Doom Eternal - The Digital Foundry Tech Review - id Tech 7 Is Incredible

xyla · Mar 22, 2020

I'm really exited to see the Switch port. I don't intend to double dip as I already got it on PC, but it's gonna be fascinating to see how they will transition this engine on Switch. It seems more flexible without the Megatexture, but it also punches way above the current generations weight.

Would be awesome to learn that it runs as well or even better than Doom 2016.

Koukalaka · Mar 22, 2020

Between the test at the end with reducing the resolution in order to maximize frame rates, and LowSpecGamer's video, I'm really excited to see how this runs on Switch.

The scalability already seems crazy.

WellbornWarrior · Mar 22, 2020

It's a bit unrelated but does anyone else have the problem that they can't put the resolution of the video down from 4k? Youtube as a whole acts really funky since they announced to reduce video quality funnily enough.

th1nk · Mar 22, 2020

OK the performance in general is great, but during a certain late-game boss fight with lots of fire

Khan Makyr

the performance absolutely tanks on PS4 Pro. Weapon switching suddenly has 1 second input lag and everything becomes sluggish, which makes this fight incredibly frustrating, especially as it requires pin-point accuracy. What a let down and it definitely leaves a bad after-taste. I had to use the easy mode armor for the first time due to these issues. Next-gen with proper CPUs can not come soon enough!

Maybe the FOV max I set in options also impacts this fight...

Dark1x · Mar 23, 2020

th1nk said:
OK the performance in general is great, but during a certain late-game boss fight with lots of fire

Khan Makyr

the performance absolutely tanks on PS4 Pro. Weapon switching suddenly has 1 second input lag and everything becomes sluggish, which makes this fight incredibly frustrating, especially as it requires pin-point accuracy. What a let down and it definitely leaves a bad after-taste. I had to use the easy mode armor for the first time due to these issues. Next-gen with proper CPUs can not come soon enough!

Maybe the FOV max I set in options also impacts this fight...

Huh, that's curious. I haven't made it that far on PS4 yet. Could it be heat related?

th1nk · Mar 23, 2020

Dark1x said:
Huh, that's curious. I haven't made it that far on PS4 yet. Could it be heat related?

I played a few hours yesterday until I arrived at this boss, so could be. "Absolutely tanks" was maybe an exaggeration, because I was furious at this moment. It feels however like 40 frames instead of 60 during the most heated (and thus most deadly) moments of the fight. The input lag during weapon switching was especially unbearable, it really was a second or more or did not register at all. Maybe it was a bug... anyone else bothered by this boss?

Nintendo · Mar 23, 2020

WellbornWarrior said:
It's a bit unrelated but does anyone else have the problem that they can't put the resolution of the video down from 4k? Youtube as a whole acts really funky since they announced to reduce video quality funnily enough.

Do you have a browser extension that forces 4K quality?

WellbornWarrior · Mar 23, 2020

Nintendo said:
Do you have a browser extension that forces 4K quality?

Oh wow you're right. Totally forgot about it. I normally set it to 1080p but in this case it somehow forced 4k. Thanks.

Mona · Mar 23, 2020

looks like an incredible upgrade over idtech 6

misho8723 · Mar 23, 2020

I must say that I'm suprisingly disappointed with the graphics in this compared to previous Doom .. textures even on enemies seem less detailed that they were in 2016 and this is even more shown in the model viewer... there are some really blocky looking objects and environments and particle effects apart from fire are not impressive at all too .. this is all with graphics set on UN.. in the case of the enemy models that be cause of the fact that they now after taking damage are falling apart, but when it comes to the other aspects I don't know what happened

Dark1x · Mar 23, 2020

misho8723 said:
I must say that I'm suprisingly disappointed with the graphics in this compared to previous Doom .. textures even on enemies seem less detailed that they were in 2016 and this is even more shown in the model viewer... there are some really blocky looking objects and environments and particle effects apart from fire are not impressive at all too .. this is all with graphics set on UN.. in the case of the enemy models that be cause of the fact that they now after taking damage are falling apart, but when it comes to the other aspects I don't know what happened

I have no clue what you're talking about. What specific items are you looking at that would lead to this conclusion? It genuinely does not make sense.

misho8723 · Mar 23, 2020

Dark1x said:
I have no clue what you're talking about. What specific items are you looking at that would lead to this conclusion? It genuinely does not make sense.

I don't have how to take screens from my own game, but this is what I mean..
Lower textures and more flat looking lighting (and this is not only case in the model viewer) compared to previous game

But thanks to the artstyle in places and when the player isn't looking at objects from near, then the game can still look pretty decent in some places

mavericktopgun · Mar 23, 2020

RestEerie said:
man, seeing the amount of triangles in wireframes mesh.....we've definitely come a long way in terms of tech..

I can't imagine how this game is possible on the Switch...

SunBroDave · Mar 23, 2020

SleepSmasher said:
I know - different opinions and all, but the praise here is quite different from Eurogamer's official review - which I personally didn't like by the way.
I believe Dark1x is a huge Doom fan, but his comments are much more in line with what I think than Edwin's take - basically the game is worst than 2016 because it's more of the same plus more content? Or at least that's what I got from his review.

That's a supremely odd take from Eurogamer. Doom Eternal is massively different from Doom '16, in like nearly every way outside of the music

Elfotografoalocado · Mar 23, 2020

Dark1x said:
I have no clue what you're talking about. What specific items are you looking at that would lead to this conclusion? It genuinely does not make sense.

The lighting is a lot more flat compared to 2016, specular is much less emphasized too, which makes everything look sort of flat and matte.

RingRang · Mar 23, 2020

Has anyone else playing on XB1X seen the momentary pauses shown on this video? Wondering if it was just a hard drive issue, or more common.

IOnEI Falcon · Mar 23, 2020

RingRang said:
Has anyone else playing on XB1X seen the momentary pauses shown on this video? Wondering if it was just a hard drive issue, or more common.

No, been playing on XBX since launch and haven't had that happen to me once.

KDR_11k · Mar 23, 2020

RingRang said:
Has anyone else playing on XB1X seen the momentary pauses shown on this video? Wondering if it was just a hard drive issue, or more common.

I got some freezes on the PC but I also had Folding @ Home running in the background so who knows.

RingRang · Mar 23, 2020

IOnEI Falcon said:
No, been playing on XBX since launch and haven't had that happen to me once.

Thanks

nDesh · Mar 23, 2020

How is the HDR?

nStruct · Mar 23, 2020

nDesh said:
How is the HDR?

Some of the best I've seen on my LG C7, and there is a healthy set of calibration options.

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