Dusk Golem: Resident Evil 8 is Darkest and Most Gruesome Resident Evil Game!

SirKai · May 8, 2020

Lord Fanny said:
I mean, divisive to internet nerds, I guess, but RE7 was very well received and I think is like the third or fourth best selling game in the franchise now right. I mean, I guess it'll be divisive to the people who already don't like 7, but I mean, that's just obvious.

A game that is best selling definitely doesn't preclude it from being controversial or divisive, or even generally reviewing well. RE6 sold better than 7 (and is the second best selling game in the series) and is obviously extremely divisive. MGS2 is the second best selling game in that series, (second only to MGS5 IIRC), and reviewed spectacularly, but there's no doubt about that game's controversy and footprint on its franchise.

Resident Evil of course has history with stalker enemies, but those characters have lots of fans and detractors (so much so that RE7 was compared to Outlast and Amnesia for months). RE has also only dabbled in occult subject matter and imagery very superficially; mostly in RE4 but with virtually no depth except for it informing the enemy designs, and occasionally in other games to provide some spooky locales (the Marguerite section of RE7, some of the Alex stuff in Rev2, Lisa's lair in REmake), so if RE8 is really putting a greater focus on occult themes then that would also be a pretty big departure. If the report of "werewolves" is accurate then that's also quite unique for RE, but comparatively reasonable to meat transformers Simmons in 6.

Nameless · May 8, 2020

Dusk Golem said:
Exploration has a much bigger role this time, but differently than past Resident Evils. Most of the game is outdoors for example.

I'm very much from the, "more exploration the better" school of RE fandom and Survival Horror in general, so this is exactly what I love to hear.

Egida · May 8, 2020

Yes yes, maybe it starts with beasts and werewolf like enemies, and then OH FUCK HOW MANY EYES ARE IN THAT THING?

AuthenticM · May 8, 2020

Dusk Golem said:
Exploration has a much bigger role this time, but differently than past Resident Evils. Most of the game is outdoors for example.

Is the level design continuous? I mean is the game one giant level that the players goes through without jarring segmentations? One of the things I hated most about the RE3 remake was precisely that: the levels felt segmented and did not fit together at all.

Reizzz · May 8, 2020

Hoping for creepy daylight sections

MetalKhaos · May 8, 2020

Dusk Golem said:
Exploration has a much bigger role this time, but differently than past Resident Evils. Most of the game is outdoors for example.

Kind of liking hearing that there's going to be a lot more outdoors than inside buildings. Thanks for sharing!

Chasing · May 8, 2020

I don't think PSVR2 will be out by the time this releases, but man, that will be an experience to look forward to.

Toriko · May 8, 2020

Lant_War said:
Fuck no. RE7 demo in VR almost killed me

RE7 PSVR is legit one of the greatest games of this gen. It makes the regular version look so inferior its not even funny.

I feel like I personally travelled that house. Go for it! It is worth it!

Star-Lord · May 8, 2020

Dusk Golem said:
Some of the most divisive stuff is still in and out at this stage of development, the story is seeing some big changes right now from the transition from Rev 3 to RE8, but I'll say this now, there's some real shit in this game even if the most shocking stuff doesn't end up in the final.

Do you think after the game comes out will you expand on what was cut or some of the shocking stuff that was cut?

Lord Fanny · May 8, 2020

SirKai said:
A game that is best selling definitely doesn't preclude it from being controversial or divisive, or even generally reviewing well. RE6 sold better than 7 (and is the second best selling game in the series) and is obviously extremely divisive. MGS2 is the second best selling game in that series, (second only to MGS5 IIRC), and reviewed spectacularly, but there's no doubt about that game's controversy and footprint on its franchise.

Yeah, but again, that brings us around to 'divisive to who.' I mean, I guess if we're just talking about forum-goers like the people posting here, I guess it'll be very divisive, since almost everything is very divisive. People get divisive about the color of costumes and hair and all kinds of stupid shit. If that's all Dusk is talking about, that Twitter and ERA are going to be mad, okay. I mean, that is his main audience I guess, so I get talking in those limited terms.

