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BAD

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Oct 25, 2017
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What we know so far (spoiler free headlines):

Feel free to point out other info I can add to the timeline.

From the teaser, a mural:
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Travless

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Mar 7, 2018
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I've been wanting to get into the DA series for so long but other games have just got in the way. Picked up DAI at GameStop last year during one of their 3 for $15 deals with plans to give it a shot. Is DAI ok to start with, or should I just go back and start Origins? I can snag it on PC for cheap I'm sure.
 

Teeth

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Nov 4, 2017
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I've been wanting to get into the DA series for so long but other games have just got in the way. Picked up DAI at GameStop last year during one of their 3 for $15 deals with plans to give it a shot. Is DAI ok to start with, or should I just go back and start Origins? I can snag it on PC for cheap I'm sure.

I would start with Dragon Age Origins Ultimate edition (which includes the Expansion) and I would definitely get it on PC. The setup for the way the entire universe operates is done throughout DAO and the rest of the games assume that the player knows a lot going in. Dragon Age Inquisition in particular only has a meh "plot", but the impact it has on the greater universe of DA and lore implications is massive.

Edit: also, play Mage for maximum fun.
 

Travless

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Mar 7, 2018
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I would start with Dragon Age Origins Ultimate edition (which includes the Expansion) and I would definitely get it on PC. The setup for the way the entire universe operates is done throughout DAO and the rest of the games assume that the player knows a lot going in. Dragon Age Inquisition in particular only has a meh "plot", but the impact it has on the greater universe of DA and lore implications is massive.
Hmm, interesting. From what I hear the console version of DAO isn't bad but the PC version is the best way to play it. IIRC, DAO is BC on Xbone right?
 

Kalentan

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Oct 25, 2017
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Really hope that our Inquisitor is either playable (with mechanical arm) or a very big player in the story. I cannot imagine them sidelining the character considering their major connection to Solas, doubly so for those who romanced him.
 

anexanhume

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Oct 25, 2017
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Really hope that our Inquisitor is either playable (with mechanical arm) or a very big player in the story. I cannot imagine them sidelining the character considering their major connection to Solas, doubly so for those who romanced him.
Maybe I'm not remembering the story, but

Aren't you told the link is going to kill you?
 

Quinton

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Oct 25, 2017
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My most anticipated game since Mass Effect 3. Easily. Dragon Age Inquisition wasn't perfect, but there are big reasons it's still in my top 10 games list, and several of those reasons pertain to precisely what this game has been set up to accomplish.
 

KushalaDaora

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Oct 27, 2017
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I wonder how importing your decision from past games handled.

Also I really need to finish Inquisition lol.
 

texhnolyze

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Oct 25, 2017
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I'm more interested in the game's template. It's going to be DA Inquisition 2, isn't it? Same engine, same open world, same combat.

I love open world games, but Bioware games just don't blend well with open world. I wish they'd be going back to Origin style. The DLCs in Inquisition proved that it's possible.
 

Berserker976

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Oct 27, 2017
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I know it's still a long ways off, but I'm super excited to see Tevinter. It's so frequently talked about, and everything that comes from there is stylistically interesting. I don't think our Inquisitor will be playable, but I bet they'll still be a big part of the story.
 

rhandino

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Oct 25, 2017
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My theory is that Dragon Age 4 is going to be trying to stop Solas by trying to convince both Tevinter and The Qun to stop their war and unite against the common enemy and we will be exploring areas controlled by those factions just like in Inquisition the action was between Orlais and Ferelden.

I also don't think the Inquisitor is coming back in playable form but more in a "figure in the shadows" helping the new protagonist and sending some of his allies like Dorian or Iron Bull.
 

HououinKyouma

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Oct 27, 2017
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I remember Dragon Age Keep being kind of a cool way to bring forward your choices from one console gen to the next.

Curious if they do the same here.
 

Ushay

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Oct 27, 2017
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Will be interesting to see how choices are imported over from the last game(s). The Keep was a good way of doing this.

Someone remind me how the Dread Wolf fits into the lore of Dragon Age again?
 

elenarie

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Jun 10, 2018
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I've been wanting to get into the DA series for so long but other games have just got in the way. Picked up DAI at GameStop last year during one of their 3 for $15 deals with plans to give it a shot. Is DAI ok to start with, or should I just go back and start Origins? I can snag it on PC for cheap I'm sure.

I would strongly suggest you play from start to end, and all of the content / DLCs too. Play on the easiest difficulty if you find some of the gameplay off-putting.
But that's the best way to experience this incredible universe. Mixing games does it a bit of injustice, as things that happen in earlier games are often referenced in later games. :)

Once you start getting into it, you can track your progress on the tapestry (just avoid it until you finish one game, as it is full of spoilers).

https://dragonagekeep.com/
 
Oct 27, 2017
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I think the changing market with open world games (and the shit that Andromeda got with a very similar style) will make DA4 a very different experience than Inquisition.
 

Rodjer

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Jan 28, 2018
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3 things i want

> Return to Dragon Age Origin Dark-fantasy tone
> Tevinter
> Punching Solas.
 

