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Dog of Bork

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Oct 25, 2017
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Don't know for sure but I don't think anyone really cares about what happened to this actual guy, only think people are worried about the principle. If everyone punches someone who insults them then lots of people die etc.
And maybe at the end of this people stop tossing around the n word.

Like, this isn't just a run-of-the-mill insult. This is one of the worst single words a person can say to a black person.

I think the slippery slope is goofy as hell
 

Ketch

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Oct 25, 2017
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Alternate thread title: Racist sex offender finally gets punched once and then dies like a frail bitch.
 

ɣGammaɣ

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Well then there should be additional legal recourses for black people having to deal with these situations and consequences for racists who cause them so it never becomes a problem again. Whether you want to admit it or not, racial violence is still violence, was perpetuated against an innocent black man, and he defended himself with physical violence due to having no other recourse outside becoming even more of a victim. The racist who died also being a convicted child predator is just the cherry on top.

It's not a good situation, but it was one of the best possible outcomes given what transpired. House arrest does suck (you basically have an ankle tracker or something similar on you so you have to stick to work/home/school/food stores and the like and everything else is off limits without prior verification, for whoever doesn't know) but he is alive and hopefully well.

There should be and is very much needed when i read some of the stories here, agree with that. Just the physical violence part is just wrong for me.
 

Nepenthe

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I can imagine some of y'all back in the day. "Yeah, I get the whole slavery thing, but... did they need to KILL their slave master when he was sleeping? He had no chance to defend himself, and I just can't get with attacking someone without justification. If they had waited until he was beating someone, I would understand better."
 

gozu

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Oct 27, 2017
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i know it's probably gonna be an unpopular opinion here, but just... regardless how vile someone is, if they don't attack you, don't punch people, even if they don't fall, one punch can kill someone depending on how it lands

not only you risk killing someone, but you will also likely face charges for doing so cause it's not self-defense (yes, words hurt, but you wouldn't pull out a gun on someone for saying hurtful,racists shit right? Well you should do the same with punching, just don't do it, it's not worh it ruining your life for this)

i'm surprised they didn't throw the book at him, it's certainly an exception to the rule... i'm glad he got free though, when you have to deal with racist people all day, i understand why they would get fed up in the end and punch someone... but this kind of stuff never leads to anything good, so yeah, don't do it
If someone calls you the N-word, twice, you're entitled to punch them in my opinion. Some things, you just don't say twice to people and expect them to retain control.

The dunkin donut manager should have gotten no punishment at all.
 

Karateka

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I can imagine some of y'all back in the day. "Yeah, I get the whole slavery thing, but... did they need to KILL their slave master when he was sleeping? He had no chance to defend himself, and I just can't get with attacking someone without justification. If they had waited until he was beating someone, I would understand better."
Is the thought here that any insult that weaponizes power differential is inherently violent? Or is it specifically related to the history of the word
 

The Adder

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Oct 25, 2017
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I couldn't have rolled my eyes harder when you in an open forum of discussion asked "You black?". Hey but you do you. I'm sure in the 13,000 posts/replies you have racked up since you joined you certainly had opinions and thoughts about exclusively and only black issues. Give me a break.
I'm just gonna say straight up that you're a self important, self righteous, know nothing dumbfuck.
 

Order

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I couldn't have rolled my eyes harder when you in an open forum of discussion asked "You black?". Hey but you do you. I'm sure in the 13,000 posts/replies you have racked up since you joined you certainly had opinions and thoughts about exclusively and only black issues. Give me a break.
nigga shut up
 

Nepenthe

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Is the thought here that any insult that weaponizes power differential is inherently violent? Or is it specifically related to the history of the word
You are going to have to ask other minorities about how they feel about the slurs created by whites and dedicated specifically to them. I'm Black, and this is a topic about the word n-word; specifically, it is yet another discussion of people doing their best to try and tell us why a word they won't usually type out all the way is equivalent to any other playground insult and thus never warrants a physical response, and how the Blacks should conduct themselves more nicely in the face of that level of racial violence.
 

Gaia Lanzer

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Well, this racist guy doesn't anymore lol
Was gonna say that! A part of me wonders if the defense force is "defense forcing" because they have loved ones (friends or family members, as many threads have shined a light on this) like that racist guy, so naturally, they feel an obligation to defend them in spirit. In their subconscious, they aren't defending this racist pedo, they are asking, "What if that was MY dad? What if that was my grandpa? What if that was my brother? What if that was my childhood friend?" The death of the racist perv wasn't intentional (the punch was), but if your loved ones are that horrible, maybe they deserve to get knocked out! Mine do, and I'm not even white!
 

