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EA: "I struggle with the perception that we're just a bunch of bad guys"
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I don't think they're evil, and i'm sure the people that work for them aren't.
Their upper management decisions though from a consumers point of view are terrible, their buisness practices are pretty awful with all their microtransactions and money grabbing and they seem to have shut down more studios and had people lose jobs more than any other publisher that I can remember. I don't think they are a good company unless you're a shareholder but evil is a little strong XD
Their upper management decisions though from a consumers point of view are terrible, their buisness practices are pretty awful with all their microtransactions and money grabbing and they seem to have shut down more studios and had people lose jobs more than any other publisher that I can remember. I don't think they are a good company unless you're a shareholder but evil is a little strong XD
I just don't like how lazy they've been with Madden since getting the exclusive rights to the NFL. I don't play multiplayer, and and the single-player modes always get skimmed over in favor of Ultimate Team. I will say that NBA Live provides a lot more progression than 2k without having to feel like you need to buy microtransactions.
Since I avoid their multi-player games, I don't have a huge problem with EA since you'll never catch me buying microtransactions anyway
Since I avoid their multi-player games, I don't have a huge problem with EA since you'll never catch me buying microtransactions anyway
Will you take a fucking look at Dead Space and Mass Effect you fucking cunts?
Seriously EA ya'll are delusional af
Seriously EA ya'll are delusional af
...Handsome Jack?Doesn't help that your CEO looks like a literal villain.
The fact that you genuinely believe this and believe they want the same for the Switch is literally baffling.
A series of poor business decisions on Sega's part as well as launch window, poor line up of titles and fierce competition killed the Dreamcast and segas console side. EA deciding to withhold Madden was an infinitesimal aspect of the Dreamcasts ultimate demise.
Well, it's probably the second rule of the empathy: "If you don't want to be the bad guy, don't act like one".
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They just need to find the right GaaS game to hook you.
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Online passes came from EA then they took them away because MT was becoming a thing and they knew that was where all their focus could go.
Killed too many studios, God awful yearly iterations that change nothing, I remember reading in a magazine way back when, That they wanted MP into Mass Effect 2 but it was too deep into development. The last remaining good Mass Effect ironically, How about buying MT to upgrade you're plasma cutter with MT in that co-op action game Dead Space 3 of which my brother did, I still blame him today for the killing of Dead Space series.
You're perceived bad, Because you are bad....albeit in a multi-billion worth way
Killed too many studios, God awful yearly iterations that change nothing, I remember reading in a magazine way back when, That they wanted MP into Mass Effect 2 but it was too deep into development. The last remaining good Mass Effect ironically, How about buying MT to upgrade you're plasma cutter with MT in that co-op action game Dead Space 3 of which my brother did, I still blame him today for the killing of Dead Space series.
You're perceived bad, Because you are bad....albeit in a multi-billion worth way
There was definitely a high profile rumor about that around when the Wii U launched, but there was never any confirmation. It could potentially explain some things if it is true, though.
Exactly. They're not the only ones doing it. And if they weren't doing it, their shareholders would sack their leadership until they found someone who would do it. Because the shareholders are who they are beholden to. It's the same with franchises they've abandoned. They abandoned them because the potential profit did not offset the risk.
It's not 'whataboutery' here, but simply pointing out that EA is not exceptional in the market. And they're not even the worst.
It seems like EA get a huge amount of flak for basically doing what the market rewards.
I was legitimately obsessed with all of those games. I miss arcade-y sports games so much.
It would be nice to get that confirmed one way or the other. It sounds like EA to hold that kind of grudge.
Oh yes, for sure. By all accounts it seems the autonomy BioWare was given became their own flaw since developing Andromeda especially. The whole "One BioWare" initiative seemed to have done colossal damage to the studio on the inside, with the toxicity between the studios being the reason why many left during the development of Mass Effect Andromeda, and it's incredible that could go on for years and years without EA doing anything about it, as the people who hold the money.
Why would you want them to look at those IPs right now? They already ruined Dead Space by making it a multiplayer loot shooter with MTX and Mass Effect went off the rails too. Even Dragon Age 4 is supposedly being rebooted as a GAAS title. The problem with EA is that the executives want all their games to fit into their monetisation strategy, they don't give a shit about anything else. The brief period when they greenlit bold projects like Mirror's Edge and Dead Space is long gone, the people in charge now do not care about making quality software.
This practices are wrong, and by law illegal in many contries. Thats why they came out with the "surprise mechanics" term for loot boxes as loot boxes have a negative conetation. Anyone doing this practices need to stop. Period. And gamers need to stop supporting these crappy companies untill they change their ways.
