A solos mode that takes out respawning but includes wall running and titans would be...amazing. Lol
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Duos coming to Apex Legends permanently
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A solos mode that takes out respawning but includes wall running and titans would be...amazing. Lol
Well, duos is happening no matter what I think, but it's important for games to keep an identity. I don't like building in Fortnite, but I'm not about to demand that Epic create a separate mode just for me to suit my preferred play style that gives me a better chance of winning.
I won't stop playing Apex because I had some bad teammates, but I will if it starts taking too long to find a game because the player base is dispersed across 5-6 different modes.
Just imagine how perfect it would be:
-Speed ramps around the map, or jump pads placed around key areas. Just a bunch of ideas to increase speed.
-Customizable Titanfall pilots to play as (Apex can then sell even more cosmetics). Or just giving us the existing Legends without their abilities
-Bunch of equipment like grapples, smoke launchers, phase shifts, etc. to make the combat more strategic, but not limited to a hero pick.
-The thrill of using the existing speed/gameplay to dodge in and out of combat, WITHOUT being slowed down by revives or playing around banners or teammates. Just speeding through the map, getting instant kills without needing to finish off enemies. It would speed up the game and make it a lot more frenetic.
It would completely refresh Apex and open up the audience to a ton of new players.
Those and several other modes were found in the files from the latest patch. New Season starts Tuesday too.
No direct link to the amazing new lore cinematic?
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If everyone had their way, there will be even more modes. Apex, ranked, duos, solos, ranked duos, ranked solos, worlds edge ranked, kings canyon ranked, etc...
You know, it'd be even COOLER if you could call in these giant robots from orbit and you could get inside them and shoot things...
Sounds like you guys want to play Titanfall 2.
Yeah, lets play Apex LEGENDS, but without the Legends!
At what point do they just need to make a different game?
Why are you gatekeeping? No one is asking for an insane number of splits, just reasonable, meaningful additions that could add more to the game. I want Apex Legends, which is based on Titanfall, to have a Solos mode that would inherently be faster.
So you're just randomly coming up with some scenario in your head that they'll add more than 3 modes when we're FINALLY getting a permanent third mode over a whole year later? Until we actually get more than 5 modes then by all means complain about the community being fragmented when we can actually see how bad the load times get.
The identity of Apex is completely Titanfall based and you think it's weird that they could possibly add pilots or a mech as a special playlist? We've been getting guns and references from TF the entire time. Is there a particular reason why dummies and or pilots wouldn't be considered "legends"? They literally would have their own unique abilities and ults specifically for solos. They could be the most barebone abilities that wouldn't help in team play in ANY way and people itt will still prefer it because we don't wanna play with randoms. Nobody plays TF2 anymore because...it's not BR, the player count is low and...there's no solos.
If you want your team play then que into team play. I'm sure you'll find plenty of like minded players that prefer that.
It's a great game and it's even getting better. I like they adding a (new/old) mode permanently.
The problem with trios is that as soon as I play with a buddy and the third guy decides to go wherever the fuck he wants and drops with all the other squads and wants to gamble away the round, we practically may decide: a) go with him and take the gamble, which means the round can be over in 30 sec, or b) fuck him, drop somewhere else and safe but play the rest of the round 2vs3 in many cases. Either way, our odds are screwed just because one dude decides for his own and the whole squad without consideration.
Or when the third guy dictates where to go by simply marching off and you stick with him not because it's a wise way or a good locations he's running to but because you don't want your odds going from shite to utter shite.
I still enjoy trios and playing with randoms most of the time. Yet I really like to have the option to just play with my buddy and don't have to care about anyone else.
The problem with trios is that as soon as I play with a buddy and the third guy decides to go wherever the fuck he wants and drops with all the other squads and wants to gamble away the round, we practically may decide: a) go with him and take the gamble, which means the round can be over in 30 sec, or b) fuck him, drop somewhere else and safe but play the rest of the round 2vs3 in many cases. Either way, our odds are screwed just because one dude decides for his own and the whole squad without consideration.
Or when the third guy dictates where to go by simply marching off and you stick with him not because it's a wise way or a good locations he's running to but because you don't want your odds going from shite to utter shite.
I still enjoy trios and playing with randoms most of the time. Yet I really like to have the option to just play with my buddy and don't have to care about anyone else.
Honestly, this doesn't sound exciting to me one bit.
Getting instant kills and blitzing through the map seems like a warzone thing except for tweaking the respawn formula (I feel the time limit isn't necessary but it adds to gameplay) I'd rather not have any of that in the game.
How does a duos queue affect the identity? The gameplay and mechanics are still the same.
Fair point.
As someone who plays solo and with a buddy sometimes, it's a mixed bag for me.
There are times when I end up with a two man party (ps4 party) that will decide to forgo communication with me entirely, I could be jump master and they both decide to drop solo without even giving me a heads up on where to drop, some will drop in the same area get into a fight get downed and start pinging crazy.
