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Merc_

▲ Legend ▲
Member
Oct 28, 2017
6,523
I'm honestly surprised they banned him as long as they did. It was never going to stick though, he makes them money after all.
 

AmbientRuin

Member
Apr 18, 2019
467
He's a character. It's no different to Keith Lemon on ITV2 or Stephen Colbert when he was on Comedy Central, except the latter actually made out that was his personality in real life. The difference here is it's on a stream.

The real guy is way more chilled out. Whilst it doesn't exclude him from being racist, he has a mixed race wife and daughter, where as the character doesn't.
So he was just ironically recording a child peeing
 

Dodgerfan74

Member
Dec 27, 2017
2,696
It's weird.

Twitch unbans him, none of his sponsors ditch him and thousands of fans flood back to his chat the second it goes back up.

It's almost as if everyone realized there was no malicious intent on Doc's part and it was just a joke that went bad and it was a mistake.

Middle age white men will be boys, after all. Gotta cut him a break!
 

Shlice

Member
Nov 6, 2017
811
25%? Where you getting your figures from..

25% is exaggerated but Doc lost a shit ton of money from this.

If you look at streamer stats, when they aren't streaming they aren't getting subs. When you're gone and a viewers prime sub comes available they give their precious once a month free sub to someone else and now you have to earn that person back the next month after thry have given it to another.
 

Deleted member 16657

User requested account closure
Banned
Oct 27, 2017
10,198
He's prob going to make back whatever he lost on his comeback stream. Punishing streamers by banning them really only works if they don't have a fanbase already.
 

UF_C

Member
Oct 25, 2017
3,346
Well he did put out a "sorry" video so zero remorse is wrong.

If you believed the words himself that is another story, if you don't would be intresting to hear what he need to do to atone himself.
Why does he need to apologize to anyone other than the kid who got caught on camera?
 

Chairmanchuck (另一个我)

Teyvat Traveler
Member
Oct 25, 2017
9,072
China
He's a character. It's no different to Keith Lemon on ITV2 or Stephen Colbert when he was on Comedy Central, except the latter actually made out that was his personality in real life. The difference here is it's on a stream.

The real guy is way more chilled out. Whilst it doesn't exclude him from being racist, he has a mixed race wife and daughter, where as the character doesn't.

And that is why most likely he wont be the "asshole to black people", but to asians.

"Its just a character man!"
 

OrdinaryPrime

Self-requested ban
Banned
Oct 27, 2017
11,042
He's a character. It's no different to Keith Lemon on ITV2 or Stephen Colbert when he was on Comedy Central, except the latter actually made out that was his personality in real life. The difference here is it's on a stream.

The real guy is way more chilled out. Whilst it doesn't exclude him from being racist, he has a mixed race wife and daughter, where as the character doesn't.

I don't know who Keith Lemon is but Colbert was doing it to mock conservatives, what is the purpose of Doc's character? Besides making him lots of money. Why are you acting like the character and the person aren't the same thing and don't have the same values? It's so bizarre to me to have this defense, it really is.
 

Deleted member 18944

User requested account closure
Banned
Oct 27, 2017
6,944
I think ERA really represents a minority vocal (just like elections). We all dislike something/someone, the masses like them instead. We all wish DrDisrespect would be banned forever, but out there, a majority of gamers like him and can't wait for him to be unbanned. I think the ban did made him even more famous now. Even without going live.. his chat is going nuts now..

I must have missed the memo on what he did wrong that made everyone dislike him? Was it the cheating or something else?
 

Chairmanchuck (另一个我)

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Member
Oct 25, 2017
9,072
China
I must have missed the memo on what he did wrong that made everyone dislike him? Was it the cheating or something else?

Filming a minor peeing as a prank.
Even if the minor wouldnt be in the bathroom, filming other people in a really private situation like peeing as a prank, violating their personal rights.
"ching chang chong" like speech more than once.
 

Yerffej

Prophet of Regret
Member
Oct 25, 2017
23,483
He's a character. It's no different to Keith Lemon on ITV2 or Stephen Colbert when he was on Comedy Central, except the latter actually made out that was his personality in real life. The difference here is it's on a stream.

The real guy is way more chilled out. Whilst it doesn't exclude him from being racist, he has a mixed race wife and daughter, where as the character doesn't.
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Deleted member 18944

User requested account closure
Banned
Oct 27, 2017
6,944
Filming a minor peeing as a prank.
Even if the minor wouldnt be in the bathroom, filming other people in a really private situation like peeing as a prank, violating their personal rights.
"ching chang chong" like speech more than once.