Nepenthe

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Was gonna say that! A part of me wonders if the defense force is "defense forcing" because they have loved ones (friends or family members, as many threads have shined a light on this) like that racist guy, so naturally, they feel an obligation to defend them in spirit.
It is commonly that. Like we're supposed to care that their Nana Ruth gave them a slice of cake and a pat on the head before she went on down to the local lynching.
 

Gay Bowser

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Oct 30, 2017
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I couldn't have rolled my eyes harder when you in an open forum of discussion asked "You black?". Hey but you do you. I'm sure in the 13,000 posts/replies you have racked up since you joined you certainly had opinions and thoughts about exclusively and only black issues. Give me a break.
what even is this post

if you're going to talk about how black people should respond to being called a n*gger, your race actually is relevant

nobody is saying that the black people in this thread only talk about "exclusively and only black issues," just that people who aren't black should maybe not tell black people how they should feel about black issues

this isn't hard
 

Skittles

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Oct 25, 2017
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The manager after clocking this cracker:

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PaulloDEC

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Racists should learn to shut the fuck up. Dude wasn't in the wrong for punching him. The fact that he died should be blamed on all the booze he was drinking that fucked his balance up. Either way good riddance.

Don't disagree with any of that. When I say that people need to think carefully about throwing a punch, I'm talking about for their own sake.

And dude's life is ruined. He has a felony assault conviction on his record. He's now sentenced to a life of poverty.

Fair call. I'm glad he won't be facing prison time, at least. What little consolation that is.
 

lvl 99 Pixel

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Oct 25, 2017
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Really though its hard to feel bad for people who don't value human life ceasing to be. Drunk sex offender starts shit and falls on his head....
 
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Dekim

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Oct 28, 2017
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Heard this guy was a sex offender as well. So we got an old, white, racist sex offender off the streets? This manager deserves a medal.
 

krazen

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Is the thought here that any insult that weaponizes power differential is inherently violent? Or is it specifically related to the history of the word

I mean, you can't remove the history of the world
though. We are talking about a person who, by the nature of being a white American, could have had family that owned slaves. People view the N word as just a generic bad word where when I get called it I know its about a white person putting me in place beneath them.

That said, its a moot point because I firmly believe that the odds he's throwing that n word around and NOT leveraging racist powers in other ways, quite low. Not as if racists keep it to just the n word with no other fucked up oppression they can do in the system. (calling cops on black neighbors, sabatoging black co-workers/employees, using the slur on a child, etc).

Kinda hard to be a good person and at the same time run into a store screaming the n word at someone trying to help you. Humans are complex, but lol…no.
 

Nepenthe

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That said, its a moot point because I firmly believe that the odds he's throwing that n word around and NOT leveraging racist powers in other ways, quite low. Not as if racists keep it to just the n word with no other fucked up oppression they can do in the system.
This is a salient point. If a white is throwing around the n-word, he's not just stopping there. Hell, he's not just stopping at Black people. "Yeah, I can't stand the fucking Blacks, but Mexicans are a wonderful, culturally rich people." No, this shit doesn't happen.
 

Ra

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This acronym does not unify you with Black issues or give you the right to overstep your bounds.

We really need to stop it with "as a PoC myself.." as an excuse to talk down to Black people on the shit they live every day. No, you do not relate or have ANY idea what it is like to be hated by the entire world.
 

AniHawk

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Oct 25, 2017
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my thoughts go out to the manager and i hope his hand recovered quickly.
 

Mekanos

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Honestly I'm just thankful they didn't throw the manager in prison for life, I guess two year house arrest isn't terrible in comparison. I cannot say I will lose any sleep over this piece of shit getting punched and dying.
 

Karateka

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I mean, you can't remove the history of the world
though. We are talking about a person who, by the nature of being a white American, could have had family that owned slaves. People view the N word as just a generic bad word where when I get called it I know its about a white person putting me in place beneath them.

That said, its a moot point because I firmly believe that the odds he's throwing that n word around and NOT leveraging racist powers in other ways, quite low. Not as if racists keep it to just the n word with no other fucked up oppression they can do in the system. (calling cops on black neighbors, sabatoging black co-workers/employees, using the slur on a child, etc).