Or when they decide to land in scanty loot area (trainyard or mirage) to get quick kills or most of the time get killed themselves then just back out immediately.
Why does it matter if it does if that in turn lets more people enjoy it?
They aren't stripping away the other modes. In games that require coordination and team work to be successful consistently having team mates you cant do that with is frustrating. Some people want more options.
Really liked apex for a long time, but took a break and then they said it would come to steam early 2020. It's April and no signs of it. And now Warzone is out and more fun. so not sure if I'll go back or not. Duo's is cool though since I only have 1 friend to play with, hopefully Warzone adds a perma duo mode as well.
oh wow i didn't know they added it at all. this is big news for me
So they still don't want to add a solo mode... guess I'm not coming back just yet.
You guys don't have to stop playing 3vs3. I swear, some of you just hate options.
You guys don't have to stop playing 3vs3. I swear, some of you just hate options.
Have you had any problem finding a match? Matchmaking for me only takes about 10 seconds tops. I think they can afford to fragment the playerbase to allow for some player choice.
Time to reinstall. It absolutely sucked that I couldn't play with my friend since the third random person would never survive more than three minutes and if they did then it'd be on the other side of the map.
Some people love gatekeeping so much, it's embarrassing.
Insta killed as in u dont get downed, u just die.
you still have high ttk
The poster you're speaking to specifically is saying they have one other buddy they play with (i.e. talk with in party chat and coordinate with), and having a random third wheel is killing their enjoyment.
Duos is something that has been requested by the community for a long time, and has been popular as a LTM previously.
Coordinated teams of 2 makes for quite a different dynamic than 3. It's much tighter. You have to pick your battles more carefully, because being 3rd partied is much more dangerous when there's one man less watching your back.
that what keeps me playing when I plays BR and it's 30-45 mins long and I get 1-2 kills per game because everyone is campy I lose interest. Having 8-9 kills per game make me feel so much better even if I lose! This is why I lived titanfall even if I sucked I felt like I did something kills bots etc...
Basically all this, but especially the bolded. I really hope Respawn is working on something like this behind the scenes.
Cod and Warzones mentality in a nut shell is basically to hold your hand and try and help you win. If you die? So what have fun at the Gulag and have another chance! your friends can bring you back with money! There's only one way up this building so just camp the stairs and aim down sight with a shotgun! Here, buy your loadout so you can go back to your comfortable safe space mentality!
Every. Single. Thing. In Warzone is designed to help casuals win. This is why you hear people on here, on Reddit, in real life say how they have more fun on Warzone because they 'can get loads of kills,' without realising the game has such a low TTK, and the game is designed to give the 'camper' the advantage. It's genius really when you think about it.
Now I have over 1,100 wins on Apex so what I'm going to say below I believe I have a strong opinion on it:
Now Respawn must be worried. They must be seeing their numbers drop. Because simply put, Apex is the damn opposite of a casual BR. It's by nature very competitive, which is very cool and all, my friends who are Cod vets and can drop 30/40 kills in Cod can't get 1 or 2 kills in Apex, because the game forces you to think outside the box. Anyone can flank and be anywhere, you can't kill your enemies in 3 bullets, even if you got lucky you've got their 2 squamates right behind them, you can't camp the stairs because there's 4 different ways to get into that building. You can't buy your loadout, you have to scavenge and fight a team with a good loadout with your crappy guns and win out of skill.
It's a very different beast and in my opinion is actually Apex downfall. The game is TOO competitive that the skill gap is so huge that the developers had to implement very very strong skill based matchmaking. So much that all the pros and top 10% of players are ALWAYS playing against each other. Otherwise a single squad can roll into a casual lobby and not just do good, but absolutely massacre the whole lobby.
So what now? I genuinely believe that Respawn are slowly losing the casual playerbase to Warzone and other games, which means even more stricter SBMM, which means an even more tougher experience for the people who had to 'get gud', this is why they're implementing Duos, after being adamant about not adding it for a whole year, anyways saying it will split up the playerbase, it's not how the game is intended to be played etc etc etc. Warzone has forced their hand to fix up. And this is why competition is a beautiful thing.
Every. Single. Thing. In Warzone is designed to help casuals win. This is why you hear people on here, on Reddit, in real life say how they have more fun on Warzone because they 'can get loads of kills,' without realising the game has such a low TTK, and the game is designed to give the 'camper' the advantage. It's genius really when you think about it.
