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Dragon Ball Super |OT6| The waiting game
- Thread starter ArchedThunder
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I think the anime could do this arc only if it was gutted and retuned. Get rid of Moro and bring in a better villain with more interesting powers and design. Maybe keep the magic aspect. Give him at least Zamasu/Jiren level of backstory - even if it's simple and cliche I'd rather have something than nothing, I don't want to go back to 'he's just evil' no backstory villains where their sole motivation is to just destroy and/or conquer. Keep the galactic patrol stuff, it's cool to expand on the 'lore' like that, so the replacement villain could still be related to this. Perhaps the other escapees could be from some secret org, so the other DB fighters get a chance Keep Merus, but give him way more time with Goku in some slice of life episodes - like maybe have him befriend Goku as a member of the Galactic patrol. Have them hang out a bunch and become buddies. Make it like his early relationship with Krillin. Throw Jaco in there. It's like the perfect opportunity to bring back some of that early DB Goku and friends kind of storytelling. Then over time Merus identity is revealed and he's still about justice and sacrifice and does the whole helping out and disappearing thing eventually.
The other thing they'd have to rework a lot is Beerus. He can't just sit on the sidelines and not care anymore after the ToP. So you either have to have him get in on the action, like the new villain is a threat even to him and he has to get involved, or he needs to come in and erase the villain at some point. There's not really much else to do with him now, outside of him being way higher power level than the villain or having him join the team. The only other kind of thing would be to have him occupied with something that's actually important or somehow be unable to reach the events happening.
The other thing they'd have to rework a lot is Beerus. He can't just sit on the sidelines and not care anymore after the ToP. So you either have to have him get in on the action, like the new villain is a threat even to him and he has to get involved, or he needs to come in and erase the villain at some point. There's not really much else to do with him now, outside of him being way higher power level than the villain or having him join the team. The only other kind of thing would be to have him occupied with something that's actually important or somehow be unable to reach the events happening.
In the new episode of Heroes SSJ4 Goku and Vegeta get the new stupid form and perform a double Dragon Fist together
We don't even know how Goku knows that technique in the first place. It never had a real introduction.
A recent update of Dragonball Heroes had a bunch of cards with a double team dragon fist with various pairs and the animated series was showcasing a bit of that, although with only one pair.
the guy he's fighting looks like he came out of the 90s with that shading, I like it
I heard a rumour that the reason we haven't gotten a Super continuation is because AT hasn't written any new material yet.
Any truth to that?
Any truth to that?
Likely he hasn't written enough for a series, but I think they could still go the filler route without him setting something up. Just seems like a logistics issue with the studio(s).
The whole reason we got Kai is because they didn't want to push an actual DB anime without Toriyama. I wouldn't be surprised if that's also why Heroes is just a net-series rather than a tv show too.
They really don't. Dragon Ball is printing money without anything new.
Just saw this figure:
made me realize that GT Adult Goku is an underrated look
give Goku more outfits
I just hate GT Goku's pants.
I have to disagree. While Toei is fine working with Toriyama material and expanding on it, they have proven themselves to be far less constant with doing stuff on their own. Sure, we do get great stuff like the Bardock Special and Move 13, but more often than not we get GT quality stuff. And we had what Battle of Gods would have been like without Toriyama, which had interesting ideas along with some ideas that sounds horrible.
On toriyama not being included. On the one hand Toei has included goten and trunks in situations the movies didn't and even got a filler arc. On the other hand each time they did it was disrespect and that filler never happened
Movies, GT & Moro Arc are examples of when Toriyama has less influence on story.
Do you all reaaally want to risk getting more of that?
Do you all reaaally want to risk getting more of that?
Fighting to help his friends isn't really the same thing as fighting for the entire universe. The main issue with this development is that I doubt it will stick beyond this one speech (He'll still be just fine with letting Freeza go around the universe as long as he's terrorizing people he doesn't know).
It's also hilarious to see this guy completely missing the entire point of that scene in the preview and its relation to UI in spite of it being basically spelled out in a previous chapter.
But Goku did fight for the entire universe last arc. Even shallowed his pride to work with Vegeta to take down Jiren and allowed himself to be double KO.
Even though the stakes were the entire universe, character-wise it was only about friendship. That's what the entire conflict with Jiren was about (doing things alone vs with others).
Not really in the Super manga. Friendship wasn't mentioned at all. What you're talking about is teamwork.
Toei will fix the Moro arc.
Let them continue. No damage has been done by them.
At the very least, it can't be worst than what we got unless they tank the animation.
Also, GT did arguably damaged the Dragon Ball name since it put the entire series in hibernation until Kai and Heroes outside of the PS2 and Wii games.
Even those games only came years after GT had finished, and development for them primarily started aiming for the Western market. For a while after GT, Dragonball was actually dead as a franchise which is probably why they hesitate on going ahead on their own again.
Which is exactly why I don't think they'd adapt the Moro content since Toriyama barely has a hand in it.
Super Toei was done under the guidance of Toriyama. The only recent Toei project we have is the scrapped concept of Battle of Gods. The one where Super Saiyan God had a cape, the Saiyans being evil being all on Beerus, and the plot being yet another take on the Garlic Jr Saga.
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That and it's becoming more obvious that Toyo is copying other sources other than the original Dragon Ball manga. One Youtuber last month pointed out Merus kicking Moro into the air was ripped from Naruto.
Isn't it based on the anime despite Toyo's original version being more based on Toriyama's draft? That and the choreograph for UI looks.....stiff. That and Goku going Omen to UI was ripped from the anime Episode 129.
Yep and I'm pretty sure he looked at FighterZ too. Look at the massive hands in some parts lol.
It's not specifically the anime's (no eyebrow ridges for example), but yes, he's clearly buffer than the first time it was used in the manga. And even goes shirtless by the end of the chapter like in all UI promo material.