But that wasn't even really my point anyway. What I was saying is we keep hearing about how 'divisive' this is going to be, but then when we get any details it just feels like a pretty obvious continuation of 7. Like nothing of these leaks seemed all that drastic from the base work we got in 7. So, I don't know, maybe I just am thinking in broader terms than just internet forum posters, but I am not seeing the 'divisive' material this supposedly has that's so different than the 9,000 other reiterations of this franchise.

Masagiwa · May 8, 2020

heavybreathing

Jawmuncher · May 8, 2020

Sounds like it could be my favorite RE game

Dusk Golem · May 8, 2020

AuthenticM said:
Is the level design continuous? I mean is the game one giant level that the players goes through without jarring segmentations? One of the things I hated most about the RE3 remake was precisely that: the levels felt segmented and did not fit together at all.

Different teams, but a little of collumn A and B. Keep in mind this game was originally a Revelations game, there's more than one playable character though Ethan is the main character.

dlauv · May 8, 2020

This is all very exciting to me. Thanks, Dusk.

Pilgrimzero · May 8, 2020

I hope they keep to monsters being monsters and not crazy humans!!! ooohhhh! Evil villagers/soldiers!

Dusk Golem said:
Different teams, but a little of collumn A and B. Keep in mind this game was originally a Revelations game, there's more than one playable character though Ethan is the main character.

Rev 2 was not... good. Ill wait and see. 7 was great though,

Dusk Golem · May 8, 2020

Star-Lord said:
Do you think after the game comes out will you expand on what was cut or some of the shocking stuff that was cut?

Absolutely, I have a lot to share and this game's development and changes are utterly fascinating and worthwhile. There's been huge changes to it during development.

imapioneer · May 8, 2020

Is this the game that's drawing inspiration from resident evil 3.5?

Toriko · May 8, 2020

Dusk Golem said:
Different teams, but a little of collumn A and B. Keep in mind this game was originally a Revelations game, there's more than one playable character though Ethan is the main character.

Thank you! If I may ask Have you heard any info on Silent Hill at all? Is it open world?

AuthenticM · May 8, 2020

Dusk Golem said:
Different teams, but a little of collumn A and B. Keep in mind this game was originally a Revelations game, there's more than one playable character though Ethan is the main character.

The game is made by different teams again? That's disappointing to hear. I really don't want another case of RE3.

ASilentProtagonist · May 8, 2020

Is there a rumor for where this will show up? I can easily see Sony going for the double whammy at their PS5 event, Silent Hill + Resident Evil 8.

Dusk Golem · May 8, 2020

AuthenticM said:
The game is made by different teams again? That's disappointing to hear. I really don't want another case of RE3.

No, different team than the RE3 people I meant.

Sklaary · May 8, 2020

Can you tell us something abt the graphical quality?

NDA-Man · May 8, 2020

Dusk Golem said:
Different teams, but a little of collumn A and B. Keep in mind this game was originally a Revelations game, there's more than one playable character though Ethan is the main character.

Hm... the obvious alternate PC would be Chris. Which would be boring. I really want to see Jill again, but I'm fairly sure that's not gonna happen. Could it be Tofu?

Although Mia was playable for a little in VII, so it might be her.

Kinthey · May 8, 2020

RE7 was already crazy with all those dynamic wounds. Wonder if Ethan is going to lose some limbs again, lol (would have honestly loved it if they had made that a gameplay system)

-Le Monde- · May 8, 2020

Dusk Golem said:
Exploration has a much bigger role this time, but differently than past Resident Evils. Most of the game is outdoors for example.

