Now imagine what people can make in Dreams, a tool a thousand times more versatile and complex. Going from 2.5D to 3D alone is a huge undertaking.
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Dreams Closed Beta Arrives Weds December 19th for MM Newsletter Followers (not for new signups). General Public Allowed Access Jan 8th
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I do Motion Graphics as a side gig. Many of the things I've seen of this - Emitters, motion paths, Randomisers - are common tool in that world. Can't wait to get stuck in.
How old are you, 5?
My 5 year old son doesn't have tantrums like this, grow up.
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if they are used to LBP. they can still mimick that since you can set the tool to "stay upright" and on a grid. and lock things to an axis. so it'll feel like home.
How many people are going to break this, get banned, and throw a tantrum?
Jesus, some of these posts belong in the cringe thread.
The level of entitlement is staggering.
The level of entitlement is staggering.
exactly. i was banking on the holidays to get my teeth into this. no free time on january, really, since everyone resets and gets back to the grind.
dude, it would have been better if they were very clear about it from the get-go. like a lot of people out there, i've been waiting for the beta since last year (when they said the beta is coming this year). how hard is it to tweet out that we have to be subscribed to the newsletter to get into the beta? it's such a disservice to those who waited and waited for all of 2018 for them to release the beta 12 days before 2019...only to be told that we should have subscibed to the newsletter and worse, that we should have subbed before they said we should have subbed.
i mean, is it just me who has a problem with how they communicated with this? everyone's been waiting for more than a year to get into what they said was a public beta only to be told that you can't get in and they had all year to tell us how to get in but they chose not to disclose that? like...wth...of course i'd be upset at that kind of communication.
I'm so glad this is finally happening. I won't be in the beta, I'm happy to wait until the full release to create my Dreams with the tested product. Even if that's after January.
Use some common sense dude. If they announced ahead of time that you have to be signed up to the newsletter for access to the closed (key word closed) beta, then the next thing you know, tens if not hundreds of thousands of extra people sign up and get access to the closed beta, thus defeating the point of a closed beta which in this case is likely to stress test servers and functionality on a much smaller scale, before the larger scale public beta. This way, if shit goes wrong, far fewer people have a miserable first experience with the game whilst they iron out the kinks.
Mm obviously know exactly how many people are signed up to their newsletter, and likely decided close to that number of people was ideal for their initial closed beta testing.
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See, the problem is that is the standard for alphas and beta, announce its coming, announce how to sign up in advance and give everyone a shot.
Instead this is basically saying "OH YOU MISSED IT ALREADY TOO BAD"
It is a poor way to do a closed beta and is not the norm, it should have been made clear in advance and everyone should have had a chance to sign up and get a chance for a spot. Don't hype and tease a stream that is for the beta just for it to be this restrictive.
It is MM who is lacking common sense here.
They can still go with as many people as they like even with a basic sign up.
No not this.
Just do an even chance sign up like every other closed alpha/beta out there and then internally choose your number etc.
See: the Anthem closed alpha
ah so just get people's hopes up, or knowingly omit a very vital information and just advertise a beta is coming for more than a year? yeah, sure. i mean if we are talking about common sense then isn't it common sense to communicate with people who are eagerly awaiting for your game instead of slyly circumventing the legalese of your "coming 2018" marketing only to slap a huge asterisk on it when you decided you were gonna go-live? i mean if this were the new battlefield's beta and they say you'd have to be subbed to their newsletter to get in and they never said a lick before they went live, pretty sure people would have been dogpiling on them already. mm had all year to communicate what needed to be done to get into the beta but they chose not to, and when they did it was already closed - rendering it useless. it's just infuriating, that's all.
was it so hard to tweet - hey sub on the newsletter to get into the beta - and from there we pick 5,000 people. i mean, was that so hard? instead we got it's coming yes we promise it's coming it's coming. and now yey it's coming tomorrow but no you can't get in sorry. like wth.
They repeatedly promised the open beta in 2018 for ages, it was postponed, delayed, etc. and now isn't even coming in 2018 at all.
You completely and utterly missed the point of my post. Like spectacularly. Read it again and let the actual point sink in.
Also, the usual way closed beta's are done is through random invitations only, through pre-orders bonuses, luck based raffles and things of that nature. The way Mm have decided to do it is far better imo.
i have a four year old who knows not to throw tantrums like this.
Dude, not only have you also spectacularly missed the point of my post similar to the poster above (I'm starting to see a trend), but you continue to sound unbelievably entitled and whingey. Fair enough you're disappointed, but understand that it's not some sort of intended personal slight, shit happens in video game development and life in general. Stuff gets delayed, things don't go according to time scales or schedules and so on. Thank fuck this game isn't cancelled and is still being made after all these years. Countless people didn't even think they'd deliver on a Beta at all!
If they did it that way I can easily foresee where you would throw your next entitled tantrum.
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yeah and where is that, smartass?
I fully understand your post thanks.
Pre-order bonuses are never this level of closed alpha/beta.
And yes, random invitations is how it should be, luck based and giving everyone an even chance. Are you so entrenched in your opinion you can't even understand this?
Feel free to go to the Dreams subreddit to see how this has upset the entire community, once again because of broken promises and not making this clear to anyone in advance. I don't subscribe to newsletters for my own reasons, so it isn't inclusive either.
ehhh...i was anticipating it big time but this was such a letdown. literally a slap in the face to be told that i can't be in a beta i've been waiting on since last year and they communicated it so shittily this time around.
Yes they did.
https://www.dualshockers.com/dreams-beta-2018-media-molecule/
Feel free to find any other sources.
Where you would not be among the selected, because the chance would be very small.
Dreams would be getting a public beta
If you define what they announced today as a public beta please (it has an NDA ffs) and this was taken directly from their own blog post less than a month ago.
Clearly it was delayed and they should have said that.
you really gonna sit here and stew in gamer rage because you have to wait a few more days to play a video game for free? Game development is incredibly difficult, and Dreams is one of the most complex and ambitious projects I've ever seen. Relax, play something else in the meantime, and chill with the entitlement. It makes us look worse as a community.
I think his point is that that's Dualshockers wording not MM's.
Who said I was filled with rage? Just assuming things?
Also, if entitlement is expecting a developer to do what they promised then no wonder this medium is getting so fucked.
Seems like the site added that in because the source of the post never mentions a public beta
https://www.mediamolecule.com/blog/article/kareems_dreams_stream_world_building_for_beta
Source for your link: https://www.mediamolecule.com/blog/article/kareems_dreams_stream_world_building_for_beta
Where did MM use public or open?
It sure doesn't mention a closed beta with NDA and basically no sign up or chance to sign up either.
The medium is not fucked because a beta is late. Do you think the kind folks at MM are deliberately lying to you, or do you think they want people to play Dreams just as badly as you want to play it? Get some perspective dude.
and that would have been fine with me because at least that was communicated properly and i knew there was a chance i wasn't gonna get in.
Right, they just mentioned beta, meaning it could be closed or open. But really it doesn't actually matter because it's the difference of like a measly 2 week wait between the two. Christ almighty just learn to be a bit patient. At least when we get to play it (I never signed up to the newsletter either) we'll have 2 weeks worth of new public made content to play with.