I dont give a fuck about the shareholders, im a consumer, if thers other publishers releasing games without ripping off consumers, im going to buy they games instead and these other companies have shareholders as well.
Take a look at what CDPR do with they games as an example of pro consumer and not anti-consumer. They offer a shitload of extras that others would release in a "special edition", offer free DLC and when they ask you money is for expansions that are bigger than most full priced single player games. Not to forget that they games are DRM free on PC as well.
You know how many EA games i bought this gen? 1, it was Fifa18 during the world cup and thats because it was super cheap and included the world cup mode for free. (witch was the only good move i saw them doing this entire generation)
EA could vanish to another dimension and i would not miss them. They turned Bioware one of the best western RPG makers in an embarassing developer.
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With gatcha mechanics and more microtransactions.
Back on topic, EA has always been in my shitlist since they bought Bullfrog and Westwood and killed them. All they know is to buy studios and their IPs and then suck the life out of those franchises before burying them. The supposed Generals 2 was filled with microtransactions. C&C 4 is a travesty that shouldn't exist.
Them killing Dead Space/Visceral is fucking criminal.
EA's dead to me til they right that wrong.
I don't give two fucks about annual sports games pumped out on an assembly line.
EA's dead to me til they right that wrong.
I don't give two fucks about annual sports games pumped out on an assembly line.
Real talkRemember that time where the bad guy in Mirror's edge Catalyst looked a lot like EA's CEO:
He looks badass
No. The concept was never intentionally referencing Andrew Wilson.
Westwood more or less became EALA and had a great run. Maxis still exists and is working on cool stuff. Likewise BioWare.
Isn't it pretty much a different studio using the Maxis name? Sim City is done, so they may as well be dead too.
No, there's people there that have been there decades and the Sims was always their most popular game which reaches a diverse audience that's really underserved in the market - just cus you aren't into the game, doesn't mean they are dead and not really sucessful.
Edit: Just looked up wikipedia - the original studio of Maxis was in Walnut Creek when bought by EA which was then moved to Redwood City which is still the Maxis studio today. It's not exactly clear when the Emeryville studio that was closed was first set up but it appears to be an offshoot?
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EA gaming's top poster boy of a corporation that revels in hyper capitalism.
Everything they do has a predatory slant to it.
Everything they do has a predatory slant to it.
I don't think any other publisher has a longer list of murdered studios under their belt, or murdered franchises (simcity, dead space, c&c, medal of honor, burnout, and now probably mass effect, list goes on and on....)
Add to that their position on favoring and defending anti-consumer practices.
The fact that they ask themselves why people see EA as the devil is indicative of how disconnected they are with consumers. Their indie program sounds good, but since this is EA I can't help but feel that this too will be changed to fit their corporate culture over time until it's only a shade of what it is now.
Add to that their position on favoring and defending anti-consumer practices.
The fact that they ask themselves why people see EA as the devil is indicative of how disconnected they are with consumers. Their indie program sounds good, but since this is EA I can't help but feel that this too will be changed to fit their corporate culture over time until it's only a shade of what it is now.
Too large, too traditional business focused. That's what happens. It's a corporate style company now with fiduciary goals coming first and foremost. I get that's just the way of large companies. But it goes at odds with the gaming community and to a broader degree good consumer practices.
And really it's not specifically EA to blame. It's corporate structure/identity/operating procedures of today's business world. The problem is EA asks "How do we do better?" And when people respond they go, "ok ok, but without changing the way our business operates". And therein lies the problem. A problem they're potentially no longer capable of addressing do to their size and structure.
And really it's not specifically EA to blame. It's corporate structure/identity/operating procedures of today's business world. The problem is EA asks "How do we do better?" And when people respond they go, "ok ok, but without changing the way our business operates". And therein lies the problem. A problem they're potentially no longer capable of addressing do to their size and structure.
The NFL deal wasn't EA's doing, the NFL decided they wanted to make extra money (and simplify their licensing deals) by signing an exclusive multi-year contract with one publisher. They put the deal out for companies to bid on, if EA hadn't bid on it, someone else would have.
I remember a thread on GAF back in maybe 2014 or so, where Peter Moore said in an interview that he and several people at EA made a conscious attempt to figure out why the company had such a bad reputation by scouring gaming enthusiast sites like GAF, in an effort to rid themselves of the 'evil corporation' tag and be perceived in a more positive light. I'm pretty sure Mirror's Edge Catalyst was part of this initiative, and the main reason it was greenlit was to earn good will among gamers above all else.
But then Peter Moore left shortly after and MEC was a big ol' disappointment and it was business as usual after that.
But then Peter Moore left shortly after and MEC was a big ol' disappointment and it was business as usual after that.
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