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Dragon Ball Super |OT5| A new ERA of Dragon Ball [Tag all DBS Broly spoilers until February 1st]
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Consider when most people talk about the dub they mean Z and not the original DB it's not hard to see why.
He looks like a roided out Binding of Isaac character.
Jiren was soooo bland. Waiting till the whole thing was nearly over to give him any characterization was dumb.
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Fun fact: 17's blue ki blasts that hit Jiren are synched up with the music
in retrospect dyspo kind of comes off as a fool for not using his lightspeed thing against hit
if goku could break through hit's timeskip with speed in kaioken, dyspo should have been able to as well
it would have been cool to see that fight be a two parter, and ending with hit eliminating dyspo
if goku could break through hit's timeskip with speed in kaioken, dyspo should have been able to as well
it would have been cool to see that fight be a two parter, and ending with hit eliminating dyspo
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It's DB. Once a saga ends, you just see how much dumber every character was.
"Master, please tell me everything about your valiant battle against Jiren and how you won the ToP and earned the wish!"
It probably wears him out so he was saving it. He did say he was gonna get his revenge on Hit but Jiren took care of him.
He was in danger of being eliminated though
He could have also saved stamina by not taking a beating lol
Jiren is stronger than goku because goku can't use ui at will
Especially if Goku was able to move in hits time skip
That doesn't make any sense though
Especially if Goku was able to move in hits time skip
Kai is the superior product in every aspect....well the music isn't very good
I used to love the Kai soundtrack but yeah it's not as good as Kikuchi
Also I felt like I heard the same four songs fifty times per episode
Goku was 'forcing himself into the future' to deal with Hit's timeskip, per King Kai in the episode where Goku's ki goes wacky.
maybe
it's not entirely clear if blue evolution is stronger than kaioken x20, but it does seem to be
they said this in the show? interesting
it is once sumitomo comes on board :)
Hit's Time Skip and everything involving it wasn't properly displayed/explained in 38-40. His Time Skip was much better portrayed against Dyspo.
so honest question
for a second let's ignore that broly isn't canon
And lets say for whatever reason he was never thrown into the sun, and he stuck around for the series
And he kept growing in power along with goku and vegeta, like, through clashes but they never killed broly
Could Broly, having grown throughout the years, beat Jiren, given Brolys original power level and Saiyan potential?
for a second let's ignore that broly isn't canon
And lets say for whatever reason he was never thrown into the sun, and he stuck around for the series
And he kept growing in power along with goku and vegeta, like, through clashes but they never killed broly
Could Broly, having grown throughout the years, beat Jiren, given Brolys original power level and Saiyan potential?
He'd be above Berserk Kale level and she is able to match SSB so yeah, he'd stand a chance but I can't see him winniing
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Yeah, I got used to most of the voice actors changes, but teen Gohan still annoys me everytime I hear it. Still, the worst miscast imo was Coleen as Kid Goku in Xenoverse. It looses the naive innocence the old voice had and replaces it with the tone of a whiny child.
sounds bad. though games usually have bad VA compared to the show but yea, bad.
I'll take Kai Gohan and Stephanie N as kid Goku for GT and Dragon Ball.
everyone wins.
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Now that I'm watching more, she actually is going for schemmel's goku the way she talks. So i can't discount that. It kind of fits in that way
hmm.....
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So I just watched the 127-131 and if there's a running theme for the tournament it's that Goku has infinite energy. The amount of times this dude got put to sleep but then gets up is staggering. Half of 128 is him crying like a bitch while Vegeta is getting his ass beaten after they both took the same attack. This is after Vegeta was already wiped from doing an attack that should have killed him. Vegeta then proceeds to get the dog shit beaten out of him while putting up 0 fight at all, gets punched in the face and gets eliminated, because you know, he has nothing left in the tank. Goku in 130 puts Jiren on his back a total of 3 times and then after that Jiren's like,"Guess you won, dawg." Then in 131 Jiren is so tired Frieza is putting a hurting on him. He was slapping Frieza unconscious without even looking in his direction before. Not to say I take issue with that but everyone who takes a beating comes across as tired/depleted except for Goku who comes back within half an episode of his body literally having a blue screen error and shutting down.
I'm curious how the manga deals with the tournament, either tone down Jiren or have Goku act a bit more tactically about his engagements. From we got with the anime, you'd think Goku had more stamina than an infinite stamina having android.
I'm curious how the manga deals with the tournament, either tone down Jiren or have Goku act a bit more tactically about his engagements. From we got with the anime, you'd think Goku had more stamina than an infinite stamina having android.
Well, that's the thing, we don't know. The way 17 said it was general enough to make that happen, but we have no idea if the GP said it exactly like that OR if he changed it to be specific to the Universes in the ToP. Plus, the show doesn't show anyone besides the known Universes either.
So it could happen, in fact I feel it's the likely cause for the movie itself, but until they say/show/tell something about it, we just have no way of knowing.
GT doesn't really deserve better though. Even the games know this :P
Not really, Vegeta's Beyond Blue form puts him more on par with Goku's Kaioken Blue.
No I didn't. My confusion is comparing Kale to Broly at all power level wise.
I rolled my eyes when he got back up 10 seconds after UI took a huge toll on his body.
I was more annoyed with how quickly he worked his way back up to UI in the Kefla episodes more than in the last handful of episodes. Him going through each form methodically and reaching UI again minutes after round 1 with Jiren was probably the least engaging part of the tournament, to me. I feel like I would have rather he been able to defeat Kefla with some clever thinking (like using the grind Kamehameha to catch a stronger Kefla off-guard, or something) in Kaioken-Blue. NOT because I want Kelfa to have fought a 'weaker' opponent, but more that I think things would be tidier if Goku first activated UI accidentally and improperly with the Spirit Bomb, and then bounced back to the form a final time with no other option at the end against Jiren -- that time mastered. Him reaching the form three times, whenever the power was needed, was just messy.
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