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Dragon Quest XI S launches on switch this fall. Orchestral music, 2D mode, new story, exclusive.
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First, yes the (popular) Wii versions of various 3rd party games such as COD did get shafted as well in the way I described. Second, I see you sort of accept the "flop" excuse (or at least describe it as different). Well, that's a double edged sword, because you need to realize that for SE, DQXI was a flop in the West, so ignoring the non Switch versions is, by that same logic, sort of understandable...
It seems far more likely Nintendo paid for it, then SE saying fuck other people. Maybe it only limited time exclusive for a year or so.
We now got folks calling the original release "incomplete" as if it wasn't lacking content and didn't didn't take hundred plus hours to do everything.
Some of you folks are acting like this content was done and they just conveniently decided to not include it in the initial release.
Also there is no guarantee the new additions for the Switch version are exclusive and some update isn't in the works for the other platforms.
Still it a near two year port after the initial release of the game that wasn't developed in parallel, there is a certain level of naivety involved if those were expecting such a port to not have something extra to justify a late port in the first place.
Some of you folks are acting like this content was done and they just conveniently decided to not include it in the initial release.
Also there is no guarantee the new additions for the Switch version are exclusive and some update isn't in the works for the other platforms.
Still it a near two year port after the initial release of the game that wasn't developed in parallel, there is a certain level of naivety involved if those were expecting such a port to not have something extra to justify a late port in the first place.
Glad I actually waited. Thought the west was never going to get their hands on the 2d mode without importing the 3ds version.
You think Nintendo paid for exclusivity on features for a late port?
It's a year late in the West and two years in Japan. These features are to encourage people to buy the game after such a long time, adding them back into the old versions defeats the purpose.
Additional multiplayer maps not making it into Wii ports of Call of Dutiy is in no way comparable to the DQXI situation.
As for DQXI being a flop in the West:
https://cogconnected.com/2018/10/analyst-dragon-quest-xi-biggest-launch-month-franchise-history/
So no, you don't have a point here.
They really came through with the 2D And OST. My only complaint is that it isn't going to be out sooner!
You can already get XI for half the price in PS4/Steam - this version will be published by Nintendo and probably not dropped in price for along time after release. So obviously they had to add more content to it if they are asking for another 60 bucks.
But it's really weird how SE handled this one...seems like they were okay shitting on their fans for the quick bucks. When they initially announced the western release on PS4/Steam ....they made it seem like the Switch game was ages away. I still feel they could have released all versions at the same time.
So yeah glad I waited bit but bummer for people who can't afford to double dip on this one and own another version.
But it's really weird how SE handled this one...seems like they were okay shitting on their fans for the quick bucks. When they initially announced the western release on PS4/Steam ....they made it seem like the Switch game was ages away. I still feel they could have released all versions at the same time.
So yeah glad I waited bit but bummer for people who can't afford to double dip on this one and own another version.
That should be their tag line on the back of the box lol
The music in the direct was so good. And 16 bit graphics too holy shit. This gonna be my first DQ game.
It's mostly the orchestral music, which was indeed withheld from being included in the original release for no good reason other than the composer being a twat.
I think he means that it made sense that the WiiU didnt get DQXI, because the system wasnt selling very well. Theres no telling how the Switch version will sell in the west either, so how the PS4 and PC version did shouldnt really be a factor to this (i dont think its a flop by the way, but maybe Square Enix expected more). Its more a case of goodwill to the fans if they patch the PC and PS4 version.
It looks great. Assuming portable mode isn't a massive downgrade, I'll probably pick it up eventually.
I can't convince myself to play this game AGAIN after how long it took me to beat plus all the backlog that I have, but at the same time, I'm tempted to play a new run with JP voices, orchestrated music and the other jank included
I saw a lot of cutscenes in that trailer that I don't remember in the original game (I don't remember Jade having a blue outfit--and I collected all the appearance altering outfits). I have the game on PC (for the orchestrated music mod), and even with the new content I not sure I want to double dip. Spend over 220 hours and I'm done.
