectives.
To me this move seems more intended to encourage new memberships rather than prevent some sort of unsustainable loss.
http://www.costcoconnection.com/connection/200903?pg=23#pg23
This is what they say about it.
I've been going to Costco for almost 20 years, never used the food court once. It honestly doesn't look all that appealing to me. Where I live there's no shortage of great pizza or hot dogs, if I'm in the mood for those, and I've just never had the urge to try any of it out before/after doing some shopping.
Can you use a US Costco membership in Japan? Last time I was in Hiroshima I wanted to go there, but I wasn't sure if it would work.
You're missing out.http://www.costcoconnection.com/connection/200903?pg=23#pg23
This is what they say about it.
I've been going to Costco for almost 20 years, never used the food court once. It honestly doesn't look all that appealing to me. Where I live there's no shortage of great pizza or hot dogs, if I'm in the mood for those, and I've just never had the urge to try any of it out before/after doing some shopping.
I totally get that. I wish the closest one to me had gas.For me it's a time issue, I like to gas up when I'm running errands, usually takes me 5 minutes to get in and out. Since it's in the same complex, it's a time saver for me.
Did you know poor people can drive to places outside of their neighborhood?I don't think that's actually the case for anyone. There's a world of people eating terrible food to get by because they are poor and live in a food desert, but Costco wouldn't be caught dead building a store in poor neighborhoods. That's partly what makes the argument seem so disingenuous -- "actual poor people" wouldn't have regular access to Costco hot dogs anyhow.
You realize Costco employees have some of the best benefits and pay for their jobs right? That they actually close on holidays so their employees can be with their families.
Yours doesn't have gas? The main one I go to is one of the rare ones with propane, and I believe the only one with a carwash. lol
Or, hear me out, we let poor people continue to have access to a dirt cheap meal in a temperature-regulated store. And maybe the owner worth $2 billion has his net worth drop by a tiny fraction. And maybe we don't use the corporate tools that they love us to use (e.g. "think of the workers" and other middle vs lower class rhetoric).
lmao seeing his thread and now this.
Except that a great many impoverished citizens don't have cars - it's why people complain about food deserts. Not to mention that if you're driving to out to the suburbs where Costco tends to put their stores, that kinda defeats the purpose of buying the cheap hot dog in the first place.Did you know poor people can drive to places outside of their neighborhood?
Speaking of Costco food court I'm still pissed they got rid of the Pepperoni pizza here in Japan at the food court. Replaced with a crappy margherita. So now the pizza options are cheese, margherita and deluxe. Whats the point of having two cheese pizzas? Only difference is margherita seems to have less cheese with some green bits thrown on.