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DOOM 3 is Native 4k/60fps on Xbox One X
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Doom 3 was the only game I've ever gone to a midnight launch event for. I still really enjoy it. I love the new DOOM game, but feel it lost some of the horror of the original, which, along with enemy design/art, are the areas where 3 is superior (in my opinion).
I had a Pentium 4 @2.6GHz (non-HT), 9700 Pro, and 1 GB of RAM. I think I played at 1024x768 as well? Though I played on high. I recall that the Ultra setting was recommended for GPUs with at least 512 MB of RAM (of which none existed at the time). I remember trying ultra out and it working, but the performance wasn't great at the res I wanted to play at.
I had a Pentium 4 @2.6GHz (non-HT), 9700 Pro, and 1 GB of RAM. I think I played at 1024x768 as well? Though I played on high. I recall that the Ultra setting was recommended for GPUs with at least 512 MB of RAM (of which none existed at the time). I remember trying ultra out and it working, but the performance wasn't great at the res I wanted to play at.
I owned a 9700 non-Pro and man was I angry that I would have to play @ medium settings to get a decent framerate.
Who the hell did id think they were?! The game was showcased with the graphics card I owned and the performance must have been better than that!
(Until id got angry that some worker @ AMD leaked the alpha online and made id switch to team green which ended up favouring the GeForce 4 XT cards)
I remember switching to an NVidia 6800 years later and marveling at the Gfx effects missing in the Radeon cards (like the heat/wave distorsions from the imp projectiles)
I wonder how the Doom 3 port on original xbox ran. I picked it up for switch and x1. Switch performance was kinda iffy during my time (~1 hour docked) with it. Hopefully it steadies or plays better in handheld. Haven't booted the x1 version yet.
I remember renting Doom 3 for the OG Xbox and barely being able to play it because I was so scared.
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A few shots I grabbed last night:
The visuals have aged tremendously well.
Man that does look good it could easily be current gen. It was a very forward looking game though with a ton of new tech.
This heat wave effect certainly wasn't missing with my 9700 pro. The Geforce 4 MX cards did miss it though, due to their limited pixel shaders support.
By the way, the game was demo'ed on a 9700 pro, not on a plain 9700. Significant performance gap between both.
Oh I see, thanks!
Seems like it was somewhat different to how I remembered it, nevertheless that was a very special time for Pc gaming and the Radeon 9700 was a pretty decent card nonetheless (and the 9800 Pro was the unachievable dream for me back then lol)
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To be fair, character models are definitely dated, and pretty much all textures are on the blurry side when you're up close to them, but the game still looks incredible and was definitely several years ahead of the curve, visually.
Doom 3 might have been well optimized game for its day but efficient one it is not, a bit like Crysis. For example the way lighting works is quite old fashioned and AFAIK was one of the reasons for limiting flashlight rather than gameplay design decision. Each light would add one render pass more and draw objects affected by lights so if you have complex object lit by four lights that would mean rendering it four times. Nowadays there are different ways of tackling this and also much more efficient forward methods.
But that is just the way tech evolves and Doom 3 was important step. It's also really cool that id released source code for both D3 and BFG edition so one can look into the (rather readable) code and see how it works. There are also excellent articles about id engine tech including Doom 3: http://fabiensanglard.net/
But that is just the way tech evolves and Doom 3 was important step. It's also really cool that id released source code for both D3 and BFG edition so one can look into the (rather readable) code and see how it works. There are also excellent articles about id engine tech including Doom 3: http://fabiensanglard.net/
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Agreed. Made you feel like you were living in the world instead of menus showing up on your TV
since we're all here hemming and hawing over Doom 3, I'm curious: what is ERA's pick for the best version of this game to buy in 2019? for example, on PC, is the OG Doom 3 SKU + mods better than Doom 3 BFG + mods? I haven't played D3 since launch and am mulling how to get back into it.
EDIT: to clarify, I am certainly leaning towards original Doom 3 to cash in on the heightened darkness + required flashlight button-tap, but I have no idea if there's a modern set of mods in development to pair with that edition.
EDIT: to clarify, I am certainly leaning towards original Doom 3 to cash in on the heightened darkness + required flashlight button-tap, but I have no idea if there's a modern set of mods in development to pair with that edition.
