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Dusk Golem: RE8 still cross-gen, aiming for H1 2021 release
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why not? he's pretty much always on point. the tweet that started this thread mentioned 4 things and 3 of them have been announced/confirmed. surely people are interested in what someone with actual inside info has to say?
a-a-a-akchually the 16th is the second half s-s-s-so.........
1. Usually. You going to ignore the countless other times he was right?
2. He didn't make that up "to even it up", he decided to share that info for that (dumb) reason. Not the same.
Err...3 months later they decide its going back to cross-gen and its 3 months away from release? Or is it getting delayed.
he never said he made things up to even things. he's clarified it like 10 times on twitter. and see this post.
I'm glad, for personal reasons as well as logical reasons. The game will make far more money cross gen.
Only if it's something they want to be true.why not? he's pretty much always on point. the tweet that started this thread mentioned 4 things and 3 of them have been announced/confirmed. surely people are interested in what someone with actual inside info has to say?
My thought has been that it didn't make commercial sense for a third party publisher to limit a new mainline entry in such a major franchise to, what will be, such a small install base through 2021. If it were 2022 then that would be a different matter. Was very surprised when it wasn't announced for current gen consoles, so won't be surprised when it is.
Even if you trust him, you don't have to overcompensate. He's been wrong or had outdated information plenty of times, especially when it's outside his wheelhouse (Capcom).
As for this rumour, sure, I guess. If it happens, it happens, I don't really care either way. I'll be playing it on PS5.
Exactly, and take it at face value. He hears things and is right a lot of times. That being said he does not know the deep end of what is happening. Like the RE8 rumours of not running wel on PS5. This could be for a number of reasons and maybe has nothing to do with the power of the console. But Dusk only hears that it does not run that well and it has something to do with going crossgen. It could be that the PS5 version was running fine until the decision was made to make it crossgen. He wast talking about that some features needed to be removed.
it says first half of 2021. could be anywhere between 3 to 9 months from release (more likely 6 to 9 months, can't see this being released in Q1).
Either his initial info was wrong, or maybe Capcom backtracked on current-gen after cutting some features that were not running well on next-gen too?
you say "this guy" as if Dusk is some random and not a long time prominent Era user and indie game developer.
hopefully free upgrades, but capcom hasn't set a good precedent with DMC5SE.
This doesn't make sense since this person extensively detailed why he believed Capcom was making RE8 a next-gen exclusive just a few months ago??
Just seems weird. Although perhaps this is a good sign that going between the current and next-gen consoles is as easy as its being reported. Then again his reports about PS5 problems lol brain hurts
things change during development, he seems confident now, and since we're only a few days away from the TGS presentation for the game, it's almost certainly something they're gonna announce there
Come on people.
It's obvious this guy is making stuff up based on what he hears about "next gen". Some of his information may be true but RE8 having all next-gen stuff a week after PS5's showcase, and now going back to cross-gen a week after PS5's showcase.
He's just single handily created the narrative for RE8, if he was making videos on YouTube like this, people would laugh at him.
There's just no reason to doubt them on Capcom stuff. Maybe some info will be old/wrong given the nature of leaks, but they absolutely nailed Rise and the engine choice.
Dude accurately leaked the setting, plot, and title of RE:8. He accurately leaked the issues inside Capcom with Ono and Street fighter. He got the Sony showcase right. He got MH Rise right. The Shenmue comic.
No idea why this guy keeps talking on work in progress.
When shit changes like this, it just makes him seem as someone that talks out of his ass when he clearly does have some sort of inside knowledge in capcom.
Those visuals don't look particularly targeted for PS5 though. Lighting and asset quality looks like something I can see pretty similar on PS4 Pro and XboneX. I would be surprised if this of all games is struggling since it has looked one of the least impressive graphically speaking of the big games shown on PS5.
Yet he is the only one stating PS5 has issues with games being developed on it, when there are multiple other devs out there stating the absolute opposite that he is. He may be right when it comes to the games that are coming out, but doesn't seem too accurate otherwise.
You guys are still on that and completely misinterpreting what he said and what others said in response.
He was talking about a single game. On a single platform. At a single point in development.
