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Doug Ford: Canada doesn't have 'systemic, deep roots' of racism that U.S. does
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Better than Legault who did not back down at all when I watched a press conference with him earlier this week. He even doubled down on police not needing cameras.
got called "sand n****r" at my first job at IKEA selling hotdogs, chalked it up to the retail experience.
just a couple years ago in the professional game industry a "teammate" called me a "sand n****r" and then the inner circle iced me out because I wasn't willing to entertain "the joke." people that were supposed to be on my TEAM were upset that I would besmirch Tyler's "obviously not racist" honour. People I thought would be lifelong friends. now that circle moved to the biggest game in town and I can't even get a call back for interviews. fuck em.
and fuck anyone who says this shit doesn't exist here, we still have lots of work to do.
just a couple years ago in the professional game industry a "teammate" called me a "sand n****r" and then the inner circle iced me out because I wasn't willing to entertain "the joke." people that were supposed to be on my TEAM were upset that I would besmirch Tyler's "obviously not racist" honour. People I thought would be lifelong friends. now that circle moved to the biggest game in town and I can't even get a call back for interviews. fuck em.
and fuck anyone who says this shit doesn't exist here, we still have lots of work to do.
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I've lived in Canada and have visited several times. I'd say about 80% of the homeless, alcoholics, drug addicts, down on their lucks that I saw were indigenous people of Canada. It was quite a shock. Whenever I tried to talk to people about it they'd just look at the floor and shuffle their feet.
Canada had internment camps for Italians, Ukrainians, and others, too.
Saskatoon freezing deaths - Wikipedia
From at least 1976 possibly to the current day.
The article even details attempts to remove mentions of these crimes from the Wikipedia article for the Saskatoon Police Service by the police service itself.
Our racism is a lot more subtle, more subdued. It's also very much there and aboriginal groups receive the brunt of it.
It's also a clusterfuck of a mess stretched out over a century and I don't think there will ever be a solution at this point. I've read interesting documents like the Reclaiming Power and Place (the missing indigenous women's report) for their perspective and the amount of recommendations in there are daunting.
I'd imagine most Canadians view themselves as being less racist than they actually are, too, especially by region. Having spent a lot of time in both BC and Alberta, I'd say BC is probably worse for racism but people living their love to point to AB as a way to deflect from themselves.
It's also a clusterfuck of a mess stretched out over a century and I don't think there will ever be a solution at this point. I've read interesting documents like the Reclaiming Power and Place (the missing indigenous women's report) for their perspective and the amount of recommendations in there are daunting.
I'd imagine most Canadians view themselves as being less racist than they actually are, too, especially by region. Having spent a lot of time in both BC and Alberta, I'd say BC is probably worse for racism but people living their love to point to AB as a way to deflect from themselves.
Fuck Ford, obviously. Any country created through colonialism has problems with racism.
If the NDP couldn't do it last election, I;m not sure if they can pull it off. It could still happen, of course but it is going to be tough. Ford is going to have to lose all his good will he gained from Covid and then some. Del Duca seems pretty bland and unpopular but he is still a fresh face, so I feel like Ontario Liberals are going to get a bump no matter what. Plus, they are polling really well currently because the Federal Liberals are polling well.
Oh and no matter what Horvath does, public perception of the NDP is poisoned by the ghost of Bob Rae because Ontarians are fucking morons.
If the NDP couldn't do it last election, I;m not sure if they can pull it off. It could still happen, of course but it is going to be tough. Ford is going to have to lose all his good will he gained from Covid and then some. Del Duca seems pretty bland and unpopular but he is still a fresh face, so I feel like Ontario Liberals are going to get a bump no matter what. Plus, they are polling really well currently because the Federal Liberals are polling well.
Oh and no matter what Horvath does, public perception of the NDP is poisoned by the ghost of Bob Rae because Ontarians are fucking morons.
I shared my views on racism in Canada earlier in the thread, but wanted to add a recent experience of subtle racism towards me and my wife. We went to a B&B a few months ago a couple of hours outside the city around Canada Day. We were hungry and this was past the time the B&B was offering dinner. They offered us leftovers which are normally fine, however because it was our last day we wanted to make it a date night. We went to a local Chinese restaurant in the town as it was the biggest non-franchise one in town and we thought hey let's taste what their Chinese food will taste like.
The subtle racism we experienced was they kept us segregated in the restaurant from everyone else. We were the only minorities we saw at the restaurant other than the cooks and the restaurant was busy. We had full view of who entering and leaving the restaurant. Everyone else was seated in the main area of the restaurant or the patio section. We got the section that was dimly lit with no other customers ever seated near us. We didn't make a big deal as we kind of expected it based off earlier experience when we were visiting the smaller shops in town. Food as shitty as well btw, not even close to authentic Chinese food.
The subtle racism we experienced was they kept us segregated in the restaurant from everyone else. We were the only minorities we saw at the restaurant other than the cooks and the restaurant was busy. We had full view of who entering and leaving the restaurant. Everyone else was seated in the main area of the restaurant or the patio section. We got the section that was dimly lit with no other customers ever seated near us. We didn't make a big deal as we kind of expected it based off earlier experience when we were visiting the smaller shops in town. Food as shitty as well btw, not even close to authentic Chinese food.
Fuck off Doug. Tell me there's no racism when I more often than not get swabbed at Pearson, was forced to go to ESL when English is my first language, my family has had the cops called on them multiple times cause we had played different music or cooked different food, have been told to clean up my skin, shunned because I'm West Indian but listen to rock music, been told by friends they can't be friends anymore, get numerous microagressions to this day, and way more shit that I had to deal with because I was reminded I'm brown. We have our fucking problems. Don't fucking forget it.
Hey fellow Saskatonian.
Yeah, you really hit the nail on the head of one of the uniquely disgusting aspects of Indigenous racism, how immigrants and other PoC are frequently incentivized into joining white people in their racism towards the Indigenous as though it was some sort of bonding experience. Most don't take the bait, but some sadly do. It happens to black people in North America as well, but I can't say it's nearly as pervasive. Someone can feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.
I think (but can't confirm) it's why many Indigenous activists in Canada use the term "settlers" to describe their aggressors, to signal that their aggressors are anyone who benefits from colonialism in Canada while disregarding or degrading Indigenous existence and humanity.
I am from Southern Alberta and I can attest that racism against First Nations has always been a thing here. Heck my parents still are racist towards them.
Hello to you too. Nice to see other people from Saskatoon online who aren't racist shit heads.
So are my parents. My mom experienced a very violent childhood with abusive parents, so it always confuses and saddens me that instead finding solidarity with the First Nation experience, she always mocks them and makes it about her: "My parents beat the shit outta me, where's MY money", "They don't know how lucky they where to be taken from their parents, because I WISHED that happened to me", "They lost, we won, so they should shut up". I could go on. Whole family is like that, even the non-Canadians who married into the family, almost like they get brainwashed.
Funny, her being over the top racist is what made me look into history in general, then the history of the First Nations. Because I couldn't believe anyone could be that bad.
Ford is the personification of the memes of Canada on the internet where everything is just right, and everyone else is the one with racism problems.
Zero reflection. Zero accountability.
Zero reflection. Zero accountability.
Saskatchewan in the 1920's had the highest number of KKK members per capita in all of North America. In fact it was the single group with the highest membership in all of Saskatchewan at the time. That kind of hatred and bigotry doesn't just die out in a couple generations.