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Easy Allies |OT2| Love & Reset
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Can I just say I am so surprised they got to God of War before either BOTW or Persona 5 lol.
When do we know which of GoW or Portal they voted in?
When do we know which of GoW or Portal they voted in?
I think the allies were really pushing to get Bloodborne in this time around. It almost got in twice (?), so it just needed a set of games which wouldn't eat its lunch. Watching everyone shocked that Deus Ex got banned, you can see that they love that game, but it was clearly a list of the top three-to-four games and not much else to rise. I think we're going to see Kyle pitch Link's Awakening again later in the year, but his presentation style which helped Tetris win last time was unable to get past the GoW hype and Portal delight.
It might, and that's perfectly fine. My concern is that we're less than a year out of the game's release and weeks after it won GOTY for a number of outlets; it still has recency hype around it. I feel that if GoW wins this time around, there's a perfect opening to just submit the previous year's GOTY to the first HOG show of the next year and very possibly get it in. Will God of War 2018 be remembered as a Great two, three, five years down the line? Very likely. It just opens up potential focus on games that are riding the hype train too close to release rather than being legitimately Great. It also potentially turns HOG into another GOTY discussion. But I'm rambling and it is just for fun after all! :P
Whatever happens, it is very likely GoW, if it fails here, will get in next time.
It might, and that's perfectly fine. My concern is that we're less than a year out of the game's release and weeks after it won GOTY for a number of outlets; it still has recency hype around it. I feel that if GoW wins this time around, there's a perfect opening to just submit the previous year's GOTY to the first HOG show of the next year and very possibly get it in. Will God of War 2018 be remembered as a Great two, three, five years down the line? Very likely. It just opens up potential focus on games that are riding the hype train too close to release rather than being legitimately Great. It also potentially turns HOG into another GOTY discussion. But I'm rambling and it is just for fun after all! :P
Whatever happens, it is very likely GoW, if it fails here, will get in next time.
Kyle would've come after P5 too much and I highly doubt anyone besides Ben, Huber, or Brad would give it votes lol. BotW probably would've had a good chance.
Also, poll says a week, so next group stream.
It's a bit in a bit. If Pro Strats ended though, I wouldn't miss it.
Yeah, for me Portal is a timeless game and has stood the test of time and it's still amazing. God of War has not had that luxury and as such, despite how good it is, does not qualify on that alone.
There's a reason why Hall of Fames usually have a time limit on them, because recency bias is real.
There's a reason why Hall of Fames usually have a time limit on them, because recency bias is real.
I was under the impression everyone loves P5! Haha.
As for BotW I guess they're way too busy working their way through the older games to bring it up yet
Yeah, seems like they should do at least a four-hour thing so they can play a little Monopoly to christen the space proper.
In order to be considered for the rock and roll hall of fame it has to be 25 years since your first album was released. To get into the pro football hall of fame you have to be retired for 5 years. It's important to take your time and really consider if something is worthy of being called "one of the greats." I looked back at what games GT gave gotys to out of curiosity to see if I thought they were HOG worthy. Twilight princess, GTA 4 and uncharted 3 all stood out to me as games that were all very well received but do not stand the test of time. GTA 4 is especially hard to go back to.
I'm not saying that god of war does not deserve a spot in the HOG, I'm saying that we should wait and see how we feel about it in 2 years.
I'm not saying that god of war does not deserve a spot in the HOG, I'm saying that we should wait and see how we feel about it in 2 years.
Duuude, I'm waiting for the day.
For the day he brings it but it gets no attention for some reason. :sadface:
Completely agree. I brought it up on the last Cup of Jones, and Jones brought up his reasoning for it, but I still completely disagree and think it's bizarre.
It is a bit weird (as they're so inclined to do this from time to time)
But the allies (particularly Jones and Ian) era so overworked with studio stuff that I think it's ok that they don't have to do extra stuff lol
After all the work I'm sure they're doing to get the studio up & operating, I'm cool with it not being a super mega stream to celebrate. There's also separate vids like EZU that'll probably happen to highlight it more.
Man, that potential EZU should be good.
Man, that potential EZU should be good.
Not letting a game in because of recency bias is as stupid as not letting a game in because of nostalgia, and pretty much all of the HoG inductees are nostalgia picks (though they are great games still). Hell, if BoTW was brought in I'm pretty sure it would have gotten into the HoG, and it's only a year older.
C'mon, they're both just ONE game. There is no "career" aspect. Comparing it to a real life Hall of Fame doesn't make much sense.
I'm fine with Portal getting in (although it's the second best Portal game, in my opinion), but introducing some rule that we should artificially marinate on a game doesn't make much sense when it passed their vote. I mean, besides Bloodborne, we don't have a game that is less than 15ish years old and zero western games (either Portal or God of War will break that streak). It's long past due they add some new blood to the hallowed Hall.
I'll say as a viewer it's just less exciting to have GOTY and HOG be so close together and for the same game to (potentially) "win" both. I'd like for a 2 year rule to exist just for the entertainment factor. If the same thing happens next year it's ~12 hours of streaming that are predictable months ahead of time.
Half the allies normally nominate games that don't really have a chance of winning (which isn't an insult- it's entertaining, has introduced me to great games and shows off their individual tastes), nominating a game they all agreed was great a week or two prior is a winning strategy.
Half the allies normally nominate games that don't really have a chance of winning (which isn't an insult- it's entertaining, has introduced me to great games and shows off their individual tastes), nominating a game they all agreed was great a week or two prior is a winning strategy.
Weren't the Allies supposed to stream a playthrough of their HoG winners a year after they were inducted? They did MGS on Easy Livin', and Bloodworth streamed Super Metroid, but I think they dropped the ball on this otherwise.