Does that mean the hallucination stuff is out? Or it'll be there with load screens for the old consoles? They can do some crazy psychological horror stuff without any load time constraints.
The village and castle looked pretty big on the trailers which means the current consoles are going to be struggling with pop-in issues if the areas are pretty detailed. They'll make a lot more money going cross-gen although I'm grabbing the next-gen version for that sweet SSD power
The village and castle looked pretty big on the trailers which means the current consoles are going to be struggling with pop-in issues if the areas are pretty detailed. They'll make a lot more money going cross-gen although I'm grabbing the next-gen version for that sweet SSD power
Maybe just maybe a lot of devs like to keep their friendly relationships intact and aren't going to share some teething issues that will get ironed out or worked around once the platform is understood better. Who knows?
Or you know, it could be specific to re engine resi 8 specifically.
This witch hunt for dusk when he's got so much right is pretty embarrassing imo.
so he's right when it comes to the topic of this thread? what's the issue then?
I don't think Dusk is on a first person basis with the info. They're usually correct on Capcom stuff, but a number of things (like with RE7) ended up a bit outdated due to development being beyond their scope of insight. So a back and forth on development in cross-gen isn't unlikely, but could be kept internal for some time or still ultimately dropped. They're getting stuff before it's public, but clearly they are being outpaced whatever goes on internally.
Development changes a lot, and depending on how elements are delegated or the overall work flow there's hardly a straight avenue on where things stand until very late in the process. And even then you get some really odd pulls of major titles crumbling after much of the work is done or it ends up chopped into far less than what was there 3 months previously. The ebb and flow of implementing tools while optimizing efficiently is a part of that as well.
And while I think sticking their foot into stuff that somewhat goes beyond their purview (ex. system costs), it's not a foreign concept that some engines and teams can struggle on optimizing on platforms that others do not.
Development changes a lot, and depending on how elements are delegated or the overall work flow there's hardly a straight avenue on where things stand until very late in the process. And even then you get some really odd pulls of major titles crumbling after much of the work is done or it ends up chopped into far less than what was there 3 months previously. The ebb and flow of implementing tools while optimizing efficiently is a part of that as well.
And while I think sticking their foot into stuff that somewhat goes beyond their purview (ex. system costs), it's not a foreign concept that some engines and teams can struggle on optimizing on platforms that others do not.
Erm it feels like a sign of untenably bad project management to backtrack twice regarding such a big decision. We shall find out soon enough anyway
if i were to guess (and i could be totally wrong), i'd say capcom realized how much money they'd be leaving on the table by not selling the game to the massive userbase of ps4+xb1. specially after 3 kinda sorta underperformed, they may have needed the money.
Pragmatic looks ugly AF though...RE8 is crosstown and looks mikes better than that game. Pragmatic looks worse than DMCV
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Completely irresponsible reporting of anything that he hears.. getting really sick of this character and his act. Maybe he should be given a time out from here until he can develop stable and trustworthy sources or decide to stop making up rumours.
If its coming january it was always crossgen. When it was nextgen only i thought end of 2021
I'm pretty sure the guy's right but I'm really hoping he's wrong this time.
I don't want RE to hold back the design of the game because of current-gen.
I don't want RE to hold back the design of the game because of current-gen.
I can't agree especially when all we saw was an in-engine trailer.
The girl's hair in the trailer though? That looks funky and seems to be a common trait with RE Engine unfortunately.
Yes, I'm actually surprised at this new post of his because I remember those tweets quite well.
So was Horizon. And Sackboy.
Shenmue anime, MH Switch, SFVI Ono issues, countless RE stuff in the past... all on the money from him. Get over yourself.
You have no idea what is going on under the hood or what they could be struggling with. The assumption that all games are equal in the visuals versus performance trade off is ludicrous.
Some people won't forgive Dusk for saying negative things about PS5
on topic, I think it isn't really surprising. The game being next gen only was the weird thing and didn't make much sense out of a moneyhat and/or exclusivity agreement...
on topic, I think it isn't really surprising. The game being next gen only was the weird thing and didn't make much sense out of a moneyhat and/or exclusivity agreement...
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