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"Sorry, I am not outraged over the cheating of some person on the internet."
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DrDisrespect's ELABORATE THOUGHTS on Mixer versus Twitch and Shroud's BIG MOVE
- Thread starter Gowans
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No, I have never cheated on my SO.
What I AM saying, however:
"Sorry, I am not outraged over the cheating of some person on the internet."
When a streamer becomes partnered with Twitch they're not allowed to stream anywhere else. So exclusive streaming is the standard in this case.
Wait, Ninja's contract to go stream on mixer is only for 2 years?
So claims DrD. (well, he talked about Shroud, but he probably got the same deal as Ninja.)
He also said he got offered himself.
And he isnt wrong here. Ninja went from upwards to 50k average viewers down to 9-10k on Mixer. Ninja better how he banked a lot of money. 2 years is a long time to slip to irrelevance.
What else is it in a thread that has nothing to do with cheating?
congratulations on being the first person in history to use drdisrespect and 'elaborate thoughts' in the same sentence.
Love when people make this excuse for everything he does
Dude can just do whatever the fuck he wants apparently and people will wave it off as him being "in character"
I agree with everything he said tbh.
Those acquisitions haven't made the impact I thought they would.
Those acquisitions haven't made the impact I thought they would.
Every person in the end has to do that they think is best for themselves so him giving his analysis on someone else's decision really doesn't mean much for me.
I don't watch much streaming myself but the only thing we can do is speculate on whether this deal is worth it or not, which entirely depends on what outcome do both parties (MS/Streamer) is looking to get out of it.
I don't think MS will have much trouble in the long term with Mixer as a platform due to having a console themselves, now they seem to want to expand on their PC footprint. Their store is still in beta and along with gamepass and some of these big name streamers will help get the ball rolling even more.
For a streamer I definitely see Mixer can be an option to consider, and for anyone in any job having options is best. I don't see why there would need to be negativity about that, mixer doesn't need to be the best, it just needs to be profitable, serve it's community and meet MS expectations whatever they are. Lots of these steamers popularity and livelihood seems to depend on the popularity of the game they play, which in itself can lower at any moment. Not to mention that we have no idea how these contracts work at all, especially when it comes to "unable to play" injuries, and compensation. And while this streamer talks viewership numbers having a direct impact on someone's branding, there is no telling just yet how MS will push the Ninja brand (or have an impact on it) until we have a reasonable amount of time with him there as a partner.
I don't watch much streaming myself but the only thing we can do is speculate on whether this deal is worth it or not, which entirely depends on what outcome do both parties (MS/Streamer) is looking to get out of it.
I don't think MS will have much trouble in the long term with Mixer as a platform due to having a console themselves, now they seem to want to expand on their PC footprint. Their store is still in beta and along with gamepass and some of these big name streamers will help get the ball rolling even more.
For a streamer I definitely see Mixer can be an option to consider, and for anyone in any job having options is best. I don't see why there would need to be negativity about that, mixer doesn't need to be the best, it just needs to be profitable, serve it's community and meet MS expectations whatever they are. Lots of these steamers popularity and livelihood seems to depend on the popularity of the game they play, which in itself can lower at any moment. Not to mention that we have no idea how these contracts work at all, especially when it comes to "unable to play" injuries, and compensation. And while this streamer talks viewership numbers having a direct impact on someone's branding, there is no telling just yet how MS will push the Ninja brand (or have an impact on it) until we have a reasonable amount of time with him there as a partner.
He's the only streamer I can imagine that would flat out say he is doing it for the money.
"why am I moving!?!!? for the MONEY AHAHAHAHAHAAHAH." Then he'll comb his mustache or something.
I disagree. If you're a big streamer on twitch and you stay while others take the money and leave, you move up the twitch ladder to become even bigger.
If you're in the top 15 or so on twitch, you're already making a lot of money.
I do wonder if Doc is being so vocal about anti mixer now - to raise his stock so mixer really pay a lot to get him to come over. Because then people will go "fuck if doc has been convinced things must actually be changing". Doc, Shroud and Summit are the only big streamers I enjoy. Shroud hasn't got me to load mixer up yet.
Also it's hilarious people here think xbox wouldn't want Doc on Mixer. Come the fuck on.
Also it's hilarious people here think xbox wouldn't want Doc on Mixer. Come the fuck on.
Docs viewership has gone up significantly since Shroud left. The numbers would have to be astronomical for him to leave. Like he mentioned in the video, the two platforms arent even close.
When Goth stopped streaming the other day on Mixer I wanted to check out who was streaming Hearthstone....ZERO people were streaming it.
Unless MS has way more power moves planned for Mixer, other than giving it its own Xbox Dashboard tab, its going to feel like these streamers are starting from scratch when they go back to Twitch when their contracts are up.
When Goth stopped streaming the other day on Mixer I wanted to check out who was streaming Hearthstone....ZERO people were streaming it.
Unless MS has way more power moves planned for Mixer, other than giving it its own Xbox Dashboard tab, its going to feel like these streamers are starting from scratch when they go back to Twitch when their contracts are up.
Yeah I'm sure it will feel like they're starting from scratch when they announce their returns to their millions of followers across social media / YouTube.
Ninja was down to around 20-25k when he left.
MS paid him for his social media presence and as someone to spearhead marketing on Halo PC / Halo Infinite in 2020.
Mixer has been doing interesting moves with the pickup for Ninja and Shroud. It's moreso the grab of huge names to get Mixer on even a few peoples radars. They also picked up Gothalion recently who's not on the same level but will probably be one of the spearheaders/pioneers for helping to grow a community on Mixer.
Ninja/Shroud are more like in the vein of exclusive programing and are for the purpose of publicity/some of their fanbase.
Overall i hope Mixer is successful with their plans as it'd be cool to see more competition and innovation.
Ninja/Shroud are more like in the vein of exclusive programing and are for the purpose of publicity/some of their fanbase.
Overall i hope Mixer is successful with their plans as it'd be cool to see more competition and innovation.
Maybe because his entire chat has probably been flooded with questions about it all week?
No. Going of just subs and donations its probably around $1million per year, plus any money they make getting paid to play new games. But its steady income, and they know they have an audience.
The ones taking a big check to go to mixer is probably them just cashing out to retire.
Let me guess. He's disappointed that Mixer won't cut him a massive check to stream video of teenagers in the bathroom?
That's why you have to "buy" or incentivize normal streamers to come to your platform. You need breadth, so that your viewers can watch other people from games they are interested in.
You're not allowed to stream on other sites if you're a Twitch partner though, so that wouldn't be possible.
It's pretty common, he frequently just talks to the champions club about day to day stuff all the time, those moments just can't be clipped and thrown on Twitter easily.
Mixer is taking the EGS approach- try to buy enough big-name streamers in order to get the audience. It's the only way you can really break in on a monopoly. I'm ok with it, because Twitch is not exactly the good guys here.
And it doesn't work. Viewership is down on Mixer since Ninja's move, while content creation even went up.
Such a strategy takes time and building of goodwill to make work. Ninja was smart to cash in though.