Oh the filming in the bathroom was part of his idea? I thought the camera guy was in the wrong 100% and that's why they fired him. I don't really keep up with these Twitch personalities.
 

Chairmanchuck (另一个我)

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Member
Oct 25, 2017
9,072
China
Oh the filming in the bathroom was part of his idea? I thought the camera guy was in the wrong 100% and that's why they fired him. I don't really keep up with these Twitch personalities.

Its even in the OP:

He went to public bathroom with camera man 4 times. Last time he went he even encouraged camera man to film him and his "security" peeing in urinals.
 

dragonbane

Member
Oct 26, 2017
4,583
Germany
Twitch will only ban the biggest earners permanently after several transgressions. This is known since a long while. He would have to do something truly heinous like streaming child porn to get offed immediately.

Sad reality, but it obviously makes sense for Twitch. Even Narcissa, with a much smaller audience at the end, survived 4 individual bans for streaming pirated films, sleeping on stream for 10 hours, running around naked, being intoxicated and stoned and streaming porn before being permanently banned.
 

Ragnorok64

Banned
Nov 6, 2017
2,955
This has been amazing to observe since it seems people in this thread invented scenarios where-in he'd be permabanned, sued, and thrown in jail and are now upset things haven't proceeded as such. But at no point, to my knowledge, was there ever an actual indication that police were involved or that anyone was filing charges.

What did people realistically expect would happen? I thought maybe he might get a 1 month ban, but never expected a perma from a first IRL stream ever, mishap.
 

Lylo

Member
Oct 25, 2017
3,168
Personally, i like DrDisrespect in the same way i like Eric Cartman, POS characters with questionable opinions, but both funny in the context they are presented. However, filming on a public bathroom is not only wrong, but also illegal, so i think a longer ban should have been applied.
 

EloKa

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Oct 25, 2017
1,905
Well then now I wonder why the cameraman got fired if it was the Docs idea... seems pretty wack he only got two weeks for that then.
Nobody got fired. It's a repeating prank that he fires an imaginery guy named "Alex" when something goes wrong since some years or so. Even non-journalists know that
 

Messofanego

Member
Oct 25, 2017
26,095
UK
He's a character. It's no different to Keith Lemon on ITV2 or Stephen Colbert when he was on Comedy Central, except the latter actually made out that was his personality in real life. The difference here is it's on a stream.

The real guy is way more chilled out. Whilst it doesn't exclude him from being racist, he has a mixed race wife and daughter, where as the character doesn't.
Ah, so he's a racist character, cool so why is he racist then? What's the goal, is he punching down with some really outdated racism?
Or it could just be you can't handle DrDisrespect being a bit of a racist.
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Billfisto

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Oct 30, 2017
14,911
Canada
He's a character. It's no different to Keith Lemon on ITV2 or Stephen Colbert when he was on Comedy Central, except the latter actually made out that was his personality in real life. The difference here is it's on a stream.

The real guy is way more chilled out. Whilst it doesn't exclude him from being racist, he has a mixed race wife and daughter, where as the character doesn't.

Cool.

This may be shocking to you, but a character is not a distinct, separate person. If I put on a wig and call myself Gentleman Jerk, that doesn't mean Billfisto is not responsible for Gentleman Jerk's actions. Nobody else is writing his words. All the things that Dr. Disrespect says or does are solely coming from the mind of Guy Beahm. If Dr. Disrespect says something racist, or films a bathroom, it's because Guy Beahm in a wig did so.

Also, props at legitimately dropping "he can't be racist, he has a mixed race wife and daughter." Hope you got a good deal on that "Defending Rscists" Starter Pack.

I personally don't care about his personal beliefs.and opinions , but I don't like racism, I just see he's streaming sometimes when my cousin is watching. He's funny sometimes. And real good playing fps

It's weird, if I see someone I find mildly funny once or twice with no further context, I don't go out of my way to defend them if someone sufficiently outlines why they're problematic. In most cases I just think to myself "oh well, I barely have any attachment to them, I'll just avoid their content in the future."
 

jeyu

Member
Dec 6, 2018
168
Cool.