Kinda hard to be a good person and at the same time run into a store screaming the n word at someone trying to help you. Humans are complex, but lol…no.
I'm sure he's a bad guy. Good people don't go around doing stuff like that even on bad days. I was just trying to understand when an insult becomes an assault, and if there are other variants.
In theory, at least, the nature of a person is irrelevant when assessing the morality of an act (ie if one kills a bad person for no reason it is still a bad action but if one kills an otherwise amazing person in self defense the act may be morally justifiable).
You gave good example of ways coercive violence could be used, I would say those would warrant a physical reaction. If you call the police on your neighbours for no reason for example, hoping they get shot or even just hoping to scare them I to thinking that, surely you deserve a punch to the face even if there is no legal basis for it.
 

Mekanos

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Police said Cook enticed teen boys into his home with comic books, video games and candy. He then used the boys for his pornographic fantasies, including filming himself performing sex acts with a 16-year-old boy, police said.

Okay yeah this manager is a hero as far as I'm concerned even if he didn't know it at the time. Fuck this evil piece of shit.
 

Tsumami

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A black man punched a white old racist in the head, he died, and the black man only got house arrest? In FLORIDA??? Did my man have Saul Goodman as his lawyer because wtf

No sympathy for the dead racist
 

Kenai

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Oct 26, 2017
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There should be and is very much needed when i read some of the stories here, agree with that. Just the physical violence part is just wrong for me.

When the people in charge of the US (white people) have had literally hundreds of years to enact such policy and don't (among various other things, from declaring white supremacist groups as terrorist organizations, to removing racist Confederate monuments, to dealing with systemic racism baked into businesses throughout the country and in government), black people cannot expect any sort of actual justice here. They have to take care of themselves because they can't expect anyone else to. Showing weakness in the face of this type of behavior often leads to it occuring again. It can lead to escalation. This POS could have easily come back with a gun. Followed him home. It's Florida.

This is quite likely the only sort of accountability that dead pos ever faced for his behavior, despite the fact that the term is so loaded with all of the worst things humanity has to offer and for black people to deal with. Despite all of the other terrible things he probably did that are just part of the norm. So the actions of a desperate man defending himself are not something I am ever going to tone police.
 
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I can imagine some of y'all back in the day. "Yeah, I get the whole slavery thing, but... did they need to KILL their slave master when he was sleeping? He had no chance to defend himself, and I just can't get with attacking someone without justification. If they had waited until he was beating someone, I would understand better."
Every time a racist gets theirs, always gotta be a pearl clutchin somebody in one of these threads asking us to think/worry/feel bad for them while focusing on the wrong shit.

It never ends. Honestly think brown and black folk getting racially harassed functions as a spectator sport fetish for some who get enjoyment out of parsing shit and obfuscating their actual feelings/intentions.
 

Dynedom

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Really don't understand why non-black POCs constantly have the need to police empathy on black issues. You either show empathy or stay in your lane. I say this as a South Asian myself.
 

Mekanos

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Really don't understand why non-black POCs constantly have the need to police topics on black issues. Show empathy or stay in your lane. I say this as a South Asian myself.
I don't consider myself a violent person by any means but if someone called me a kike over and over, well, being 6'2'' just might come in handy.
 

Tsumami

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I will say while I said I don't feel bad the racist fuck died I hope my dude that punched him doesn't feel bad. Idk about anyone else but if I punched someone because they were a piece of shit and that ended up accidentally killing them I think that might sit with me for a min, but that's just me personally.
 

shintoki

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Oct 25, 2017
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Same thing in everyone of these threads.

Should he have hit him? Probably not.
Should the old man shut his mouth? Absolutely.
Is it deserved? Yes, if you're going to run your mouth and someone smacks you. I'm not going to go lecture him about not hitting, but asking if you learned your lesson. He learned his the hard way.
 

TaySan

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Same thing in everyone of these threads.

Should he have hit him? Probably not.
Should the old man shut his mouth? Absolutely.
Is it deserved? Yes, if you're going to run your mouth and someone smacks you. I'm not going to go lecture him about not hitting, but rather asking you if you learned your lesson about playing stupid games. He learned his the hard way.
This. While I don't necessarily condone the violence I won't lose sleep over a racist pos.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Same thing in everyone of these threads.

Should he have hit him? Probably not.
Should the old man shut his mouth? Absolutely.
Is it deserved? Yes, if you're going to run your mouth and someone smacks you. I'm not going to go lecture him about not hitting, but asking if you learned your lesson. He learned his the hard way.
Not the MMA fighter thread.

Dude was bothering other dude(and black patron) all night and then mouthed off and flinched at him and got decked and people acted like the drunk douchebag was the victim.

But yeah, cause and effect.

Shouldn't have done it but wouldn't have happened if one guy didn't start it.
 

loco

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Old racist pedo man got off easy. I think all child molesters should be castrated and in some cases put to death.