I think one of the reasons that gamers are so quick to say "downgrade!" at everything is that they don't understand different lighting conditions are not all equally flattering, yet are technically of the exact same quality.
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We are, but no one's stepping up and offering to make it yet...
Not it!
You are an insult to sports! Great stream. And watching Huber play Shenmue III alongside Brad is pretty awesome as well (live right now!). Some really good streams lately.
Huber finally getting to play Shenmue III (post-E3) and just bursting with happiness. Good times.
That Shenmue stream was so friggin' fun. The Huber and Brad chemistry was the perfect way to experience that demo.
Ben's aggressive response to the Link's Awakening L&R on the podcast sucks. The question was about the value proposition of remakes that have technical issues, not dissing the game as a whole. First party Nintendo games usually have an expected level of polish, so it's perfectly acceptable to be skeptical of one that does not.
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And this is probably literally the first 2D Zelda game with performance issues. That sucks. It's especially jarring with this type of game.
Kyle streaming an empty screen as he works on secret things for the Gameboy game is the final frontier of streamed content
Do we really need a new OT?
New ot is always annoying.
Gotta load that fucking Mega first post for a few days till it hits page 2.
I Never see the point.
New ot is always annoying.
Gotta load that fucking Mega first post for a few days till it hits page 2.
I Never see the point.
Yup Thursday is truly amazing, Damn Jones got so lucky with Miltank and should of gotten Swept. I and chat was patiently waiting for that Milk Drink but didn't happened T_T
I feel like if you listen to the whole discussion I try to show sympathy toward that perspective and the conversation evolves throughout. My initial reaction was not needing to feel guilt over something you're enjoying, but it's a perfectly valid thing to criticize. Of course games should be technically sound, I just don't think the issues lined up with the gravity presented in the question which I think is fair. Is the person "part of the problem" for enjoying a remake that is largely great? No.
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Just stated the pokemon stream.
not surprised the allies didn't recognize it was the Goku vs Piccolo punch from dragonball,
but almost no one in chat knew either. They all said gohan vs cell heh
I didn't even watch OG dragonball much, but instantly knew. Is it's not as iconic as I thought....hm
not surprised the allies didn't recognize it was the Goku vs Piccolo punch from dragonball,
but almost no one in chat knew either. They all said gohan vs cell heh
I didn't even watch OG dragonball much, but instantly knew. Is it's not as iconic as I thought....hm
'Aggressive' is a strong word lol. I didn't really see it as an agressive response.
Anyway, personally i bought the game for 60$ myself and am enjoying it soooo much. The framerate problems are there but not really stopping my enjoyment (for me anyway).
And i understand Ben's point of view, if you enjoy it so much, the value is there, no need to question your purchase.
I personally regret paying 60$ for RDR2 and i dont regret it one bit for Link's Awakening.
Anyway, personally i bought the game for 60$ myself and am enjoying it soooo much. The framerate problems are there but not really stopping my enjoyment (for me anyway).
And i understand Ben's point of view, if you enjoy it so much, the value is there, no need to question your purchase.
I personally regret paying 60$ for RDR2 and i dont regret it one bit for Link's Awakening.
Same here, I was just waiting for the moment of the Milk Drink happening, but it just didn't. It brought me, and by the look of it, many others, a lot of pain in my playthrough. Jones is sure a lucky guy :P
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Are there any plans, of the Allies playing through Kyle's Game ?
This post made me realise I regret the $40 AUD I spent on Monster Hunter World more than I did the $70 AUD on Link's Awakening.
Thanks. That's great! I couldn't really watch these streams, but whenever I took a sneak peek, everything looked fantastic. Can't wait.
I suggest you watch the latest one. He played the game himself several times to find bugs and stuff. It was pretty fun. (Although some parts has to be skipped)
Game pricing and perceived value is a super interesting topic that will always be around. I can admit that I've passed on Links Awakening for now because of the 2 reasons listed in this weeks L&R. 60 USD is 80 CAD and it's not like we all make 25% more money up here to compensate for that. Hearing this new version , faithfully great though it may be , has a number of odd technical issues combined with the pricetag put me away from "must own" to "will wait for a patch + a time when I feel like powering through it".
I'm in my 30's so obviously I had a gameboy as a kid and I played through the entirety of LA twice back then. Bought it and finished it a third time on the gameboy color too. More recently I even had a playthrough going on the 3DS that I kind of petered out on. Point is I've played the game lots of times over the years and a fresh coat of paint with some QOL changes just isn't appealing at 80$ for me. I've seen the footage of how the game handles it's framerate and it looks like something fixable so , at the very least, waiting until that's working correctly is my own choice.
Do I feel others are foolish to support this game ? naw man. It really is a great Zelda game, perhaps one of the best 2D entries in fact. It was pretty much a flawless gameboy game in 1993 and based on reviews time has been pretty kind to it's oldschool mechanics. It's not like Nintendo marketed it as a new breath of the wild , it's "a beautiful remake of the game boy classic". It probably could have been released for 40 USD , hell I'd have bought it for that price without thinking but on the flipside - if you want a game and are having fun with it , the price shouldn't really be a factor.
