The Switch is a 1st party box but I refuse to believe the bolded.
It's 2020.
Not happening unless Nintendo funds it.
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EA statement about Switch from their Q3 investor call
- Thread starter Naga
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Not happening unless Nintendo funds it.
One confirmed/released LA Noire port isn't anything when you have a large and successful multi-gen library like theirs. The system has been out since 2017 and that is all we have from them.
I'm sorry but you trying to shoehorn selective evidence into an argument that just doesn't work. You mentioned Capcom in the previous post and recently in their financial earning they highlighted their growth in revenue due to some key titles like Monster Hunter and RE2, none of which are on the Switch. T2 brings one title to the Switch but leaves out several major ones. There are some great 3rd party games on the Switch, but a whole lot of them are not on the Switch and that's ok because Nintendo's business model is different than Sony and Microsoft.
The point really is publishers are supporting Switch but selectively, just like EA is doing.
It's based on the Wikipedia page (if you don't count Mario + Rabbids). The problem is that you can't find concrete sales data from anywhere else other than Japan. So even if the best selling third-party title isn't Minecraft, we still have no idea unless the publisher announce it themselves. There are plenty of third-party million sellers on the Switch that haven't been announced, and has only been vaguely mentioned in Nintendo's reports.
2 games don't make a strong argument. There's a ton of games on Switch, but there's also another ton that's not. EA isn't a special case.
This is absolute gold. Nintendo should strangle their biggest IP in the hopes that maybe possibly EA might give them a second glance? Amazing business acumen!
GTA5 is also on PS3. It doesn't make sense for GTA5 not come to Switch unless Take 2 thinks Switch can't generate meaningful revenue with GTA Online.
Considering Switch is able to play last-gen games competently, a generation in which EA really thrived (Dragon Age 1-2, Mass Effect trilogy, Dead Space trilogy, Crysis trilogy, Mirror's Edge, some of the best Battlefield games, the many excellent PopCap ports which would do insanely well on the Switch, I could go on), it's odd to see nothing really carried over yet. It would be fairly easy and cheap to do. Even discounting license hell situations like FIFA or Need For Speed (or the judiciary hell of Amalur), they have so much stuff to pick from for quick and dirty remasters that they could sell on Switch at high prices as the userbase clearly proved they buy at that price too (Saints Row III was 40, solo Devil May Cry games from the PS2 were 20, Wii U games are 60, etc.).
Dear Nintendo, if you ever want to perform worse than you did during the Wii U days then please follow this advice.
EA knows their talk - well, we don't expect to compete with titles selling close to and over 20m so we won't even try to sell the usual 1-3m we could actually do.
Not that I would buy them but there are a few last gen ports that would be awesome for a lot of people on the Switch. From Dead Space to the Sims and stuff that could work like C&C and Red Alert. They would sell.
Not that I would buy them but there are a few last gen ports that would be awesome for a lot of people on the Switch. From Dead Space to the Sims and stuff that could work like C&C and Red Alert. They would sell.
I'd play the crap out of Madden Switch, and I don't even bother buying new Madden on PS4 anymore. Maybe I'm in the minority but I can imagine "portable, full Madden" would sell absolute gangbusters.
Why is EA so bad at handling their own back catalog?
They have 30 years of amazing games and amazing ip and would just do fantastic if was just ported and made to work on the switch and not talking like full remaster or anything just ports with "little effort".
Yes off course it takes and there are risk I understand that but start small and see how it goes and adjust according what sticks and what people cater to.
But nope.
They have 30 years of amazing games and amazing ip and would just do fantastic if was just ported and made to work on the switch and not talking like full remaster or anything just ports with "little effort".
Yes off course it takes and there are risk I understand that but start small and see how it goes and adjust according what sticks and what people cater to.
But nope.
Seriously morons is an harsh word, but I can't stop thinking there definitely is some irrationality on the way EA handles this.
Saying "most sold games are first party games" is dumb when the only real and serious efforts are first party... It takes time and investment to build an audience, not doing this is short sighted...
Whatever the reasons for EA not investing in Switch ports of smaller, less hardware intensive titles, it's still an incredibly disappointing position to have when a system is doing so well.
Obv. talking about the higher IPs that make these kind of calls - not every single dev associated with one of th biggest gaming publisher in the World.
EA being called out for what they have delivered so far in Switch shouldn't be that surprising.
If the plattform isn't the right fit for them - that's fine. But always framing it in a way that makes it seems like they tried their best but those Nintendo fans won't buy anything but Mario games is ridiculous - when there are plenty of non- Nintendo games performing we on Switch.
Never mind the Switch, the Wii U was a HD console. And at the time, it was an 'unprecedented partnership' for EA. They just made terrible decisions like porting over Mass Effect 3 for £60 instead of a trilogy collection and having no way to get the DLC. And a version of Fifa which was based on legacy editions. Ugh.
Even their crappy lazy fifa version does well (maybe even better than what they expected) but they don't say much about that for some reason.
But still, the biggest and stupidest decision imo is excluding de facto Nintendo platform from getting any star wars games. That is beyond dumb.
Pretty sure they're calling out the executives that make those decisions and not the devs. Unless you're part of that decision process and do not take kindly to people disagreeing with your stance -- which I don't think is the case here?
"Sorry investors, but Switch owners have taste. They wouldn't buy our crap.". ;-)
Mario + Rabbids by Ubisoft was quite succesful. Maybe BioWare could develop a new Golden Sun for Switch.
Mario + Rabbids by Ubisoft was quite succesful. Maybe BioWare could develop a new Golden Sun for Switch.
