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Dragalia Lost |OT2| Boom.
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It's not that you should, it's that you have. The redeeming period doesn't start until the 1st.
Ah, that makes sense then, thanks.
How do I get more of the purple gems to do the Shishimai Showdown raids?
Volk's Wrath Expert has been cleared:
That Xania hat 9,4k might... I just got 8,2k with my 6* weapon... ;_;
Guess I will stick to Standard for now. The fight looks super fun on expert though.
That Xania hat 9,4k might... I just got 8,2k with my 6* weapon... ;_;
Guess I will stick to Standard for now. The fight looks super fun on expert though.
Volk expert has been cleared two times as of now. Here's a video of the fastest clear in 5:47 (13s to spare). The used comp is Naveed/Xania/Sarisse/H!Lowen all with MUB HDT2 weapons except Lowen (0UB), and all using the Elegant Escort print (30% burn punisher).
The other used Euden/Rena/Sarisse/H!Lowen and cleared in exactly 6min (only Rena alive at the end).
Needless to say expert won't be doable in pub for some time and for people who already entered the e/mHDT cycle, it's probably a better idea to go for the new building instead of crafting a weapon as the bonus it gives are significant:
The other used Euden/Rena/Sarisse/H!Lowen and cleared in exactly 6min (only Rena alive at the end).
Needless to say expert won't be doable in pub for some time and for people who already entered the e/mHDT cycle, it's probably a better idea to go for the new building instead of crafting a weapon as the bonus it gives are significant:
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Can't wait to see the first 10k might adventurer.
And to think by the end of next year we should be looking at a possible ~15k max might.
😓
And to think by the end of next year we should be looking at a possible ~15k max might.
😓
That's 16% on the adventurer base stats + augment iirc, so probably around 3-4% increase in the end. And then there is the second phase of the fight which doesn't have a set pattern....
There is of course a lot of optimisation to be found though.
Third clear :
Rena/Ramona/Sarisse/Lowen (5:57).
Naveed, Euden und Xania (and Botan) all seem to be extremely good. I have built Xania myself and love her already. No idea about the others though.
Glad I saw this + checked Discord after.
To be clear for everyone, the building only takes 25 gold mats total to max it. That first clear gives 30, so you will only need to farm Standard.
But if you use that first clear reward on a 6* weapon, it will take a couple months of weeklies to get that many gold materials again. And meanwhile the 6* is only breaking you into the Master high dragon cycle a bit early anyway.
Those you have to use daily or lose them, so make sure to use them daily.
I must've done 15 Expert Void Nidhogg runs and have only gotten the shadow orbs needed for the mana spiral to drop once. Then I see this notice about a drop rewards issue:
Small PSA to uhhhh be very careful about how you set the repeat function if you may fall asleep.
When I was finally feeling tired enough to sleep last night, it was when I wanted to auto the last few smoldering manticore fights needed for the endeavor. Thought I set it for 5, but that was after a few times where I thought I'd just let it run but then wanted to fiddle with prints, and apparently I hadn't double checked the settings the final time. So I dozed off and - thankfully for my honey, at least - woke up again a little later to see it on run 19/99, the 14th extra run.
Had it kept going, it would have wasted up to 2100 stamina (or maybe more like ~1900, I think I'd have run out of that specific item) in honey rather than the 350 it already did! Definitely being a lot more careful from now on. I already feel like the repeat function only works like I thought it would half the time, due to accidentally backing out of the quest and it resetting, and so on...
What's scarier is that when I woke up again later on in the morning, my phone was dead. I forget if I'd had it plugged in at the time fo the auto and only unplugged it when I woke up then, but if it indeed was unplugged and I hadn't caught that it was still running, it totally would have died afterward and I'd have never seen that results screen. I'd have just been very confused by all that missing honey and all the weapons in my inbox.
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I did about that many last night and it wasn't that bad but it sure felt terrible. And at least that was mainly Geuden HD runs (I even went and used ingots on my previously 0UB HD2 now that we know how Agito fits into things), so they were ~1 minute at worst.
I got a couple drops of 6 at a time which helped make up for it, but I really hope they compensate with a fitting number of orbs and not just the ashes used, even if I expect the latter. Even now I still need to grab 3 more to finish Botan's; also need to go back to HJP already for 12 spheres, I guess.
When I was finally feeling tired enough to sleep last night, it was when I wanted to auto the last few smoldering manticore fights needed for the endeavor. Thought I set it for 5, but that was after a few times where I thought I'd just let it run but then wanted to fiddle with prints, and apparently I hadn't double checked the settings the final time. So I dozed off and - thankfully for my honey, at least - woke up again a little later to see it on run 19/99, the 14th extra run.