I'm quite surprised is not 4k native on Pro too. I mean, the graphic is incredibly dated. If I'm not wrong Hitman Bloody money is it?
Absolutely no. Solely the texture and characters polycounts are awful for the today standard. It's quite apparent even for the less expert.
Just to be clear, people are "surprised" (i.e., pleased but were curious) that it's 4K/60fps because the listing on the Marketplace doesn't show it as being Enhanced for 1X.
This is awesome news, and since Bethesda fixed that issue of stripping digital ownership from Doom/Doom II buyers, I'm back to positive mindshare here. Bring on Doom 64!
This is awesome news, and since Bethesda fixed that issue of stripping digital ownership from Doom/Doom II buyers, I'm back to positive mindshare here. Bring on Doom 64!
i see visible jagged edges on the top right step in the 2nd pic that arent there in the 1st. looking on my 4k monitor. also the shadow res under the railsfor anyone who can pixel count I guess, but they look the same to me
DOOM 3 BFG at 4K on PC with 4XAA and the other PS4 Pro at 4K output
Yeah the AA differences are easy to spot, I've only viewed these shots on my 1440p monitor, but I could not see any resolution differences there.
Doom 3 OG, with mods you can make it look like this, im really shocked BFG didn't improve the very low polygon character models, it's the main reason people said HL2 looked better & i would have thought Id would have noticed that, but i guess not.
Doom 3 OG, with mods you can make it look like this, im really shocked BFG didn't improve the very low polygon character models, it's the main reason people said HL2 looked better & i would have thought Id would have noticed that, but i guess not.
Redoing all the models would have been a lot of extra work, even though yes I would have apprecaited it.
Doom 3 OG, with mods you can make it look like this, im really shocked BFG didn't improve the very low polygon character models, it's the main reason people said HL2 looked better & i would have thought Id would have noticed that, but i guess not.
you mean, you can use mods to make all the text Russian?!? ;)
(but srsly which mods tho)
Absolute HD mod, it's from like 2014 though & some of the mods it uses have updated versions. im pretty sure there is better higher poly models now.
Yep... my thoughts too.
On PC nowadays it should be 8k 144fps surely.
The sound effects for the handgun and shotgun are so delicious. I want those sounds brought over to Eternal.
That first image just looks wrong to me. I bought Doom 3 around its release for my crappy PC, and it really never got that bright and always had that dark hazy look on everything. Seeing the lights getting that bright just looks so off to me.A few shots I grabbed last night:
The visuals have aged tremendously well.
Even though I still don't really like the gameplay of Doom 3 much, I truly appreciated the horror aesthetic and build up it had going on in the first couple of hours. Shame it gets really repetitive at the end.
Indeed.
I wonder how fast it could be with modern forward tiled renderer.
Just for giggles a mesh shader implementation of shadow volumes could be very interesting. (Generation and culling meshlets to only lighted tiles etc.)
Also dynamic GI should be possible.. (specular&diffuse)
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Oh, the game is still plenty dark:
Still probably the literally darkest game I've ever played.
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Doom 2016 is great, but I do think Doom 3 really nailed the frightening aspect of the monster designs better. Especially for the time.
With those Mancubus and Lost Soul designs I gotta hard disagree. Doom Eternal is just the peak redesigns when it comes to the classic monster designs.
doom 3 still looking great. wow, i'd say better than a lot of games i still see released to this day!
i loved the horror aspect of this one.
i loved the horror aspect of this one.
The lost soul was fantastic imo
In general the new designs are rather goofy
Doom 64 redesigns are best. I think they worked extra well with the new sounds (those same sounds felt a little out of place in the PSX version with the original sprites).
I'm a little confused as to what those are supposed to be. I flipped the option back and forth in options and I didn't see any difference.
The Resurrection of Evil ones were good. Can really say the same for the Doom 3 ones. They had pretty creepy sound effect at least.
When on, objects you're shining your flashlight on cast shadows. The thing is, since the light's attached to you now instead of held in your hand like the original version, those shadows are often directly behind the object you're looking at, so they're hard to notice.