Edit: Found Damiani doing a "One of the Greats" stream VoD for Mario 64. That still leaves Bloodworth needing to stream Street Fighter II, Ian streaming Symphony of the Night and Damiani playing Ocarina of Time once again, as well as Brad and Kyle streaming Chrono Trigger and Pokémon Red/Blue respectively.
Edit: Found Damiani doing a "One of the Greats" stream VoD for Mario 64. That still leaves Bloodworth needing to stream Street Fighter II, Ian streaming Symphony of the Night and Damiani playing Ocarina of Time once again, as well as Brad and Kyle streaming Chrono Trigger and Pokémon Red/Blue respectively.
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I know they prepared a few vids but i am baffled they are not doing a big ass launch stream marathon for the studio. It was asked many times on CoJ a few months ago when the studio was a lock and Jones answered with 'Of Course' , 'Yes we're gonna do all that!' etc.
Cause unless they wanna keep it secret or something, the last vibe i got is that its gonna be a usual 2-3h stream with 2-3 vids about the studio launch in between.
Maybe i missed something. I'm also surprised its not been announced anywhere as a Patreon post, tweet etc. but i guess they have a lot of work right now
Cause unless they wanna keep it secret or something, the last vibe i got is that its gonna be a usual 2-3h stream with 2-3 vids about the studio launch in between.
Maybe i missed something. I'm also surprised its not been announced anywhere as a Patreon post, tweet etc. but i guess they have a lot of work right now
I legit wonder how quickly we'll see someone take up the challenge and make a "Goodbye Garage" montage to this. If I know this community, it's probably exporting from Premiere as we speak.
I get the impression they are busting their asses off to get it finished TBH. It'll probably be a longer stream than usual but I wouldn't expect them to do a 12 hour marathon or anything.
Yes they did, at least it says the info in the youtube info section.
Not so related question to EZA. Anyone know how Shane's site is doing? Last I heard he to make a minimum amount or shut up shop.
Still going, still not hitting that amount and the last I saw of him was being salty to the EZA sponser Fantasy Critic like he invented the idea of fantasy drafts for games or something.
Not that great. His Patreon ( https://www.patreon.com/SIFTD ) is $4,232 of $6,000 per month at the moment, and $6,000 is "the rock bottom amount SIFTD needs per month to stay in business.".
Good review, surprised he didn't like the story much.
Seemed like most non hardcores like it while hardcores were expecting much more.
I can't believe someone even thought it was a good idea to make a case for God of War in the HoG, among Street Fighter II, Tetris, Super Mario 64, games that defined eras, while God of war is none of that: it's too fresh so we don't know how well it will age, it technically brought nothing new, artistically it is very similar to other Sony exclusives (while Portal has its own visual identity) and it has flaws.
To be fair i've thoughts about Bloodborne too, it feels an intruder on that list, but it was probably only a matter of time that the Allies started to vote for their favourite games instead of voting for the best games, so yeah yesterday they ruined HoG a little for me. It is probably going to be worse from now on since they will keep bringing up some new AAA release, only because it's the game of the year.
To be fair i've thoughts about Bloodborne too, it feels an intruder on that list, but it was probably only a matter of time that the Allies started to vote for their favourite games instead of voting for the best games, so yeah yesterday they ruined HoG a little for me. It is probably going to be worse from now on since they will keep bringing up some new AAA release, only because it's the game of the year.
I think they are getting by (or at least trying to) with Twitch Prime subs next to their patreon. I am a patron of SIFTD as well because I always enjoyed Pach Attack, but it's honestly the only content of SIFTD I check. I would use the site itself a lot more if it had rss feeds. My RSS reader is actually the only way I usually check newswebsites.
So I guess they are scraping by. I liked Shane from what I have seen on GT (I guess only on Invisible Walls), but it's a bit sad if he was indeed complaining about Fantasy Critic. He should have created that website himself then. I will probably keep supporting them through patreon, but if they stop doing the Pachter thing, there isn't a lot for me any more either (I just don't have the time to watch their podcast, otherwise I probably would).
I'm very impressed by the rate of new subscribers on the EZA youtube channel. The last couple of days have been between 300 - 450 per day but even in quiet periods the rate of new subs is over 100 per day consistently. As a comparison I checked Giant Bomb and their rate of new subs is much less, usually half of EZA's daily uptick.
Bring back backdoor shady deals long enough for Don to betray Kyle and for Mega Man Legends to be banned. Then we can get rid of them again.
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Backdoor shady deals and every ally having a cursed werehog chip which confers -1 to the game they give it to. I want to see some big betrayals
I agree that HoG doesn't have convoluted enough rules and systems. Anti-chips are a good start, but it could be taken way further. Maybe you can spend some of the werehogs of your own game on buying a randomised power-up. Something like a shield, the ability to vote on your own game, anti-chips, or earning one random game 5 bonus points, swapping the contents of one game's votes for another. Basically Mario Party nonsense. Maybe also something that can spice up some of the softball questions and answers. Some audience participation werehogs would also be good.
Maybe also something to prevent the same person from bringing the same game over and over again. The Zero Votes thing is supposed to prevent that, but it doesn't really do its job well enough. Bloodborne and Mega Man Legends popped up a little too often already, and the presentations got worse each time, I. Like maybe an additional rule that prevents someone from bringing a game back if they were the last person who brought it the last time. If it's a worthy game, someone else will bring it anyway.
Maybe also something to prevent the same person from bringing the same game over and over again. The Zero Votes thing is supposed to prevent that, but it doesn't really do its job well enough. Bloodborne and Mega Man Legends popped up a little too often already, and the presentations got worse each time, I. Like maybe an additional rule that prevents someone from bringing a game back if they were the last person who brought it the last time. If it's a worthy game, someone else will bring it anyway.
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