No, I meant that Nintendo console owners aren't used to getting a game and then no more than a year later the other systems get a port with significant upgrades, including basic stuff that should have been in the original release - and with no compensation either.
It's like when people bought MvC3 and then 8 months later Capcom released UMvC3. That's the same kind of fuckery as the way DQ fans have been treated with this game's releases. If you bought it on PS4, you're stuck with a soundtrack that sounds worse than some PS1 music (and I'm not exaggerating here) because they couldn't be bothered to negotiate with the dickhead of a composer to include proper orchestral versions... but somehow when it comes to this port they went all out and made the effort?
Ok, that's news to me, so not flop, but I am still fairly certain SE did not get what they hoped for out of the western release, given what the sacrifice they did for it in Japan. But of course I could be wrong, and this is not really on topic and would just derail the thread, so let's leave it at this - I agree that SE should make a paid DLC that would add the missing content to other consoles/PC.
Added:I can't help it though, since you present this as some unprecedented thing - It just occurred to me that at the time (with PS3 at the very least), Sony had a clause that any late port got extra content. So all ports to PS3 that were not day 1 got their exclusive content. I honestly don't remember any outcry about that.
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Hell yeah im in for this. Glad I waited for sure. Was really doubting this development process about this time last year. Stoked the 3DS version's 2D visuals were included.
Loving this new Square Enix relationship with Nintendo.
Loving this new Square Enix relationship with Nintendo.
No, the orchestral music should be free DLC.
The newly recorded Japanese dub and/or the 2D stuff on the other hand, sure - they could get away with releasing those as paid DLC. But not something as basic as the BGM.
Yeah good luck with that. I don't buy Square-Enix simply patching the licensed symphonic suite version of the soundtrack into the game for free.
I think it's fair the content be added as DLC, but you need to temper your expectations if you expect to receive over 70 tracks of free music.
I think it's fair the content be added as DLC, but you need to temper your expectations if you expect to receive over 70 tracks of free music.
This is a fairly easy choice for me - the downgrade in music in the initial release is far worse than the downgrade in visuals here.
Not if you play in 2D.
But seriously the 3D Switch version is not an "assault on your eyes". It does look better on PS4 (let alone PC) but it looks good enough. And if you plan to play mostly in portable mode I assure you the differences will be hardly noticeable.
Kindly reminder that a publisher has to pay a lot of money to Sugiyama to have the rights to use those orchestral songs
Not sure if will buy since I love the PC version graphics and wouldnt need the benefit of the game being portable, but I thought the overworld graphics looked surprisingly good (far less foliage draw distance of course)
For those that like portable, its a fantastic port what with the 2D mode and new content for each character
For those that like portable, its a fantastic port what with the 2D mode and new content for each character
Eh, not really. For starters, most of those were Japan exclusive, or not from the same console generation. And remakes don't count. There has never been a Tales game released for one system in the West, only for other systems to get a significantly improved version less than a year later.
There's basically no chance the PS4 version is going to get the orchestrated soundtrack, right? I wanted to replay the game with stronger monsters at some point, but dropping 60 bucks just for better music and 16-bit mode seems pretty steep, especially since graphics are going to take a hit as a trade off. Since PC owners can always mod the music in, PS4 owners really got the short end of the stick here.
Blah, you're right. Why did I misremember that??? well another reason for the Switch version
It is DQ, i never cared how it looks. I care about battles/stories/exploration. 9 was a DS game and it was at the time the best DQ I have played.
16-bit also is going to give this game fantastic replay value for me.
16-bit also is going to give this game fantastic replay value for me.
They have to pay to use the MIDI too. He's the composer. You're not getting around that.
They're exactly the same. Symphonia PS2 and Graces f were both year later ports that added signficant content, story, playable characters, etc, that never found it's way back to GC/Wii.
SE doesn't owe anyone anything. PS4 owners got the game a year earlier (2 years earlier in Japan), that was the tradeoff.
DQXIS Definitive Edition is confirmed Switch exclusive anyway, enough with the sour grapes portbegging from you.