Had it kept going, it would have wasted up to 2100 stamina (or maybe more like ~1900, I think I'd have run out of that specific item) in honey rather than the 350 it already did! Definitely being a lot more careful from now on. I already feel like the repeat function only works like I thought it would half the time, due to accidentally backing out of the quest and it resetting, and so on...
What's scarier is that when I woke up again later on in the morning, my phone was dead. I forget if I'd had it plugged in at the time fo the auto and only unplugged it when I woke up then, but if it indeed was unplugged and I hadn't caught that it was still running, it totally would have died afterward and I'd have never seen that results screen. I'd have just been very confused by all that missing honey and all the weapons in my inbox.
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I did about that many last night and it wasn't that bad but it sure felt terrible. And at least that was mainly Geuden HD runs (I even went and used ingots on my previously 0UB HD2 now that we know how Agito fits into things), so they were ~1 minute at worst.
I got a couple drops of 6 at a time which helped make up for it, but I really hope they compensate with a fitting number of orbs and not just the ashes used, even if I expect the latter. Even now I still need to grab 3 more to finish Botan's; also need to go back to HJP already for 12 spheres, I guess.
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The mana spirals have been reflected in the DPS sim. With hers, Ezelith is just slightly behind Chelsea to be the second best fire pure DPS. Naveed and Euden come out much improved. (though Karl still beats out Naveed thanks to his buff if he has built out teammates) Xania beats S!Maribelle, as mentioned before. Aoi comes closer to Rena but falls short.
Everyone who got an upgrade saw a large increase. Alain is the weakest of the bunch but still isn't that far behind Mikoto on the sim, to give you an idea of how good each of the characters are now.
Everyone who got an upgrade saw a large increase. Alain is the weakest of the bunch but still isn't that far behind Mikoto on the sim, to give you an idea of how good each of the characters are now.
Since you specified Expert, I'm assuming you're familiar with Standard HMS? Expert HMS is the exact same fight as Standard HMS (literally 0 mechanical changes), you just need to be much stronger.
I'm actually not too familiar with standard, I just quickly cleared it today and got the Agito bow for Sarisse. Since that wasn't too bad I was considering giving expert a shot with her. Standard seemed fairly simple from a mechanical standpoint so maybe I'll try it out. Thank you!
Lmao Botan literally right below Gleo. Two best DPS both in dark.
Looks like I'll have to replace Yaten with a 6th circle Cassandra after that.
Just a heads up guys, a T2 MUB Volcanic weapon has almost the same Strength as a 0UB Agito weapon (972 Strength vs 1001 Strength for the fire swords). Give your first Agito weapon to whomever you plan to main for endgame content with, and work on MUB-ing that one before building others. Making more 0UB Agito weapons doesn't seem to be worth the grind compared to just using a maxed Volcanic weapon. If you're not strong enough for Expert Agito, the Volcanic Chimera is still an incredible farm in the mean time for giving your fire team a massive strength boost. As soon as I finish event grinding, ALL my wings are going into the Chimera for my F2P NOTTE account.
Personally, I'd say this update is overall pretty amazing. Before it was either do eHDTs/mHDTs or you're stuck with core/void weapons. Now you can grind Volcanic Chimera for weapons that are as good as HD1 weapons (outside of HDTs), and do standard Agito weeklies to eventually get a weapon on par with HD2 weapons (MUB T1 Agito weapons are essentially a sidegrade to MUB HD2's) even if you're not strong enough for Expert Agito. It's even possible to solo standard Agito after grinding enough Volcanic weapons, or get into the eHDT cycle now by using Volcanic/Agito weapons for eHMS. All this combined with 3-stars, 4-stars, and underperforming 5-stars all becoming significantly more viable if not outright top tier makes this arguably the best patch ever for casual or mid-game players, on top of still having content for endgame players. Okada did a lot right this time around.
Personally, I'd say this update is overall pretty amazing. Before it was either do eHDTs/mHDTs or you're stuck with core/void weapons. Now you can grind Volcanic Chimera for weapons that are as good as HD1 weapons (outside of HDTs), and do standard Agito weeklies to eventually get a weapon on par with HD2 weapons (MUB T1 Agito weapons are essentially a sidegrade to MUB HD2's) even if you're not strong enough for Expert Agito. It's even possible to solo standard Agito after grinding enough Volcanic weapons, or get into the eHDT cycle now by using Volcanic/Agito weapons for eHMS. All this combined with 3-stars, 4-stars, and underperforming 5-stars all becoming significantly more viable if not outright top tier makes this arguably the best patch ever for casual or mid-game players, on top of still having content for endgame players. Okada did a lot right this time around.
