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ZeoVGM

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
76,219
Providence, RI
You're my second favorite sleuth in the saga. The guy that likes to tersely correct my wild speculation in a thread of nothing but wild speculation.

You keep making ridiculous and hyperbolic comments. If I've replied to you a couple times, perhaps step back a bit and think about the situation.

No, being able to use licensed music would not make something a "Twitch killer." That isn't logical. No one cares about that.
 

Armadilo

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
9,877
This is not a stunt. No way.

Why the hell would he do that in these times?
there's no proof that it is, more possibility that it isn't but people would rather believe the worst conspiracy than to believe that Doc did something terrible, whatever it may be.

People were even spreading 4chan Incel propaganda in which they blamed some woman as the reason why it's all her fault and how Doc is being unjustly blackmailed in case such a story ever existed to already have a narrative out there , sad world...
 

Niceguydan8

Member
Nov 1, 2017
3,411
You keep making ridiculous and hyperbolic comments. If I've replied to you a couple times, perhaps step back a bit and think about the situation.

No, being able to use licensed music would not make something a "Twitch killer." That isn't logical. No one cares about that.

The vast majority of the comments here are pretty ridiculous and hyperbolic, that's like the entire thread.

In theory, a service launched by Spotify with the music thing being one feature *could* kill Twitch depending on a bunch of other contributing factors. To not even entertain that idea is more ridiculous than the idea itself.
I find it really weird that only a certain amount of speculation is acceptable.
 

RecRoulette

One Winged Slayer
Member
Oct 25, 2017
26,044
At this point I don't think it's a stunt, but the possibility of the chance of it went from 0 to something. Honestly from a marketing point of view I'd almost respect how insanely brazen it was to pull some shit like that right now.

In the context of "would twitch really do something that stupid" this would be 100% confirmed.

Agreed.
 

DixieDean82

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
11,837
This may end up with a really boring legal reason behind it. Maybe they found he was negotiating with Mixer while still under tiwtch contract. Something like that.
 
Oct 28, 2017
1,865
This is not a stunt. No way.

Why the hell would he do that in these times?

Assuming for a moment the switch to a new platform theory has merit, these things probably have months of contract negotiation behind them and are planned well in advance. The thing that makes the platform-switch theory shakey is the fact that he negotiated a new multi-year contract with twitch only a few months ago.

A Spotify twitch competitor isn't out of the realm of possibility. Spotify has a DAU count of what, 250 million people? What is twitch's? 15 million? Conceivably, Spotify could brute-force its way into the market with the sheer size of its install base.
 
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EagleClaw

Member
Dec 31, 2018
10,697
So you are a twitch partner, you have a signed contract with them, and twitch bans you, damages your "brand" and breaks the contract without any notice?

Nah...
 

Magneto

Prophet of Truth
Banned
Oct 25, 2017
14,449
The vast majority of the comments here are pretty ridiculous and hyperbolic, that's like the entire thread.

In theory, a service launched by Spotify with the music thing being one feature *could* kill Twitch depending on a bunch of other contributing factors. To not even entertain that idea is more ridiculous than the idea itself.
I find it really weird that only a certain amount of speculation is acceptable.
Lol. Because you're going way too far. You apparently don't understand why Twitch is... Well, Twitch. Lemme spoil it for you : Nothing will kill Twitch. Except Twitch themselves.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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The vast majority of the comments here are pretty ridiculous and hyperbolic, that's like the entire thread.

In theory, a service launched by Spotify with the music thing being one feature *could* kill Twitch depending on a bunch of other contributing factors. To not even entertain that idea is more ridiculous than the idea itself.
I find it really weird that only a certain amount of speculation is acceptable.

Tbh I can't see how any new service could take on Amazon's clout. They aren't synergizing as much as they could be bit twitch can pretty much crossover with the rest of their business model.
 
Oct 25, 2017
41,368
Miami, FL
Assuming for a moment the switch to a new platform theory has merit, these things probably have months of contract negotiation behind them and are planned well in advance.

The thing that makes the platform-switch theory shakey is the fact that he negotiated a new multi-year contract with twitch only a few of months ago.
Yea that makes a platform switch very unlikely
 

Niceguydan8

Member
Nov 1, 2017
3,411
Tbh I can't see how any new service could take on Amazon's clout. They aren't synergizing as much as they could be bit twitch can pretty much crossover with the rest of their business model.
That's fair, I largely don't disagree with that. Taking down twitch would be a monumental task, I it's don't think it's impossible, rather highly improbable.