That could be very scary if done right. Are we talking forest like area? That would be amazing, and should cover that Raccoon Forest itch. :3

SirKai said:
A game that is best selling definitely doesn't preclude it from being controversial or divisive, or even generally reviewing well. RE6 sold better than 7 (and is the second best selling game in the series) and is obviously extremely divisive. MGS2 is the second best selling game in that series, (second only to MGS5 IIRC), and reviewed spectacularly, but there's no doubt about that game's controversy and footprint on its franchise.

Resident Evil of course has history with stalker enemies, but those characters have lots of fans and detractors (so much so that RE7 was compared to Outlast and Amnesia for months). RE has also only dabbled in occult subject matter and imagery very superficially; mostly in RE4 but with virtually no depth except for it informing the enemy designs, and occasionally in other games to provide some spooky locales (the Marguerite section of RE7, some of the Alex stuff in Rev2, Lisa's lair in REmake), so if RE8 is really putting a greater focus on occult themes then that would also be a pretty big departure. If the report of "werewolves" is accurate then that's also quite unique for RE, but comparatively reasonable to meat transformers Simmons in 6.

To be fair, critical, and fan reception was very poor. RE6 is the worst reviewed RE main game in the franchise if I'm not mistaken.

Keym · May 8, 2020

Me reading those tweets:

Hippopuncher12 · May 8, 2020

Ahhhh yissss. I really hope it has a far more diverse enemy selection than 7, that was by far it's weakest point. I also hope it has VR.

Dusk Golem · May 8, 2020

Spreewaldgurke said:
Can you tell us something abt the graphical quality?

I don't know much outside of them updating character models and textures after it was determined to be RE8 again. It's still a RE Engine game and probably looks good, but there's a serious chance there may be more graphical disparity between elements of the game with some of it looking very good and some of it looking okay, especially also with VR in mind and stuff where hitting a constant 60fps is more important than fidelity.

Demon Lizardman · May 8, 2020

Egida said:
Yes yes, maybe it starts with beasts and werewolf like enemies, and then OH FUCK HOW MANY EYES ARE IN THAT THING?

So Bloodborne?

Brhoom · May 8, 2020

Chris will die in this then

Gold Arsene · May 8, 2020

Star-Lord said:

Well that's encouraging.

Glad I already dropped out at it being a FPS again.

Deleted member 4494 · May 8, 2020

Hmm. I was hoping the game wouldn't take itself *super* seriously given werewolves, witches, and what-have-yous running around -- hopefully "dark" doesn't necessarily translate to completely humorless.

Capra · May 8, 2020

Oh fuck yes. Games need more werewolf shit. Give me all of it.

Star-Lord · May 8, 2020

Dusk Golem said:
Absolutely, I have a lot to share and this game's development and changes are utterly fascinating and worthwhile. There's been huge changes to it during development.

Thanks man! I appreciate the responding you do here!

Lord Fanny · May 8, 2020

Spoo said:
Hmm. I was hoping the game wouldn't take itself *super* seriously given werewolves, witches, and what-have-yous running around -- hopefully "dark" doesn't necessarily translate to completely humorless.

Yeah, dark is so vague I don't know why people are taking to be serious. Humor can be dark. The environment could be dark lol. Could mean damn near anything

MeltedDreams · May 8, 2020

Dusk Golem said:
I'll tease this here, not tentacles, a lot more rot and cult/canine imagery going on.

All these rumors sounds excellent! This is going to look absolutely amazing with updated version of RE engine. Make it dark and scary as all hell Capcom.
Fingers crossed for reveal at Sony event.

Undeniablybiased · May 8, 2020

Are wolves and castles still on the table? Or was that debunked?

Personally I hope they don't go too creepy or gross. It was always comforting in resident evil when you get further into the game and see the science behind what's going on and you know every problem can be solved by an anti virus serum or something. Lol. Maybe people don't like that, but I enjoy how re games start as scary mysteries and then turn into explainable phenomenon, with the gameplay loop generally following as the character becomes more confident and competent.

