"Each player now has their own courier automatically"
LOL im reinstalling just to see 5 couriers running on the map lol.
LOL im reinstalling just to see 5 couriers running on the map lol.
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Dota 2 update adds 2 new heroes plus massive changes; Droppable consumables, etc.
- Thread starter Poetic Injustice
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I'd say this is the second major overhaul of the game since its release, the previous one being patch 7.00 which was also huge. It remains to be seen which of those two are more impactful, but it's definitely up there. You have two major new mechanics added to the game between the neutral item drops and the outposts, two new heroes, plus hundreds of balance changes. The net effect of all this is that player roles will be majorly impacted in ways that aren't easy to predict, supports in particular will be shaken up entirely.
The neutral drop addition also just adds a new vector for injecting a huge load of new content to the game, as it's increased the number of items overall by about 40%. The new items have a bunch of unique and wacky abilities, which will add a lot of variety to the game.
They've made loads of changes to the ultra late-game too, and it looks like things will just get absolutely crazy once you get past 70+ minutes between the level 30 heroes carrying tier 5 neutral drops with 6-slotted couriers. It seems geared towards giving players a bunch of new toys to close out the games sooner, which is a good change.
It's a great time to start playing imo, everyone else is just getting used to the changes too and you won't be burdened by any assumptions about how things used to work. It's obviously still a really complex and difficult game, but it's equally fascinating and rewarding. I suggest you pick one or two heroes you like and then just play them a bunch as you learn the game.
Jungle areas are definately much less clustered now and you don't have many hide / juke opportunities.
Entrances to the jungles are kinda the same but the insides are pretty much open area for team fights.
Are all of the Creep Items consumables or are there just a small handful?
Snapfire looks very fun. Void Spirit looks great for carry players.
Game is gonna turn wacky this patch.
Edit: FREE WARDS !?!?
Snapfire looks very fun. Void Spirit looks great for carry players.
Game is gonna turn wacky this patch.
Edit: FREE WARDS !?!?
The whole buying items thing I have trouble with is that there are so many of them. I had fun playing the sniper I think... unless they are a horrible character.
For most of the game it's actually less micro-management. You now have your own personal courier, and so you dont have to worry about other player's needing to use the team courier.
It's only late game when things could get micro-managey, but I really don't think it will come up very much in low tier games to be honest. It's all really ultra late game stuff in a patch that seems to emphasise closing the game out earlier. This is my understanding of how it works:
- At level 25 couriers grant the ability to use items.
- Couriers don't have mana, stats or mana regen by default.
- You can purchase a mana item to give the courier mana, at which point they can use item abilities which cost mana.
- couriers are now slower than the previous patch
- If you lose your courier you lose your passive gold income
The guides are a great addition for helping with this specific problem. It tells you all the viable items to buy for your particular hero.
I recommend the Torte De Lini guides.
With Dota + you get a suggested item feature that will dynamically recommend items for you depending on role and lane.
Hmmm, maybe I'll install it just to see.
But that 6.82 or whatever update really pissed me off, and Siege started becoming good at the same time and I jumped on that as the main MP game.
If anything, doesn't this help to put you on a leveled field with the others?
Sounds like the perfect time to start playing again since everyone is a new player again essentially.
Although a good change, I am slightly worried about the wards being free since now there isn't really any barrier to the mid player or somone just buying up the wards to use for themselves or placing them in dumb spots.
Although a good change, I am slightly worried about the wards being free since now there isn't really any barrier to the mid player or somone just buying up the wards to use for themselves or placing them in dumb spots.
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Seems like he was stuck in the void for some time, therefore coming with the purple skin as a default.
Seems like he was stuck in the void for some time, therefore coming with the purple skin as a default.
Yeah exactly.
The game is too fundamentally different to call it Dota 2.
The tier 1-4 items aren't that a game changer unless you pick the right hero AND get an item they can abuse through synergy.
Tier 5 ensures even poverty 5 players who would still have only brown boots 40 minutes in should become six slotted in 50 minutes.
The economics of items are really different now because the opportunity costs of farming vs pushing, lane shoving and fighting have now been negatively impacted once tier 5s are possible to get.
The side shop removal for outposts is the second fundamental change. Everyone having their own courier offsets item access but now xp farming over gold farming is going to be something certain heros should consider based on their tool sets.
Overall I like what I'm seeing except for three things.
Unlocking all talents at 30 is terrible idea and just gets us back to the old way end game heros were balanced but with a lot more complexity.
I don't see this change lasting more than 6 months after many attempts to rein it in.
Pirate hat as tier 5 is unmitigated trash. It stands out really badly against the others.
I really don't understand the mud golem nerf. It was unwarranted especially after every other creep got massive buffs.
Tier 5 Items are only available after the match has gone on for longer than 70 minutes
Dota's had VR spectating for years, and it's actually kind of amazing. Seeing teamfights at real scale is a trip, even if the game is mostly impossible to follow at ground level.
He was streaming all day yesterday, so it's up on his Twitch archives. If people notice Stadia running poorly today it's because Purge is using all of Google's resources to process his Youtube upload.
Except that they broke Dota VR a while back and it has been broken for months. You can't press anything to go spectate matches, and Valve doesn't seem to care
Shame. I didn't have my Rift set up during the international this year so I guess I haven't tried since last year's.
Damn this is disappointing to hear - I just picked up a VR headset and was wondering if VR was still a thing for spectating.
Hopefully I'll be attending TI10 in person at least...
I expect the random jungle item idea to either be scrapped or completely overhauled before long. I think it's gonna be real difficult to balance that properly. I think it needs to be more predictable.