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Dungeons & Dragons: Dark Alliance Announced
- Thread starter Jawmuncher
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The trailer was magical.
Hopefully they'll have some proper RPG elements, because it's just sounding like a co-op Demon Stone so far, which I was always kinda eh about.
Hopefully they'll have some proper RPG elements, because it's just sounding like a co-op Demon Stone so far, which I was always kinda eh about.
Lol, fuck.
I heard about it but apparently haven't processed that it's actually happening
Oh wow, I was actually hyped there was a new Dark Alliance game. Then I read about what they're going to do with it and all my initial hype just died down. 3rd person, hardly any RPG elements? In a time when there are great isometric ARPGs, Grim Dawn, Path of Exile, to name but two, they could've added so much to it.
They're calling it a spiritual successor to the original Dark Alliance games, but they might as well have used a completely original name and that way created a new IP. From what I've read, this is anything but, and it's simply using the Dark Alliance name to try and pull one over on those who have been vocal about wanting a new DA game for years.
So yeah, bit disappointed. Plus, from the reactions here, I gathered that the trailer didn't help either.
They're calling it a spiritual successor to the original Dark Alliance games, but they might as well have used a completely original name and that way created a new IP. From what I've read, this is anything but, and it's simply using the Dark Alliance name to try and pull one over on those who have been vocal about wanting a new DA game for years.
So yeah, bit disappointed. Plus, from the reactions here, I gathered that the trailer didn't help either.
I've got both Dark Alliance games and the 2 EQ ones that are akin to them as well. Still lots of fun!
To look at it another way: there already are great isometric ARPGs, why not have one in third person? The old Dark Alliance games were very button mashy anyway, I don't see how 3rd person couldn't do it the same way or even better. For one, model quality will be prioritized more since they will be right in your face.
About the RPG elements part I'm with ya. I can't imagine there won't be any active skills to spice up combat, but I wonder about looting and leveling.
I loved Dark Alliance because of the isometric view. It had fast combat, awesome graphics for the time (the water blew my mind when I first saw it move like that), fun with physics, and it was just very enjoyable. Going 3rd person fundamentally alters the gameplay. It might work, but I have a feeling it's going to throw away that what made the DA games so much fun.
The change in perspective is definitely disappointing, I always found the Snowblind Engine games to feel more like top-down Zelda games (albeit with a shitload of loot and no puzzles) than Diablo and it's many many many clones. Switching to a third person view will definitely make them feel less like dungeon crawlers, but I'm willing to give it a shot.
Stripping out the RPG elements, however, I think is being misread by most people here. The Dark Alliance games didn't have a lot of RPG elements to begin with; stats didn't matter much, it was mostly skills and weapons (for example, in the first game there's no reason for the Sorceress not to be in heavy armor and fighting in melee range). There wasn't any character interaction beyond NPC exposition so actual "role playing" was never a factor either.
What I hope the developer is going for here is more emphasis on action and less on stats. Maybe they just didn't explain it well, I'll wait until we see some actual gameplay but I'm definitely wary of the game now when it should have been a slam dunk.
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I mean, I'm interested in a new Dark Alliance game but...man, that trailer was woefully bad. I'm going to try and pretend I never saw it and wait for game play footage.
Who....came up with this and thought this was a good idea?
"You know what people like!? Really hilariously looking stiff go-pro angles looking at people's faces!"
So glad I am not the first one who thought of Sir Digby Chicken Ceasar.
"You know what people like!? Really hilariously looking stiff go-pro angles looking at people's faces!"
Drun drun drun drun drun dudududuuuuuduuuuududu!
So glad I am not the first one who thought of Sir Digby Chicken Ceasar.
Who's developing this? What consoles is it on? Did they seriously just announce a co-op D&D RPG with a CG trailer and no details?
C'mon, WotC.
C'mon, WotC.
Modern RPG. Look at how Mass Effect,Dragon Age, etc. Heck even Final Fantsy, stripped to the gills of RPG stuff in favor of keeping it simple for the masses.
It was instantaneous, as soon as the camera spun around.
That's some Sir Digby shit.
This looked kind of shite. Almost terribly so. But the last few seconds seem to reveal a good game hiding behind a truly bizarre trailer, so we'll see. Certainly isn't what I imagined a Companions of the Hall game to look like.
Also not really feeling Wulfgar's look; gimme the traditional depiction please.
Wonder when this game's supposed to take place, as well, since Wulfgar and Catti-brie have long since passed and been reincarnated as basically new people in current D&D lore
Also not really feeling Wulfgar's look; gimme the traditional depiction please.
Wonder when this game's supposed to take place, as well, since Wulfgar and Catti-brie have long since passed and been reincarnated as basically new people in current D&D lore
Trailer was absolutely terrible, but that doesn't change the fact that I am excited for this and hope it's good.
There were never many RPG elements in the Dark Alliance games to begin with.
So are Dark Alliance games strictly hack and slash games, or are there deeper RPG mechanics? I would expect a modern game based on D&D to maybe have things like dialogue options, or maybe non-combat options for dealing with enemies, or is this just an Action RPG with an emphasis on the Action?
Dark Alliance games are strictly hack and slash games. Think Diablo, basically.
I don't think what that poster is saying is strictly true. Dark Alliance games have both dialogue options and pretty robust character building elements.
Wait, has there been a gameplay trailer? I thought what they showed was prerendered stuff.
So the gameplay is nothing like the Snowblind games?
So the gameplay is nothing like the Snowblind games?
Yup. Dark Alliance and the Champions of Norrath games had awesome skill trees. I don't think Diablo 3 compares to them in that regard.
Dreadful damn trailer. Thought everything looked very generic mmo like models and armour and shit.
Would have been better with some gameplay I think, felt like a cheap imitation for a high octane, cinematic, Blizzard trailers but with a really bland snow background, terrible cinematography choices, all the different models from goblins to shields just looked so boring.
Hoping it's just the game isn't supposed to be played at that perspective and everything looks better top down and it's fun to play but man what a dreadful way to show it.
Would have been better with some gameplay I think, felt like a cheap imitation for a high octane, cinematic, Blizzard trailers but with a really bland snow background, terrible cinematography choices, all the different models from goblins to shields just looked so boring.
Hoping it's just the game isn't supposed to be played at that perspective and everything looks better top down and it's fun to play but man what a dreadful way to show it.
Robust character building elements - sure, it's D&D. Dialogue options, well, not really. The entire game is linear and your choices have no impact whatsoever, unlike traditional cRPGs.
So wait they are stripping out the rpg stuff? I can work with a third person hack and slash but why? It isn't even D&D at that point let alone Deadly Alliance. Why even use the name?