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Dragon Quest XI S: Echoes of an Elusive Age – Definitive Edition |OT| 2D, or not 2D, that is the question (now available on PS4/XB1/PC)
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This looks absolutely gorgeous.
I have been largely checked out on video game news since TLOU2 came out, and was just looking for something to kinda be a relaxing romp down memory lane. I picked up DQXI and was about 90% of the way through Act 3 here I saw this thread pop up. Come to find out they did this release and if I had paid attention a little bit I'd have been able to just play the "ultimate" edition. Ugh.
Oh well. I still really enjoyed this game. The only thing I think the original PS4 version is missing compared to this one are the Switch outfit additions and a final FINAL boss fight. Is that about it?
I have my PC set up to play the game roughly in 4K (1440p with resolution scale of 125%) on a GTX 1080, and it seems to stick to above 70 FPS most of the time.
I don't know how useful it is, but this hopefully should give you a good idea.
If you want to be sure you could download the demo and try it out yourself.
I've been away from home for a week and started to play the Switch demo.
Bought the first game on PC but the lack of Ultrawide support turned me off so I didn't get too far. Community patches were available but weren't too great. Then I saw some weird downgrades with the PC version of S, which I'm sure can be easily upgraded via mod.
Even having the S version for free on PC via Game Pass Ultimate, I may stick with the Switch version. Something about it seems special on a handheld, and I'm more likely to pick it up and play it there. Had the game supported Ultrawide on PC, I'd probably still play it there instead. Cross progession would be an easy double dip.
Bought the first game on PC but the lack of Ultrawide support turned me off so I didn't get too far. Community patches were available but weren't too great. Then I saw some weird downgrades with the PC version of S, which I'm sure can be easily upgraded via mod.
Even having the S version for free on PC via Game Pass Ultimate, I may stick with the Switch version. Something about it seems special on a handheld, and I'm more likely to pick it up and play it there. Had the game supported Ultrawide on PC, I'd probably still play it there instead. Cross progession would be an easy double dip.
The game plays a unskippable audio cue whenever this happens, so it's not like you'll be tricked or anything.
The main problem is that it's a complete pace-breaker because it takes like 15 seconds to talk to them again. You could be wasting up to a minute just trying to get the NPC to say what they're supposed to if you keep getting unlucky (especially if you combine this with Shypox). Apply this to every single possible conversation you can have with an NPC throughout the course of a very long RPG and you're looking at hours wasted simply attempting to talk to people.
I did it (with both Shypox modifiers enabled as well) and beat the game with it, and I absolutely do not recommend it. The novelty wore thin very quickly. Do it for another playthrough where you'll skip dialogue as much as possible if you want.
Yeah i will let it for a possible all draconian modifiers run later if i still feel like replaying the game getting 100% and stuff
I'm fine with the stronger monster for now. just wish i could add the no shopping too because i suspect it does something really gamebreaking and that trivializes item collection (buying materials directly from the forge)
It's not really gamebreaking, it's more like "oh, can't make this since you don't got enough, wanna just buy the difference?" And it doesn't work with materials you can't buy, which late game is a fair bit.
It's just convinent, you'd be able to buy these from traders at campsites anyway, eventually.
Not on a no shopping run, thats what i meant
So far i could buy even for stuff i had none of the materials. Felt too "cheap" to me. And its definitely too cheap in money too, since all the stuff i can craft is better than stuff on shops so far and like 5 times cheaper
Got around 25hrs, but i really can't say i like it till now. Is this gonna get better, or stay on the same level as till now?
I'm at
I'm at
old village from hero, where all people who survived gathered.
It's a pretty consistent game so I doubt you'll find anything to change your mind.
I'm disappointed that for all the QoL improvements, there's not an option to turn off the HUD during exploration, or at least elements of it. I noticed you can remove it during battles by pressing RT/R2. I hope someone can make a mod to turn it off and on the rest of the time.
It's not a big deal but that's the sort of stuff that bugs me in games these days, like you're on the horse and after dozens of hours it will still show you which button to press on screen to make it gallop, or how to dismount. Seriously we don't need this. It's even more dumb because it's the same button used to make the character run and it's not constantly written on screen, so I don't see why it's necessary when you're riding the horse :/
Well that's a small nitpick, I love what I've played so far. But yeah, mod community please, do your magic.
It's not a big deal but that's the sort of stuff that bugs me in games these days, like you're on the horse and after dozens of hours it will still show you which button to press on screen to make it gallop, or how to dismount. Seriously we don't need this. It's even more dumb because it's the same button used to make the character run and it's not constantly written on screen, so I don't see why it's necessary when you're riding the horse :/
Well that's a small nitpick, I love what I've played so far. But yeah, mod community please, do your magic.