I guess I'm just not real keen on using absolutes like "never." A bunch of highly unlikely events have happened just this year, and happen every other year.
 

oofouchugh

Member
Oct 29, 2017
3,972
Night City
Whats his contract actually *for*? Guaranteed money or a guaranteed streaming platform? Honestly I feel like this is still related to him streaming bathroom footage and Twitch trying to cover their own asses.
 

Delphine

Fen'Harel Enansal
Administrator
Mar 30, 2018
3,658
France
new streaming platform is following streamers...🤯


Coincidentally, the way Brime writes Twitter messages is very similar to the way Doc writes on Twitter as well: short sentences, tiny paragraph, several return to line in the same tweet. This might be nothing at all though, and the fact the overall design of that Twitter account looks a bit amateurish thus far doesn't make me confident.

I'm glad we're circling back to the "Doc is creating his own streaming platform behind Twitch's back" theory though, which was my very first theory about this whole ordeal.
 

Deleted member 57578

User requested account closure
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Jun 7, 2019
283
You keep making ridiculous and hyperbolic comments...That isn't logical. No one cares about that.
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Yeah I don't think I'm gonna be able to explain to you the joy of wild speculation and shooting the shit. These threads move fast because they're funny and fun, not because people are actually fucking detectives on the case.
 

data

Member
Oct 25, 2017
4,722
Coincidentally, the way Brime writes Twitter messages is very similar to the way Doc writes on Twitter as well: short sentences, tiny paragraph, several return to line in the same tweet. This might be nothing at all though, and the fact the overall design of that Twitter account looks a bit amateurish thus far doesn't make me confident.

I'm glad we're circling back to the "Doc is creating his own streaming platform behind Twitch's back" theory though, which was my very first theory about this whole ordeal.
A platform switch I would understand if it was one that could buy of people, but a brand new one? He would need to pay out of his own pocket and I doubt it will be cheap.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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Maybe just coincidence, but the @watchbrime Twitter posted that they'd be answering questions this monday.

And Dr referenced prepare for the 29th.
 

Armadilo

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
9,877
Coincidentally, the way Brime writes Twitter messages is very similar to the way Doc writes on Twitter as well: short sentences, tiny paragraph, several return to line in the same tweet. This might be nothing at all though, and the fact the overall design of that Twitter account looks a bit amateurish thus far doesn't make me confident.

I'm glad we're circling back to the "Doc is creating his own streaming platform behind Twitch's back" theory though, which was my very first theory about this whole ordeal.
well that theory would make sense and people just want a real alternative to Twitch, there's definitely an opportunity to do things right and actually give them a fight, Mixer was barely running and they got Twitch scared by taking talent away.
 

Deleted member 57578

User requested account closure
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Jun 7, 2019
283
Coincidentally, the way Brime writes Twitter messages is very similar to the way Doc writes on Twitter as well: short sentences, tiny paragraph, several return to line in the same tweet.
I love when forensic linguistics exposes people trying to get ahead with bots and alts. A useful skill for an admin no doubt.
 

Delphine

Fen'Harel Enansal
Administrator
Mar 30, 2018
3,658
France
A platform switch I would understand if it was one that could buy of people, but a brand new one? He would need to pay out of his own pocket and I doubt it will be cheap.


I don't disagree. But that very own theory didn't come out of my ass. That plan was literally said by Doc himself on a YouTube video from 2019 where he talks about the huge Ninja leaving Twitch for Mixer mess. He literally says himself that ideally, streamers should band together and create their very own platform, sharing ownership and equity in it and so forth. I'll need to find the video again though but it's definitely something he outwardly told about in the past.
 

sredgrin

Attempted to circumvent ban with alt account
Banned
Oct 27, 2017
12,276
Someone trying to go up against Amazon, Google, Facebook and now Tencent being able to just poach some dude 3 months into a contract just seems far fetched to me.

The person writing that Brime stuff is this guy: https://twitter.com/TheMixerMagic

I mean, it's a Mixer manager(?) account with 4k followers. If this person somehow, in some universe does have the resources to make something, there's no way it's ready in the immediate future.
 

Potato Mage

Alt-Account
Banned
Apr 28, 2020
516
The bar isn't that high compared to Doc.

Here's a handy guide, if you check either of these boxes, you're as bad as Doc.