Daddy JeanPi · May 8, 2020

I'm more hyped about Chris being redesigned.

Lowblood · May 8, 2020

I always worry in the periods prior to new RE announcements that they'll change things too much, especially with how the rumors are going for this one. On the other hand, the recent string of releases for the franchise (RE Rev 2, RE7, RE2R, RE3R) is one of the strongest sustained periods the franchise has ever had, and each one of them has felt "RE" to me, occasionally in different ways. So I guess I should just trust Capcom for now. :P

NDA-Man said:
Hm... the obvious alternate PC would be Chris. Which would be boring. I really want to see Jill again, but I'm fairly sure that's not gonna happen. Could it be Tofu?

Although Mia was playable for a little in VII, so it might be her.

Well, if it was indeed Rev 3 to begin with, it might be a little more than that. Character swaps in standard RE games (say, RE7, and RE2 and RE3, originals and remakes) tend to be your "helper" characters who are in the same place and situation as you. Rev 1 and 2 had swaps in completely different places and across different time periods, particularly since the games followed a light "episodic" model. If Ethan is in a village area for the whole game, we could be swapping to people in different places that happen to be tied to the same plot. Still, just speculation. It could easily just be Ethan in this particular building then Chris down the street a bit.

a Question · May 8, 2020

Dusk Golem just a question that can be answered with personal opinion then insight info but wouldnt you consider that realising RE4R which is campy/cheese/fun after RE8 being really serious and more grotesque could be a bit jarring?

Especially sine as you say RE8 will devise fans, is kinda a weird move.

Gold Arsene · May 8, 2020

Brhoom said:
Chris will die in this then

Well if you waned to find a sure fire way to kill what little interest in this series I had left.

Caiops · May 8, 2020

I prefer third person but RE7 was really amazing, count me in.

Dusk Golem Do you know if Revelations 3 is still being worked on? Really wanna see more about Nathalia.

Deleted member 17184 · May 8, 2020

As long as it makes sense and it doesn't go into edgy territory, I'm okay with that.

SolidSnakeUS · May 8, 2020

I Wanna Be The Guy said:
And in VR baby!

Hopefully for VR on PC as well!

Acidote · May 8, 2020

This game is going to be revealed / shown at the PS5 games reveal, isn't it?

Dusk Golem · May 8, 2020

Spoo said:
Hmm. I was hoping the game wouldn't take itself *super* seriously given werewolves, witches, and what-have-yous running around -- hopefully "dark" doesn't necessarily translate to completely humorless.

It shouldn't, but even if they cut some of the darkest stuff in the game, it'll still be a dark as fuck game. I guess the least spoilery thing I can say is for example Chris

did something actually horrible and fucked up with full intent to do it, and its quite something.

But trust me, this is just the tip of the iceberg here.

Demon Lizardman · May 8, 2020

Is the enemy variety any good? That was a big problem I had was 7.

Sklaary · May 8, 2020

Dusk Golem said:
I don't know much outside of them updating character models and textures after it was determined to be RE8 again. It's still a RE Engine game and probably looks good, but there's a serious chance there may be more graphical disparity between elements of the game with some of it looking very good and some of it looking okay, especially also with VR in mind and stuff where hitting a constant 60fps is more important than fidelity.

Thanks for the information 🙏
what is your guess? Do we hear/see something official in May ?

Star-Lord · May 8, 2020

Dusk Golem said:
It shouldn't, but even if they cut some of the darkest stuff in the game, it'll still be a dark as fuck game. I guess the least spoilery thing I can say is for example Chris

did something actually horrible and fucked up with full intent to do it, and its quite something.

But trust me, this is just the tip of the iceberg here.

Not my boy.... what has he become!

fetus8 · May 8, 2020

SolidSnakeUS said:
Hopefully for VR on PC as well!

After HL: Alyx, on current PC VR Hardware, I'm really really hoping Capcom can release RE8 on PC with VR support.
It will be amazingly terrifying.

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