This may be shocking to you, but a character is not a distinct, separate person. If I put on a wig and call myself Gentleman Jerk, that doesn't mean Billfisto is not responsible for Gentleman Jerk's actions. Nobody else is writing his words. All the things that Dr. Disrespect says or does are solely coming from the mind of Guy Beahm. If Dr. Disrespect says something racist, or films a bathroom, it's because Guy Beahm in a wig did so.

Also, props at legitimately dropping "he can't be racist, he has a mixed race wife and daughter." Hope you got a good deal on that "Defending Rscists" Starter Pack.



It's weird, if I see someone I find mildly funny once or twice with no further context, I don't go out of my way to defend them if someone sufficiently outlines why they're problematic. In most cases I just think to myself "oh well, I barely have any attachment to them, I'll just avoid their content in the future."
Nah, I have more important matters to attend in life. I know that people nowadays give much importance on people opinions on the internet . But I really not into it . I see something I like I Ijust watch it. I respect those who care though.
 

Chairmanchuck (另一个我)

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Oct 25, 2017
9,072
China
I was making a point about how the character is different to the real person, and prefaced it by making clear it doesn't mean he isn't racist.

When you pick and mix what you reply to, you're only playing yourself.

What does it matter if Dr. Disrespect or Mr. John Doe who is "playing" him make racist jokes?
In the end the joke was written by John Doe.

I cant just tell people to go fuck themselves and then hide behind "Well. Its not Kevin that said it, it was Chairmanchuck. Thats his shtick!"
 

OrdinaryPrime

Self-requested ban
Banned
Oct 27, 2017
11,042
Nah, I have more important matters to attend in life. I know that people nowadays give much importance on people opinions on the internet . But I really not into it . I see something I like I Ijust watch it. I respect those who care though.

I'm not really into your apathy. I respect the people that care about you though.
 

Quample

Member
Dec 23, 2017
3,231
Cincinnati, OH
User banned (1 week): defending racist jokes
Did Doc do anything besides make fun of an accent? I'm still baffled when people call him racist. The hate train here is strong.
 

Paxton25

Member
May 9, 2018
1,898
User banned (3 days): trolling and antagonizing other members
im so happy Era is full of perfect people who never break laws
 

Naru

Member
May 11, 2019
2,372
He wears a wig and headphones even at conventions, then one day he came on Twitch without this outfit and cried about cheating on his wife, went dark and then came back a few weeks later with the same wig and outfit. I mean... if that doesn't tell you what's up I don't know what will. But people seem to love him so who am I to say what's crazy or not...
 

fadedbones

Member
Oct 25, 2017
1,589
This is the last straw for me. He shouldn't be allowed back on the platform, but he makes money, same with the others like him, and thats all that matters to Twitch as a company. Disabling my account and no longer using it.
 

Oligarchenemy

Member
Oct 25, 2017
2,332
Did Doc do anything besides make fun of an accent? I'm still baffled when people call him racist. The hate train here is strong.

I think you stans are far worse. I also really don't understand how any of his garbage is funny to anyone above 15. It seems like it's just fart jokes and shitty "totally not racist" accents.
 

DiceHands

Member
Oct 27, 2017
4,636
Lol so it lasted about a week. Pretty typical of twitch.

Small streamer gets game early and streams it, banned for life. Big time streamer films children in a bathroom, one week max.

Bravo Twitch.
 
Nov 14, 2017
1,587
He lost likely $10,000+ by not streaming for a few weeks, not even knowing what kind of legal trouble he's in and all of that (probably quite a bit), so I don't have any issues with him being allowed to stream again. The punishment shouldn't have been permanent.
Is this... a reasonable opinion...?

On a forum where most people are left, where we (supposedly) believe in second chances, it's funny how many people are screaming permaban.
 
Oct 30, 2017
15,278
Is this... a reasonable opinion...?

On a forum where most people are left, where we (supposedly) believe in second chances, it's funny how many people are screaming permaban.
We rarely, if ever, do that (re: Etika). DrDisrespect, however, is a terrible personality who shows no remorse for his actions. He's like the Louis CK of Twitch streaming; he thinks by digging himself in deeper, he is somehow being funny, contrarian, and subverting expectations. In reality, it just makes him look like a genuinely unlikable asshole.
 

Hazard71

Banned
Nov 1, 2017
93
The bathroom filming was ignorant and he desreved to be banned for it. Glad he is back know though he is funny and enjoyable to watch.