[ ] - Do you spread well debunked conspiracy theories around COVID-19 being caused by 5G?
[ ] - Do you reference David Icke in a sincere way and not bring him up only to rip him for being a moron?

I don't check either of these boxes, so I'm not a stupid idiot who shares dangerous theories with an impressionable audience. I wouldn't even say most of us are good people, but the bar to being better than Doc at some points is just breathing. If this bothers you, I urge you to reevaluate your shit. This isn't about being morally superior, it's about being happy someone who shares dangerous ideas to an audience, of which is made up of people probably unable to correctly identify these ideas as dangerous, has been banned. I think that's okay personally.

No to both and i don't see anybody in this thread doing either so wtf are you talking about.
 

Nooblet

Member
Oct 25, 2017
13,635
G list celebrity is still celebrity.
He has million+ followers, recognisable outside his following, is a multi millionaire, showed up on Jimmy Fallon as well as WWE show, and until recently was the main streamer in the most popular streaming platform. People can try to downplay it as much as they like but he's a bonafide celebrity much in the same way Ninja is, even if Ninja is a bigger star.
 

Armadilo

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
9,877
Someone trying to go up against Amazon, Google, Facebook and now Tencent being able to just poach some dude 3 months into a contract just seems far fetched to me.

The person writing that Brime stuff is this guy: https://twitter.com/TheMixerMagic

I mean, it's a Mixer manager(?) account with 4k followers. If this person somehow, in some universe does have the resources to make something, there's no way it's ready in the immediate future.
Maybe a fake name until it's actually revealed?
 

data

Member
Oct 25, 2017
4,722
Someone trying to go up against Amazon, Google, Facebook and now Tencent being able to just poach some dude 3 months into a contract just seems far fetched to me.

The person writing that Brime stuff is this guy: https://twitter.com/TheMixerMagic

I mean, it's a Mixer manager(?) account with 4k followers. If this person somehow, in some universe does have the resources to make something, there's no way it's ready in the immediate future.
I don't think they're a manager. I think they're just a streamer from mixer.
 

construct

Saw the truth behind the copied door
Member
Jun 5, 2020
7,965
東京
Someone trying to go up against Amazon, Google, Facebook and now Tencent being able to just poach some dude 3 months into a contract just seems far fetched to me.

The person writing that Brime stuff is this guy: https://twitter.com/TheMixerMagic

I mean, it's a Mixer manager(?) account with 4k followers. If this person somehow, in some universe does have the resources to make something, there's no way it's ready in the immediate future.
i went through a bit of that feed and uh, yeah brime isn't going to be a thing.
 

Delphine

Fen'Harel Enansal
Administrator
Mar 30, 2018
3,658
France
Sharing the video again starting at the exact bit that matters to this discussion:




Someone trying to go up against Amazon, Google, Facebook and now Tencent being able to just poach some dude 3 months into a contract just seems far fetched to me.

The person writing that Brime stuff is this guy: https://twitter.com/TheMixerMagic

I mean, it's a Mixer manager(?) account with 4k followers. If this person somehow, in some universe does have the resources to make something, there's no way it's ready in the immediate future.


Yeah, less likely so indeed, but still interesting, keeping an eye on it.

A useful skill for an admin no doubt.


You actually have NO idea! :'D
 

Razmos

Unshakeable One Winged Slayer
Member
Oct 28, 2017
15,890
How the fuck could it be a stunt or an accident if they have refunded his subscribers? That makes no sense.

Also i don't believe him, he's keeping quiet because that's what his lawyers have told him to do.
 

eonden

Member
Oct 25, 2017
17,087
DrDisrespect making his own streaming service makes no sense once you consider the legal fees of breaking the contract together with the general costs of launching a streaming platform. The idea of "creating a socialized streaming service" is quite cool, but the cost of it is prohibitive right now.
 
Oct 25, 2017
2,636
Damn, I was looking foward to the update but that's basically a nothing of a response, and it's got kinda toxic in here. This isn't so fun anymore.
 

Armadilo

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
9,877
Quote possible.

I remember The Verge web site being called 'ThisIsMyNext' before launch.
Just the problem is the timing and why would doc sign a contract with twitch if the plan was to move all along,

Would just add to the idea that he was caught somehow and twitch banned him, this is twitch after all and they would probably take action when it's a business thing rather than anything else sadly so just maybe
 
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