Now I have over 1,100 wins on Apex so what I'm going to say below I believe I have a strong opinion on it:
Now Respawn must be worried. They must be seeing their numbers drop. Because simply put, Apex is the damn opposite of a casual BR. It's by nature very competitive, which is very cool and all, my friends who are Cod vets and can drop 30/40 kills in Cod can't get 1 or 2 kills in Apex, because the game forces you to think outside the box. Anyone can flank and be anywhere, you can't kill your enemies in 3 bullets, even if you got lucky you've got their 2 squamates right behind them, you can't camp the stairs because there's 4 different ways to get into that building. You can't buy your loadout, you have to scavenge and fight a team with a good loadout with your crappy guns and win out of skill.
It's a very different beast and in my opinion is actually Apex downfall. The game is TOO competitive that the skill gap is so huge that the developers had to implement very very strong skill based matchmaking. So much that all the pros and top 10% of players are ALWAYS playing against each other. Otherwise a single squad can roll into a casual lobby and not just do good, but absolutely massacre the whole lobby.
So what now? I genuinely believe that Respawn are slowly losing the casual playerbase to Warzone and other games, which means even more stricter SBMM, which means an even more tougher experience for the people who had to 'get gud', this is why they're implementing Duos, after being adamant about not adding it for a whole year, anyways saying it will split up the playerbase, it's not how the game is intended to be played etc etc etc. Warzone has forced their hand to fix up. And this is why competition is a beautiful thing.
i occasionally play an overwatch clone on my phone that has a br mode that works exactly like this (start off as a generic soldier, can pick up the main mode heroes as powerups out on the map) & its pretty neat. wouldnt mind playing an apex version of it
Adding Titans in the game would ruin it. Even the Respawn devs said it would ruin the balance of the game.
Also, they tried wall running in this game but it made the game too unpredictable. That's the reason why Titanfall lost its casual playerbase in 3 months, because 'skill-full' abilities like wallrunning is simply too complex for casuals. Now just imagine 60 people doing it on a map.
Not only that, just imagine 60 really skill-full players doing it.
Also, they tried wall running in this game but it made the game too unpredictable. That's the reason why Titanfall lost its casual playerbase in 3 months, because 'skill-full' abilities like wallrunning is simply too complex for casuals. Now just imagine 60 people doing it on a map.
Not only that, just imagine 60 really skill-full players doing it.
My brother an I might pick this up again. We got tired of having to either babysit a random kid, or babysit a random adult with anger management issues.
Our best games were the ones where our third ran off on their own.
Our best games were the ones where our third ran off on their own.
One of the strenghts of Apex is it's teamwork focus. Yeah, not always you get good teammates, but in solos you will not always get good lood, etc. I rather have duos and trios than solos. I really don't care about Solos BR
It really feels like people saying "solos won't work it's a team-based game!!!!" probably were not playing the game when solos was actually live. For me that was easily the time in which I enjoyed the game the most, other than the launch window where I actually had people I know to play the game with.
Duos is awesome and I am glad we are also getting map rotation. But I would LOVE to see solos worked into the game as well. Even as it was during the Iron Crown event.
Yeah yeah, "you can play other games if you want a solo experience", but Respawn has IMO the best FPS gameplay on the market right now, so, I WISH I could play Apex in solos. And many feel the same.
Also see a lot of people saying that duos is not good for the game as well. Also must be people who don't play much I reckon. A ton of the remaining player base is probably filled with folks who only have 1 other friend to play with. If you queue into trios, you'll get a dumb random who won't play the team and who will actively try to fuck your game over, or worse, just get themselves killed within seconds. You're then left to 2v3 the lobby. Being outnumbered at all times fucking sucks, especially in a game that has a high TTK and lots of mobility options.
Duos is awesome and I am glad we are also getting map rotation. But I would LOVE to see solos worked into the game as well. Even as it was during the Iron Crown event.
Yeah yeah, "you can play other games if you want a solo experience", but Respawn has IMO the best FPS gameplay on the market right now, so, I WISH I could play Apex in solos. And many feel the same.
Also see a lot of people saying that duos is not good for the game as well. Also must be people who don't play much I reckon. A ton of the remaining player base is probably filled with folks who only have 1 other friend to play with. If you queue into trios, you'll get a dumb random who won't play the team and who will actively try to fuck your game over, or worse, just get themselves killed within seconds. You're then left to 2v3 the lobby. Being outnumbered at all times fucking sucks, especially in a game that has a high TTK and lots of mobility options.
I can't ever see them adding solos permanently unless the game really tanks and they are desperate.
Duos is the right way to go as it try's to split the difference. It means the chance of one less idiot on your team but if your Duos team mate does turn out to be a potato, going 1v2 against another team is way more manageable than 1v3
Duos is the right way to go as it try's to split the difference. It means the chance of one less idiot on your team but if your Duos team mate does turn out to be a potato, going 1v2 against another team is way more manageable than 1v3
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Permanent duos is freaking great! Makes it so when you get third partied much more manageable and the game still has that teamwork vibe, when you got a good squad with you. My only problem with solos, is that it's just a bunch of Pathfinders and wraiths running around the map and it makes it a bit generic for me.
