Good thing there are other methods to play BF2 online again. Fan servers are up and ranking.
No kidding ?!
Good thing there are other methods to play BF2 online again. Fan servers are up and ranking.
EA: Hey Valve, if you add support for EA Access we'll come back to SteamI wonder what kind of stuff Valve had to agree to for this deal to happen?
it's a shame they couldn't make Origin Premier happen — Steam really needs a monthly service.
yeah did it :D This is much better
As someone who had their antivirus completely messed up by Securom back in the day, I'm especially iffy about EA software running additional programs in the background. In any case running Origin is useless for a game bought on Steam, there is absolutely no need for such bloating.I'm also puzzled by why people even care about the number of additional programs a game starts when you launch it. Would it be better if such programs would start in a silent mode, with no windows appearing? Most games actually do this, even before we start looking at the numbers of libraries most programs are loading these days.
"At the core, we are game makers, and our aspiration is to connect as many people as we can to the great games that we built and make it as frictionless as possible for them to do that," explained Mike Blank, senior vice president at EA. "So with more players playing more games and more platforms, frankly, we want to be where the players are." In EA's case, that means Steam.
Despite the fact that Steam and Origin are PC launchers that run on the same platform, EA is effectively treating the two storefronts as totally separate platforms. For example, if you've purchased EA games in the last eight years on Origin, there won't be any way to transfer those purchases to Steam — even if they're rereleased there.
That split also applies to EA Access on Steam, which is explicitly not the same thing as EA's Origin Access subscription service that it offers through Origin. As the name suggests, EA Access on Steam will apparently be similar to EA's console subscription services, as opposed to the larger catalog on Origin Access.
I highly doubt either of them are really scared of Epic. Origin could be underperforming, but I think that's a red herring. EA's tactics are changing. Look how heavily they're pushing their subscription service in this announcement. That's what this is about. They want as many subscribers as they can get.Is Origin not making EA as much money as they thought it would, or are Valve and EA so scared of the competition from the Epic Game Store that they decided to partner up?
Is my existing EA/Origin library going to be available on Steam?
Nope.
Is Origin not making EA as much money as they thought it would, or are Valve and EA so scared of the competition from the Epic Game Store that they decided to partner up?
"At the core, we are game makers, and our aspiration is to connect as many people as we can to the great games that we built and make it as frictionless as possible for them to do that," explained Mike Blank, senior vice president at EA. "So with more players playing more games and more platforms, frankly, we want to be where the players are."
No point getting EA Access if you already have Origin Access. Origin Access seems superior besides the fact the games aren't Steam games.How do I see EA Access on steam? I already have it on origin because its a pretty damn good service. Also I'm excited for games like Battlefield 5 and Apex to be on steam, BFV especially with updates if they keep improving it by next year can get a real shot in the arm with the new audience attracted through steam.
This is a quote direct from EA:
I'd say this makes it pretty clear that EA wanted a bigger audience for their games.
Community guy for SW games said JFO at least will have Steam achievements but not at launch.Hope they implement steam achievements into the games they add. I'm not even someone who goes out of my way to get achievements, but it bothers me when they aren't there for reasons I don't fully understand.
Despite the fact that Steam and Origin are PC launchers that run on the same platform, EA is effectively treating the two storefronts as totally separate platforms. For example, if you've purchased EA games in the last eight years on Origin, there won't be any way to transfer those purchases to Steam — even if they're rereleased there.
Got a link to that?Community guy for SW games said JFO at least will have Steam achievements but not at launch.
Oh, he is the same guy of this tweet;
Mass effect 3 + dlc when?
If ME3 comes to steam will the multiplayer community be revived for a bit?
Not a small thing at all. It is huge news for people who prefer Steam, which is most people.
I get that it's a small thing to you. But some people actually really appreciate having all of their games in one place and not splintering their friends lists across half a dozen clients. IMO you may not get it but surely you can respect the people that do.[
I don't know. Having been a 1-console-user for most of my gaming years and having experienced actual exclusive content and being denied it due to being on Playstation, this seems to me a pseudo-problem where one has to choose between two different stores on the same platform.
EA shut off the servers for BF2 a while ago, didn't they? I doubt they'll bring it back.
"Since the time we removed our games from Steam, there's been this dramatic increase in the number of gaming services, which you would think would be really good for players. But I think in many cases, it's the exact opposite. It creates more difficulty for players, and providing player choice -- from my perspective and speaking on behalf of EA -- is really critical. It's an opportunity to make it possible for people to play where they want, to reduce that fragmentation and make it more frictionless... Reducing that fragmentation is really important. It's the most player-first thing we can do."
"We want to make the experience for players who want to play their games on Steam or Origin as frictionless as possible, so we're working towards connecting our accounts together as well as enabling players to play together across both Steam and Origin so they can play the games with the people they want to play with regardless of which platform they play on," Blank says.
Nah, EA had nothing to do with that. BF2 used GameSpy for its multiplayer services (like many other non-Steam games did).EA shut off the servers for BF2 a while ago, didn't they? I doubt they'll bring it back.
I don't know. Having been a 1-console-user for most of my gaming years and having experienced actual exclusive content and being denied it due to being on Playstation, this seems to me a pseudo-problem where one has to choose between two different stores on the same platform.
I don't know. Having been a 1-console-user for most of my gaming years and having experienced actual exclusive content and being denied it due to being on Playstation, this seems to me a pseudo-problem where one has to choose between two different stores on the same platform.
It has been explicitly stated that this will not happen.Ideally this would allow us to migrate our existing origin library's over to steam if we want to and have them put legacy titles on there too but I assume this isn't going to work like that is it?
I read up on it but I can dream.
From gamesindustry:
More here:
It seems that they want to avoid using the origin client through Steam so maybe, in the future, there will be only a log in required, like the xbox live integration with Steam.
Are people talking at cross purposes because there are two games on Steam called Battlefront 2?
Read this, it's a really good article.
Seems like EA did an absolute 180° on their perception of walled-gardens. We should re-brand them to AE.I especially like that part:
"Since the time we removed our games from Steam, there's been this dramatic increase in the number of gaming services, which you would think would be really good for players. But I think in many cases, it's the exact opposite. It creates more difficulty for players, and providing player choice -- from my perspective and speaking on behalf of EA -- is really critical. It's an opportunity to make it possible for people to play where they want, to reduce that fragmentation and make it more frictionless... Reducing that fragmentation is really important. It's the most player-first thing we can do."
Interesting.
Apex Legends won't need Origin to open, when it releases on Steam. So the need for Origin is on a game-by-game basis, it seems.
Wonder how crossprogression/crossplay will work.
That is a great interview that fills me with hope for the future of EA and gaming in general. It's wonderful hearing the company talking about wanting to reduce friction, support customer choice and encourage openness.
Yeah, that's a very interesting wrinkle, since I had assumed that half the point of this deal was to get more people installing Origin. I suppose with Apex Legends, that's kinda redundant (since it's already free-to-play), but it does make me wonder whether there's a set policy on Steam versions using Origin or if the only reason Fallen Order uses Origin is because switching to Steamworks a fortnight before release is a fine way to make a buggy mess. (insert EGS joke here)
Apex Legends won't need Origin to open, when it releases on Steam. So the need for Origin is on a game-by-game basis, it seems.
Wonder how crossprogression/crossplay will work.
Read this, it's a really good article.
He is more certain that third-party games included in Origin Access -- titles like Batman: Arkham Asylum or Darksiders III -- won't be included. And while subscriptions to either EA Access on Steam or Origin Access won't confer users the ability to use the other, EA is working on some integrations between the two.