Having lots of fun against Agito, still haven't managed to beat him but I've been really close sometimes. I'm personally loving how DL looks now and this was exactly the bridge I was hoping to get from mid to endgame.
Can you elaborate on what you mean?
I'm at a point where I can probably run eHDTs, but I can't do mHDTs. And that's a really heavy probably. Should I work on grinding out the Agito weapon beyond 0UB?
I'm at a point where I can probably run eHDTs, but I can't do mHDTs. And that's a really heavy probably. Should I work on grinding out the Agito weapon beyond 0UB?
If you can't do master dragon trials, you're also not really going to be able to get the agito weapon beyond 0ub. You get one unbind every ten weeks of weeklies, and that's if you don't invest any in the flame tree facility. Agito expert which drops the need item for unbinding (beyond the three you get from weeklies) basically requires T2 high dragon weapons at the moment.
However the chimera and agito weapons are going to make it a fair bit easier to get in to doing high dragon trial expert and getting started towards getting HDT2 weapons
Ah OK. So getting the Agito weapon should help me bridge into expert and master, yeah?
Both a maxed (T2 MUB) Volcanic Chimera weapon and the 0UB Agito weapon can help with that, as they provide similar stats. Both are also significantly better than the core/void weapons you've been using.
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Backing off on upgrading Karl to get Ezelith up since her buffs seem great. Pulled Cassandra, but i don't see any point in really using her when I have Gleo. My water team can solo volcanic chimera, so I think I will dump some stamina into that to make weapons. Still haven't done Agito Uprising on standard. Haven't really tried though.
Edit: I just realized smoldering manticore and chimera are different.
Edit: I just realized smoldering manticore and chimera are different.
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... That's an unfortunate mistake. At least you need to build the manticore weapon to craft the corresponding Volcanic Chimera weapon, so it's not a complete waste?
I don't know if Cygames mentioned it in the notifications but both Dull and Skill Resistance got nerfed today.
Void Ability Changes:
Dull:
Old: Reduces Strength by 90% for 20 seconds
New: Reduces Strength by 40% for 20 seconds
Skill Resistance:
Old: Reduces damage from skills by 75%
New: Reduces damage from skills by 35%
So the 8k+ Lily in Void Agni without void weapon are actually doing good damage now.
Void Ability Changes:
Dull:
Old: Reduces Strength by 90% for 20 seconds
New: Reduces Strength by 40% for 20 seconds
Skill Resistance:
Old: Reduces damage from skills by 75%
New: Reduces damage from skills by 35%
So the 8k+ Lily in Void Agni without void weapon are actually doing good damage now.
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I was reading through the first line in your post and thinking, "Damn." Hahahaha.
The latest update has been fantastic.
Using the Chimera weapons and a 70MC Naveed; I was able to Solo Volk Standard. Team was:
The Volk Standard fight is challenging in the right way. Attacks like the dashes which can wipe characters can be iFramed. Swapping characters to clear the bombs is manageable. If I take a bad hit; I don't need to worry about restarting and trying again. Expert Volk looks intense and out of reach without MUB T2 HDT weapons; but the fact that you can gain Expert material through weeklies (albeit slowly) is wonderful and should be implented with HDT.
This update to me is the opposite of the eHDT release. I don't feel locked out of the game progression anymore if I choose to not play HDT. I can't wait to see what's to come in 2020.
Using the Chimera weapons and a 70MC Naveed; I was able to Solo Volk Standard. Team was:
- Player Controlled - H!Lowen (50MC | MUB Phoenix | MUB ChimeraT1 | Give Me Your Wounded / The Bridal Dragon | +300HP/+300STR)
- Sarisse (50MC | MUB Apollo | MUB ChimeraT1 | Forest Bonds / Odd Sparrows | +200HP/+160STR)
- Naveed (70MC | MUB Cerberus | MUB ChimeraT1 | Mega Friends / Odd Sparrows | +200HP/+180STR)
- Emma (45MC | MUB Ifrit | 0UB ChimeraT1 | Beach Battle / Odd Sparrows | No Augments)
The Volk Standard fight is challenging in the right way. Attacks like the dashes which can wipe characters can be iFramed. Swapping characters to clear the bombs is manageable. If I take a bad hit; I don't need to worry about restarting and trying again. Expert Volk looks intense and out of reach without MUB T2 HDT weapons; but the fact that you can gain Expert material through weeklies (albeit slowly) is wonderful and should be implented with HDT.