I have the option enabled to hear the protagonist speak but so far all I hear him doing is grunts and moans. To be fair, I only just completed the beginning by reaching the top of the mountain. does he start speaking soon?
Generally, you'll never hear the protagonist talk in words.
But oddly enough, you'll hear the protagonist as a child talking in words.
Only graphics, Looks better and has Reflections that werent there in the Switch Build. Contentwise they're identical.
People keep crying about how horrible the game looks in this version but i still find everything gorgeous
Guess i have low standards
Guess i have low standards
Yes, I feel the same. I never played the non-S version, so maybe that's why, but just like Blue Dragon I find a more detailed but still simple in style art style to look great.
Side by Side with the PC/PS4 version it took a hit in Lighting and some Model Quality, but some people using extreme Hyperbole that it looks horrible because its "just a switch port.". But other than the lighting the game looks very good, think they even added reflections to some surfaces that werent there in Original, makes them look nicer.
I have started the game on Switch and played like 10 hours or so. I don't know if I feel like starting over on Xbox because of gamepass. How much better does it look in comparison? I understand some details are improved on Xbox but does it also get some major resolution bump for example?
Resolution went from like 900p to 4k, less pop in (barely noticeable now), bump from 30 to 60fps..
Both versions look good. Side-by-side, the original release is markedly better.
Just another Dragon Quest game that doesn't actually have a truly definitive release.
Wow, thanks. To me it sounds like a quite big upgrade so maybe I should consider waiting until i get an XSX to enjoy it on gamepass.
Also got Auto HDR if you got a compatible display. Heard it's pretty good on it, but can't test it myself unfortunately.
Thankfully square made the Xbox one port very scalable, I played the demo on Xbox one X and while it was enhanced (hence it goes 4k/60 on series X) it clearly got some performance issues on city areas, but BC clears those out.
Anyone saying this is just 'Switch graphics' isn't being truthful. Yes, it's using assets from the Switch version but it still looks far better. Especially with auto HDR.
Man, the load times on XSX are so impressive for a backcompat game. Initial load is like 5 or 6 seconds and then after that all loads are like 1-3 seconds. I'm not missing anything important in the load screen text am I?
With a proper XSX patch this game could definitely remove load times.
With a proper XSX patch this game could definitely remove load times.
Nah, its just some tips, and a little background info on some characters, nothing you dont also learn during the game itself tho.
Downloaded the demo on my PS5 and WOW. After beating Demon's Souls I had no idea how refreshing this lighthearted romp would be. And during a pandemic, it's just really nice to play something that is so nostalgic!
Yeah I played the original release when at launch because of the Tim Rogers video and dropped it a free hours in because it wasn't grabbing me (and the midi music didn't help), but I decided to give it another shot when it released on Game Pass and I'm absolutely loving it now. It's just so cozy
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Putting it in spoilers just in case.
There are Metal King Slimes to fight in the final dungeon of Act 2 or Vicious Liquid Metal Slimes in The Battleground in Act 2.
I checked PS4 demo on PS5 and PC version with ini setting on a 4k screen and the difference is huge. If you can get the PC version.
I recommend this site for the settings: https://sites.google.com/view/dqxi-commands/ini-tweaks
I recommend this site for the settings: https://sites.google.com/view/dqxi-commands/ini-tweaks
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I just came out of a rather lengthy, almost one-hour long dungeon in Tickinton and for some reason that was more stressful than anything in the actual game lol. Ugh I do not miss random battles AT ALL, nor do I like the old DQ combat style if deciding everything at the start of every turn.
Coming out of Tickinton and back into the regular fully-3D world was a weird sensation.
Coming out of Tickinton and back into the regular fully-3D world was a weird sensation.
So are we not able to do any of the Tickington sidequests in the 3D portion of the game?
You get to go to tickington, you temporarily become 2D and it doesn't affect anything negatively like trying to swap between 2D and 3D in normal gameplay.
Check back in with the little bowtie guy whenever you find a Tockle, you can Zoom to his location whenever and tackle these little vignettes of the past whenever.
Ok, thanks.
I'll spoiler the next part, just in case. I just heard
that you can't visit the various DQ worlds (which I think are related to Tickington) except in 2D. So I wasn't sure if you could do anything in 3D or not.
But it sounds like there are things to do 3D-wise with finding the Tockles, but not really sure what's involved with that. But maybe it's best I don't know and just find out. I just wanted to know if there were things to do 3D-wise with Tickington.
You have to find certain Tockles in the 3D world to gain the "pastwords" to enter the DQ worlds.