I'm in my 30's so obviously I had a gameboy as a kid and I played through the entirety of LA twice back then. Bought it and finished it a third time on the gameboy color too. More recently I even had a playthrough going on the 3DS that I kind of petered out on. Point is I've played the game lots of times over the years and a fresh coat of paint with some QOL changes just isn't appealing at 80$ for me. I've seen the footage of how the game handles it's framerate and it looks like something fixable so , at the very least, waiting until that's working correctly is my own choice.
Do I feel others are foolish to support this game ? naw man. It really is a great Zelda game, perhaps one of the best 2D entries in fact. It was pretty much a flawless gameboy game in 1993 and based on reviews time has been pretty kind to it's oldschool mechanics. It's not like Nintendo marketed it as a new breath of the wild , it's "a beautiful remake of the game boy classic". It probably could have been released for 40 USD , hell I'd have bought it for that price without thinking but on the flipside - if you want a game and are having fun with it , the price shouldn't really be a factor.
I agree with most of what Ben said, to be honest (though I think he initially may have misunderstood the question a little). However, hearing that Link's Awakening has those technical problems REALLY bums me out. I think it is sorta inexcusable, as this clearly isn't a game pushing the boundaries of the Switch. I think Link's Awakening is the best Zelda game ever made. I want to be able to point to the Switch version and advocate for it as vehemently as I can. It is a kick in the teeth that Nintendo didn't make sure that it was in perfect shape when it shipped. Nintendo is known for their polish. This shouldn't have happened. Now the whole release has been marred to some degree. Which, once again, fucking sucks.
So, is it an amazing game that everyone should buy? Absolutely. But I can understand someone wanting Nintendo to be held responsible for releasing such a wonderful game in a diminished state. Is buying it day one, despite all its problems, sending Nintendo the wrong message? It may be...
So, is it an amazing game that everyone should buy? Absolutely. But I can understand someone wanting Nintendo to be held responsible for releasing such a wonderful game in a diminished state. Is buying it day one, despite all its problems, sending Nintendo the wrong message? It may be...
Buying Link's Awakening despite frame rate issues isn't sending Nintendo or the industry a message that hasn't been sent a hundred times already.
This is so good. Well done. Feels like it'd fit in pretty well with Kyle's bonkers universe.
I've loved seeing your art at the end of the streams, but I didn't know you were turning it into a game. Super cool. Thanks for sharing.
Watching this week's Mana Day is a special kind of fun. I remember when GT got moved into the windowless closet by Defy and Blood posted to calm our "Oh no, they're all gonna get fired soon!" panic. I assumed it was just him putting on a brave face to the public, but listening to the conversation with Ben and Brad he really had different perceptions of the situation due to their different rooming arrangment.
Even if Link's Awakening remake didn't have technical issues, a $60 remake of a fairly short Zelda game that is mostly qol improvements doesn't interest me.
I personally only try to buy games on sale, which means I never have a backlog of Switch games since they only have like 2 good sales a year, if that. There's no way I'm paying a full $60 for LA, though I do plan on getting it eventually. I have enough games on other systems that I never have a lack of things to play, so I'm in no rush to experience it right now.
When the original Links Awakening was probably $30 back in the day due to that being how much GameBoy games were, it kinda makes its new remake price even more ridiculous. The Switch is a console sure, but this is the very definition of a handheld game, so going full whack and charging AAA price is pretty nuts. Losing the definition of 'console game' and 'handheld game' just allowed Nintendo to start going nuts with prices. When you start comparing it to Dark Souls Remastered costing $40 and other such similar titles being priced far saner on the system, it really does just become a Zelda Tax and Nintendo over-pricing situation.
Really enjoyed the Christmas Morning vibes of the Brad and Huber Shenmue stream.
Really enjoyed the Christmas Morning vibes of the Brad and Huber Shenmue stream.
I don't mind the price, but it is real sad that a game which didn't have framerate trouble on (relatively) potato level hardware from the 1980s has framerate trouble on Switch.
Obviously they've prioritised graphics, and done a great job of that, but first party Nintendo stuff is generally pretty good with framerates. It's a little disappointing.
Hopefully it gets patched.
Obviously they've prioritised graphics, and done a great job of that, but first party Nintendo stuff is generally pretty good with framerates. It's a little disappointing.
Hopefully it gets patched.
Catching up on the final Game Boy stream, and I gotta give a shout out to EarthPainting - Danielle Gaiden is sick!! Amazing job!
Oh hey! Somehow didn't see the alert for this. There's no rush on a new OT, so it'd be great if you could volunteer. I'll send you a PM.
I know Kyle is forcing Jones to play his game on stream because he's basically making the "anti-Jones" game, but I have a sneaking suspicion that Brandon isn't going to be as much of an easy mark as Kyle believes. I'm VERY curious to see if Jones plays into Kyle's expectations by completely undercutting them.
Too bad I'll be on a plane during the stream... womp womp.
Too bad I'll be on a plane during the stream... womp womp.
Don't think anyone noticed that Chrono Trigger end screen at the end. That was sick. What if the DCMMBYIAYM is just another dimension in that universe?? 🤔
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