Potterson

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Oct 28, 2017
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I just want one thing.

Do not make it open world, Bioware. Just don't. You aren't good at huge, open locations. Stick to the perfect Mass Effect formula of linear but sometimes branching loactions.
 

Sargerus

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Oct 25, 2017
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I hope that monster is an Archdemon. I want another blight and return of the Darkspawn.
 
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Quality over quantity, that's what I'm hoping for the most. And a battle system that actually feels fun. I do not like the fast paced nature of the last two games.
 

Persephone

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Oct 25, 2017
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With Gaider gone I have some hope that everything bad in the DA universe will stop turning out to be the elves' fault but Weekes isn't much better tbh so ehhh
 

Zexen

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Oct 27, 2017
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I would strongly suggest you play from start to end, and all of the content / DLCs too. Play on the easiest difficulty if you find some of the gameplay off-putting.
But that's the best way to experience this incredible universe. Mixing games does it a bit of injustice, as things that happen in earlier games are often referenced in later games. :)

Once you start getting into it, you can track your progress on the tapestry (just avoid it until you finish one game, as it is full of spoilers).

https://dragonagekeep.com/
Hmm weird, I can remember using the Keep in the past, but now it juste gives me errors, and says I'm not synced on the top right corner.

Also this:
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On the subject of the game, as long as Morrigan is part of it, I'm fine.
I hope that monster is an Archdemon. I want another blight and return of the Darkspawn.

Yes, more Darkspawns, and I want to see what our Warden found out about the cure in is journey.
 

BossAttack

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Oct 27, 2017
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I've been wanting to get into the DA series for so long but other games have just got in the way. Picked up DAI at GameStop last year during one of their 3 for $15 deals with plans to give it a shot. Is DAI ok to start with, or should I just go back and start Origins? I can snag it on PC for cheap I'm sure.

You really need to start with DA: Origins. It sets everything up. And, play it on PC if you can. It's not that the console version are bad, but the combat in DA:O is similar to old isometric RPGs and the use of the tactical camera as well as "pause and play" are strongly encouraged. This is easiest to control on a PC as opposed to a console controller.

Dragon Age 2 is skippable, I still enjoy it for what it is, but it is a rather self-contained story. Though you should probably watch a story recap online since the ending of DA2 is what sets up Inquisition.

Now, you can start playing Inquisition, a great fucking game and deserving of its GOTY win. Of course, be sure to play the Trespasser DLC as it will tie into DA4. Another thing, you should go to the website "Dragon Age Keep" to setup your "World State" before playing Inquisition. It's a way of allowing you to setup your world with all the decisions you made in the past games which you can import into Inquisition. It's actually quite amazing how BioWare accounts for and maintains so many of your choices from past games.


Instead of being an offline MMO like DA:I I think it's going to be an actual MMO like Anthem & Destiny.

That's legit not going to happen, at all. It will almost certainly be a SP RPG, the question is what kind of monetization and type of MP/Live elements they bundle with it.

With Gaider gone I have some hope that everything bad in the DA universe will stop turning out to be the elves' fault but Weekes isn't much better tbh so ehhh

Fuck the Elves. Let the Dwarves inherit all of Thedas.
 

RocknRola

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Oct 25, 2017
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With Gaider gone I have some hope that everything bad in the DA universe will stop turning out to be the elves' fault but Weekes isn't much better tbh so ehhh
I do find it interesting that in the DA universe, the elves were some ridiculously powerful entities back in the past yet ended up being perhaps the most abused race in present. The Dwarves also have some of that (and the Red Lyrium might help play into that a bit more) but it's not as obvious since they still have some pretty defined kingdoms and cities.
 

Persephone

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I do find it interesting that in the DA universe, the elves were some ridiculously powerful entities back in the past yet ended up being perhaps the most abused race in present. The Dwarves also have some of that (and the Red Lyrium might help play into that a bit more) but it's not as obvious since they still have some pretty defined kingdoms and cities.

I mean given that the elves are explicitly said to be coded after various oppressed groups (Native Americans, Jews and Roma off the top of my head) the whole "everything is the elves' fault and they're oppressed now but it's okay because they deserve it for being assholes lol" thing is reeeeeeeeally skeevy.
 

BossAttack

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Oct 27, 2017
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I do find it interesting that in the DA universe, the elves were some ridiculously powerful entities back in the past yet ended up being perhaps the most abused race in present. The Dwarves also have some of that (and the Red Lyrium might help play into that a bit more) but it's not as obvious since they still have some pretty defined kingdoms and cities.

The Witcher universe works the same way. It's the opposite of Tolkein Elves who are seen as the purest and most amazing creatures ever.
 

Luxorek

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Oct 25, 2017
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I liked a lot about DA:I, but the quest and combat encounter design were not among those. Also, no need for as many open-world areas as we got in Inquisition given how many of them were devoid of meaningful content, sometimes less is better. Storywise, we know now that Solas is gonna be a central character. If he's the main villain then he is already magnitudes better than what's his face from Inqusition. Also, wasn't a Qunari invasion on Tevinter also hinted? And another blight?