Although thinking back, the Wii U version of Need For Speed Most Wanted was really good, although it came out much later than the other versions. It was basically Burnout Paradise 2. Had lots of gamepad-related features, like changing the time of day on-the-fly or a weird co-driver mode where 2 people could control one car. I'll stop my tangent.
Agreed.
Sucks for those who play on the Switch and are fans of EA games (I like DragonAge and Fifa myself), but I don't really care anymore if they're doing something with the platform or not.
Too many games they release are cash-grabs anyway, which I don't mind not having on the Switch.
I doubt you guys make the decisions when it comes to what platforms develop for.
If Nintendo released their games on other systems they would probably be among the most sold games there as well.
There's some truth to the sentiment I guess. If EA released games on the Switch I would certainly not buy them, same as I'm already not buying them on PC and PS4.
There's some truth to the sentiment I guess. If EA released games on the Switch I would certainly not buy them, same as I'm already not buying them on PC and PS4.
I think that is what Sony is doing a bit. They're releasing their heavy hitters in Spring, so the third parties can have Christmas, even though Playstation usually does well during black friday.
Nintendo could think about doing something similar. However, the kind of games Nintendo makes obviously need the holiday season more, so it won't happen.
The answer is plain and simple. The excuses are made because of Frostbite. That is the reality of the situation. Half-assed ports of their sports titles run on a different engine for the Switch and get relegated to legacy edition. And yet despite putting the target the back of the games as being the poorer, worse off, product, apparently they still do okay and get put on the Switch but they are unwilling or simply just not interested in investing in the Switch at all.
EA is doing the definition of concern trolling and derailing the conversation of what the actual cause is. They are concerned that Nintendo's top titles are top titles which has no bearing on anything at all. Them looking into what might be good for the platform and what might not is also BS when game franchises like the Sims has always been a good fit for Nintendo systems, and have been on Nintendo systems for decades, enough to even warrant sequels and spinoffs also hitting their systems. Yet something like that would not make sense for the demographic? It's BS logic because there is hardly any logic to EA's statements regarding the Switch for the past few years now because they are excuses for their own engines not supporting the Switch so they are unable to quickly turn around and port them. This statement is almost a word for word repeat of last time.
Now, some of this could be alleviated and do what Capcom does in re-releasing their back catalog, but that is not something that interests EA at all right now.
EA is doing the definition of concern trolling and derailing the conversation of what the actual cause is. They are concerned that Nintendo's top titles are top titles which has no bearing on anything at all. Them looking into what might be good for the platform and what might not is also BS when game franchises like the Sims has always been a good fit for Nintendo systems, and have been on Nintendo systems for decades, enough to even warrant sequels and spinoffs also hitting their systems. Yet something like that would not make sense for the demographic? It's BS logic because there is hardly any logic to EA's statements regarding the Switch for the past few years now because they are excuses for their own engines not supporting the Switch so they are unable to quickly turn around and port them. This statement is almost a word for word repeat of last time.
Now, some of this could be alleviated and do what Capcom does in re-releasing their back catalog, but that is not something that interests EA at all right now.
EA better hope Nintendo never goes third party or there will be no place to hide.
You need to build an audience for that. Some companies understand that way better than others. Nobody coming from the Wii, the Wii U or the 3DS would blindly buy games from EA because there hasn't been barely anything good, or they just disrespect those consoles' audiences. When was the last time EA put some effort in a Nintendo console game? The cartoonized Fifa and NFS games?
Compared to that, Ubisoft at least tried to earn the Nintendo audience trust in both the handheld and home console space for example, they even re-released the Kenway saga being more than mere ports after releasing them on Wii U and failing sales wise.
EA has been nurturing their Xbox and Playstation ecosystems' audience for a very long time, they can't expect the same results from the neglected Nintendo ecosystem
Ironically Microsoft is one of the strongest supporters of Switch as a Western Developer.
They don't seem afraid of Nintendo's first party.
They don't seem afraid of Nintendo's first party.
EA doesn't even release the yearly FIFA demo on the eShop - that's really all you have so say.
They know it would be "bad" for them to actually release something that could sell big numbers in Switch because it would show shareholders that there is a viable market on the plattform and they could be pressured into supporting another plattform more seriously.
These kind of responses we been getting only work because they aren't releasing anything that could proof the opposite ...Sims on Switch seems like such a no brainer lol. People aren't event asking for their AAA titles targeting the latest console tech.
But no Garden Warfare when Splatoon is has a 10m audience on the console ?
They know it would be "bad" for them to actually release something that could sell big numbers in Switch because it would show shareholders that there is a viable market on the plattform and they could be pressured into supporting another plattform more seriously.
These kind of responses we been getting only work because they aren't releasing anything that could proof the opposite ...Sims on Switch seems like such a no brainer lol. People aren't event asking for their AAA titles targeting the latest console tech.
But no Garden Warfare when Splatoon is has a 10m audience on the console ?
Who knows, if a 3rd party would really put weight behind a AAA game for switch, I imagine Nintendo would let them have some breathing space, seeing how successful they are with their evergreen titles (and in their own long term interest obviously).
On the other hand, Nintendo's sales in the holidays is mainly due to families and presents for kids, so an adult 3rd party games might not profit that much from being the spotlight games in that season as they do on PS4.
Other than the Mass Effect trilogy, they have nothing I want to play on the Switch so that's fine by me.
They have nothing that isn't crippled by Frostbite 3 to run on Switch.
If people really didn't care for EA they wouldn't talk about them so much.
The thing about EA is they sit on some of the greatest IP of gaming. Battlefield, BioWare IP and Star Wars for the time being. People want those things to be good so when they're frequently not, not to mention Dead Space, EA gets the flack. People want these IP to thrive and they want EA to do right by it.
I love EA Sports games. Played them for almost 30 years. Why the hell would I hate them?