This update to me is the opposite of the eHDT release. I don't feel locked out of the game progression anymore if I choose to not play HDT. I can't wait to see what's to come in 2020.
Standard Volk (as HLowen, using Phoenix and 0UB HD1) got way easier already due to people picking to get the 6*s, haha. I think it'll be pretty easy for me to casually farm it for the facility... The wings cost is high, but it's not like I can ever spend all the ashes I have anyway, so I'll go for it.
Meanwhile, I auto farmed Chimera a little and got 1UB into a sword for Naveed when I realized it's uhhhh actually gonna be slightly weaker than using Geuden's MUB HD2, even off-element? Whoops! Obviously the ability will make it better, but since I'm just making it for Standard Volk I'm not sure it matters that much. I think I may leave that there for now and switch to making a dagger for Ezelith instead, since I haven't exactly been using daggers since... I was still using Ezelith over a year ago? Been a while! So unlike swords or wands, I don't have an easy thing to toss on her for the stats like that (especially because sword and wand will probably also be the HD2s I'd get for wind and water). And along those lines, my focus right now for the Spirals is Botan, Naveed, and Ezelith I guess. My wind and light fafnirs are at 16 and 15 respectively, so at least throwing the high dragon orbs at them to finish it isn't much of a problem.
It's just the new elemental orbs that are the issue... I can't believe that wasn't the drop rate problem for the Void dragons. I regret doubting your suggestion to farm the story, Numberfox; the drop rate ain't great! Though at least I can auto farm Volcanic. I should probably wait to see if there's 2x on the normal schedule for it before I do more, but it's not like it's that much of a waste to do some now and not even having a 2x day during the special schedule makes me think it's unlikely... So I'll probably throw some honey at getting that dagger today. And then regret the orbs I already spent on Naveed, before blowing more honey at farming them.
Seriously, even as someone who was more or less enjoying the high dragon cycle grind, it's an exciting update. The progression is a little awkward given that people probably won't expect the huge gap between Standard and Expert Volk, but they've made it much easier to break into eHMS (which was only hard due to dps requirements, rather than mechanics) through both the 6* and the facility, while at least slightly helping with the eHJP problem as well thanks to Botan (and Cassandra) getting buffed. The pace of the new Agito fights, and of when both Agito and Chimera get their T2s, may be what decides how people feel about this long term, but for the time being I hope those who don't enjoy high dragons are happy with this as an alternative/path to them.
Meanwhile, I auto farmed Chimera a little and got 1UB into a sword for Naveed when I realized it's uhhhh actually gonna be slightly weaker than using Geuden's MUB HD2, even off-element? Whoops! Obviously the ability will make it better, but since I'm just making it for Standard Volk I'm not sure it matters that much. I think I may leave that there for now and switch to making a dagger for Ezelith instead, since I haven't exactly been using daggers since... I was still using Ezelith over a year ago? Been a while! So unlike swords or wands, I don't have an easy thing to toss on her for the stats like that (especially because sword and wand will probably also be the HD2s I'd get for wind and water). And along those lines, my focus right now for the Spirals is Botan, Naveed, and Ezelith I guess. My wind and light fafnirs are at 16 and 15 respectively, so at least throwing the high dragon orbs at them to finish it isn't much of a problem.
It's just the new elemental orbs that are the issue... I can't believe that wasn't the drop rate problem for the Void dragons. I regret doubting your suggestion to farm the story, Numberfox; the drop rate ain't great! Though at least I can auto farm Volcanic. I should probably wait to see if there's 2x on the normal schedule for it before I do more, but it's not like it's that much of a waste to do some now and not even having a 2x day during the special schedule makes me think it's unlikely... So I'll probably throw some honey at getting that dagger today. And then regret the orbs I already spent on Naveed, before blowing more honey at farming them.
Seriously, even as someone who was more or less enjoying the high dragon cycle grind, it's an exciting update. The progression is a little awkward given that people probably won't expect the huge gap between Standard and Expert Volk, but they've made it much easier to break into eHMS (which was only hard due to dps requirements, rather than mechanics) through both the 6* and the facility, while at least slightly helping with the eHJP problem as well thanks to Botan (and Cassandra) getting buffed. The pace of the new Agito fights, and of when both Agito and Chimera get their T2s, may be what decides how people feel about this long term, but for the time being I hope those who don't enjoy high dragons are happy with this as an alternative/path to them.
Didn't realize Volcanic Chimera drops orbs for the mana spiral too. Pretty happy to be able to to just auto even the expert level of this. Can't auto Void agni at all =/