Since the game is who knows how many years away I wonder if it's gonna be a crossgen title. Seems like a given. This really hurt DA:I in hindsight, but given what current consoles are capable of I'm not that worried.
 

RocknRola

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The Witcher universe works the same way. It's the opposite of Tolkein Elves who are seen as the purest and most amazing creatures ever.
Yeah, nice catch. Witcher 3 in particular makes that painfully clear. It's an interesting twist. Or rather it's a twist that 100% works for me, as it makes me super curious to see how they were, what happened to change their status quo and how they got to the "present" situation.
 

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I'm more interested in the game's template. It's going to be DA Inquisition 2, isn't it? Same engine, same open world, same combat.

I love open world games, but Bioware games just don't blend well with open world. I wish they'd be going back to Origin style. The DLCs in Inquisition proved that it's possible.
I'm guessing its either going to be full on open world or go a bit more focused like the DLC. It really depends on what they're/EA are aiming for. As great as the games are, sales wise they are a bit limited by the crpg/rpg hybrid design.
 

RocknRola

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I mean given that the elves are explicitly said to be coded after various oppressed groups (Native Americans, Jews and Roma off the top of my head) the whole "everything is the elves' fault and they're oppressed now but it's okay because they deserve it for being assholes lol" thing is reeeeeeeeally skeevy.
Oh, had no real idea about that tbh. Huh...so they tried to make the elves the default representation of actual real world oppressed groups and then still decided to go through with this idea? That does seem somewhat sketchy.

As I've said, it's something that in a vaccum does appeal to me, the idea of a group that is now oppressed in a story, being the cause of Universe wide issues because at some point they were ridiculously powerful. However, when they're also being surrogates for real world people that's....that's not the greatest of ideas.
 

BossAttack

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I mean given that the elves are explicitly said to be coded after various oppressed groups (Native Americans, Jews and Roma off the top of my head) the whole "everything is the elves' fault and they're oppressed now but it's okay because they deserve it for being assholes lol" thing is reeeeeeeeally skeevy.

I don't think the elves are direct allegories to specific oppressed people but have a sense of applicability to any type of oppressed people. Still, I don't think their situation can be classified so simply as "it's their fault for everything and they deserve what they got." Humans aren't exactly painted as rosy figures with all their discrimination and Exalted Marches *cough Genocide/Pogroms*. The whole situation is complex with blame going all over the place. It's why I find it interesting.
 

Orion

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Oct 25, 2017
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Dorian's a given but I'd love to see Fenris back as well. I think he was even mentioned being in Tevinter during Inquisition. Can Iron Bull please come too? I don't care that he might have died just magic him back to life Leliana style.
 

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With a Tevinter setting, Dorian and maybe Fenris returning is a given, though in what capacity I'm not sure. Dorian has his little political reformation faction going on so it's likely he and they will be important to at least one plot thread.

Don't know what Fenris would be up to, presumably freeing slaves and causing a headache for the Magisterium. Maybe he'd be on Solas' side, actually.
 

Shoeless

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Oct 27, 2017
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I would love to see Antiva as well. I don't know why, but anytime talk of Antiva comes up between characters, I always get this urge to see that region.

I'm super curious about where the game is going to go. I enjoyed Inquisition, even though playing Witcher III later made me see the flaws in Inquisition far more starkly. But I still love the world and the characters, and the DA:I DLC really amped up the stakes of the story. As long as DA4 isn't another Mass Effect: Andromeda, I'm all in.
 

Griffith

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Oct 27, 2017
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I wish they would make the game more focused on the story and roleplay and less about "open exploration", but I doubt they will move in that direction.
 

stn

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I hope its smaller in scale than Inquisition, but more focused in story and content. Also, hopefully there's loot this time around. I don't want to craft, I want to explore and find rare weapons and armor. I think I used the same armor set for all of Inquisition.
 

Fairy Godmother

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That elf is bald, it's just weird lighting. It's definitely Solas.

Odd way to intepret a bald head on a drawing then. :/
Why would Solas be fighting against the Dread Wolf? Red eyes too, is he affected by Red Lyrium?

I would love to see Antiva as well. I don't know why, but anytime talk of Antiva comes up between characters, I always get this urge to see that region.

I'm super curious about where the game is going to go. I enjoyed Inquisition, even though playing Witcher III later made me see the flaws in Inquisition far more starkly. But I still love the world and the characters, and the DA:I DLC really amped up the stakes of the story. As long as DA4 isn't another Mass Effect: Andromeda, I'm all in.
If they make it more "epic", I'd love to also explore Rivain, Antiva's neighbour.
 

Azzanadra

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If there's one thing I hope for, its the return of a darker tone and atmosphere- Inquisition seemed oddly sanitized as a Dragon Age game. Like the Fade didn't seem as disturbing and seemed like a more generic "other world", the racial prejudice aspect was downplayed, it lacked that gritty medieval atmosphere.

One thing I am exited about is Solas as the antagonist, this series has lacked a really good villain since Loghain.