Many people are likely on multiple lists since a lot of the same people attend E3 every year.
Many people are likely on multiple lists since a lot of the same people attend E3 every year.
unlikely since the other 2 E3s that they are talking about are described as being "long ago".oh, so now I could be affected, assuming E3 2018 was one of them
Hopefully that second breach was contained before it got out there though
Ah, sorry, I misunderstood then. I'll edit my post.This is Rick (Hoeg Law). That's my video. Just for clarity, I am not her lawyer and she is not my client, just gave her legal background on request as I have done for a number of other folks at a number of other outlets. I made clear on Twitter and in that video the timeline as I knew it based on that contact, in terms of steps taken to prevent dissemination.
unlikely since the other 2 E3s that they are talking about are described as being "long ago".
As a youtuber who has managed to keep my real name off the internet for 7+ years, this would have been quite fucked.
Thankfully I'm too broke and unimportant at 70k subs to even think about attending E3.
I've got friends with much bigger channels who've had people just show up at the front door, it's scary shit.
Official Staff CommunicationHello everyone as a reminder please be extra careful about not making posts that may include clues about how to find the list -- it's all over the place at this point but we can do our part to not help it spread further.
Also you can confirm who is NOT on the list, but please take care not to confirm that anyone is on the list unless that individual has volunteered that information publicly. Thank you
Phishing, spam, using the information to guess security questions (for example, badly designed reset password forms), using the confirmed valid emails as part of credential stuffing attacks etc. Even ignoring the Gamergate angle, this breach is real bad.I'm still unsure though other than making an easy targeted list, what this means for people like me who dont use an alias for games coverage.
Phishing, spam, using the information to guess security questions (for example, badly designed reset password forms), using the confirmed valid emails as part of credential stuffing attacks etc. Even ignoring the Gamergate angle, this breach is real bad.
Well like I was saying, I dont know for certain but it seems as if my info that was leaked is the same thing that can be found on whitepages.com
I would need to see the actual list to confirm but I didnt find it as easily as people seem to think you can.
Sorry to hear that. Lawsuit. ASAP. Someone is already in the process of banding people together, get in touch with some of them.Oh great. My info is out there since I went last year and the year before that. Perfect.
Dude, no. Please. At best, change your email address.
List (two lists now) is information of 8000+ journalists and media reps from around the world. Info such as Full name, mailing address, phone number, email address, company they work for, and more. You can't find a list like that on Whitepages.com, let alone you cannot verify the info on whitepages to be accurate or can be pinpointed to you.
However, this list, along with Whitepages, is damning and will lead to harassments of self and family if someone pleases.
I've seen the list. It's people from all around the world, not just North America.
I will see if you're in the list.
EDIT: PM-ed you.
Yeah you're right its more detail than I would like partialy because it can be assumed it's correct.
Other than my email though everything on the list is the same phone info and dress info I can find on whitepages.com and truepeoplesearch.com I just checked
Still sucks all the same
Its annoying that the ESA never responded with my request to at least tell me what of mine was shown.
Fucking hell.gamesindustry.biz reports that databases containing journalist info for two other E3s are in the wild.
2800 from one show, 3300 from another, all in archives.
...what's the next step above tire fire?
What trust is there for anyone to attend E3 anymore, whether you're a journalist or just an attendee? I was going to go next year, but now I'm definitely not.
No problem, good that this were resolved with the mods tooNo problem. Whether someone is a client/legal advice was given is just one of those important areas I have to clarify if I see it wrongly stated. Otherwise, I would have left it alone. Thanks for adding the clarification.
Well, I'd be ok with them paying the consequences of having to cancel next year's E3. At the same time, one could argue that next year will be the safest time to go there because surely they will be taking many steps to ensure nothing like this happens to them again. One must assume at least.What trust is there for anyone to attend E3 anymore, whether you're a journalist or just an attendee? I was going to go next year, but now I'm definitely not.
thats going to be another huge part of the lawsuit............the fact that they haven't even informed anyone on that list, there could be quite a few out there that don't even know they are potentially a target
Sounds plausible. The 2019 list that "got out" was designed to be freely distributed to the exhibitors and had a direct, unprotected link on E3 website. It is very likely they have done it in the previous years too.The GI.Biz story doesn't work, how credible is it at this moment? Can anyone confirm more people were affected?
The GI.Biz story doesn't work, how credible is it at this moment? Can anyone confirm more people were affected?
not surprised ESA are acting like this will blow over soon
cowards
Sounds plausible. The 2019 list that "got out" was designed to be freely distributed to the exhibitors and had a direct, unprotected link on E3 website. It is very likely they have done it in the previous years too.
They likely took it down because it gave vague hints at how people could find older versions of the list from previous years.
I think it is safe to say it was credible since the ESA themselves said they put the list from previous years up in the same manner.
Oof. I'm not a data protection lawyer, but I think the act of distributing journalists' personal info to exhibitors could potentially be a GDPR violation on its own, especially if it was something you had to explicitly opt-out of in order to get your details off the list.Sounds plausible. The 2019 list that "got out" was designed to be freely distributed to the exhibitors and had a direct, unprotected link on E3 website. It is very likely they have done it in the previous years too.
Sounded to me like it was all business contact information, but some (most?) content creators don't have a business address since they work from home and used their home address instead.Oof. I'm not a data protection lawyer, but I think the act of distributing journalists' personal info to exhibitors could potentially be a GDPR violation on its own, especially if it was something you had to explicitly opt-out of in order to get your details off the list.
While that is a fair point, from what I understand email addresses would be considered private personal information for GDPR purposes, and so I do think the ESA would still be in potential trouble (before we consider that all this information leaked and now the ESA definitely is in trouble).Sounded to me like it was all business contact information, but some (most?) content creators don't have a business address since they work from home and used their home address instead.
As it should. This is insane and needs to be dealt with as harshly as possible.Yeah, this is what I was worried about. Seeing stories of former fellow journalists being harassed is terrible. It actually makes me sick seeing this happen. At this rate they're gonna get into a class action lawsuit of epic proportions, combined with a considerable fine from the EU because they did not maintain adequate private security protocols in accordance with the GDPR.
We'll see how this goes, but it's fair to say this is going to have heavy repercussions throughout the industry.
Page not found, but if true, Jesus fucking christgamesindustry.biz reports that databases containing journalist info for two other E3s are in the wild.
2800 from one show, 3300 from another, all in archives.
...what's the next step above tire fire?
Did they take the article down or is the link broken? I'm just getting an error page.gamesindustry.biz reports that databases containing journalist info for two other E3s are in the wild.
2800 from one show, 3300 from another, all in archives.
...what's the next step above tire fire?
Having seen some people I follow state on Twitter that they have already been harassed with strange and creepy emails, I am interested in that list too. Because my friends need to know ASAP too. Also, is there a central place to sign up for a class action lawsuit yet? I want to provide them with that info as well if possible.
Oof. I'm not a data protection lawyer, but I think the act of distributing journalists' personal info to exhibitors could potentially be a GDPR violation on its own, especially if it was something you had to explicitly opt-out of in order to get your details off the list.
why was it taken down? not accurate or what?Gamesindustry took down the article. I was able to access the link about 3 hours ago but now it doesn't work, and I cannot find the article on their site anymore.
EDIT: Found it by searching but the article is not accessible.
Absolute dumb, but if you are a journalist and use your personal data for this stuff then you have no business being a journalist.
Use
business email
Business mailing address
business address
business phone