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Does releasing Apex Legends so close to Anthem's release date hurt it's sales?
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I don't think they'll have that much of an influence on eachother..1 is a PvP only game, the other is PvE only.
Agreed. That was not a great first impression and the section of game they chose to showcase isn't going to win them any new fans. Beyond that, I don't think there's as much overlap between fans. BR is its own monster.
No, they're completely different games.
The terrible Anthem demo is what is likely to hurt its sales.
The terrible Anthem demo is what is likely to hurt its sales.
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I feel the same as you. Yes, Anthem is a totally different type of game, but now I will be spending more time playing Apex so I can wait for Anthem to drop in price.
I would say minimal but not a negligible impact. Demo and EA's reputation overall has more of an impact on Anthem sales, on the downside imo.
I disagree with people saying they're both different games and won't effect each other. They're both large-scale multiplayer GaaS shooters. Yes, Apex is BR and Anthem is a PvE loot game, but people have limited time and if Alex is the hot game during Anthem's release window and it's free then it will make things difficult for Anthem.
Nah, I don't see it. Anthem isn't going to bring in the PvP crowd. It's going to bring the MMO and co-op crowd. There might be some overlap (like me, for instance), but I'll be playing both.
We don't know how the mass audience feels about either game yet so it's impossible to say right now.
I don't think it does if you're strictly comparing game to game, but I think in the grand scheme of things:
1) Hearing about cool new free to play game that people are liking
doesn't help
2) Hearing about how bad Anthem demo is that for a game that isn't free and that most people aren't liking
So while I don't think one really cancels out the other, the fact is, there are good games out there right now and there's Anthem, which has to earn its way into people's homes.
1) Hearing about cool new free to play game that people are liking
doesn't help
2) Hearing about how bad Anthem demo is that for a game that isn't free and that most people aren't liking
So while I don't think one really cancels out the other, the fact is, there are good games out there right now and there's Anthem, which has to earn its way into people's homes.
Yes, people don't realize there's a huge overlap between these games' populations. One being PvE and the other PvP is a factor, but games nowadays are fighting for relevance and player engagement schemes. Battle passes, seasonal events, grinds as opposed to real money payments... the strategy for games like PUBG, Fortnite, Rocket League, League Of Legends, Call Of Duty: Black Ops 4, Destiny, Anthem and now Apex Legends is to keep the players engaged, have them log in every day or almost every day, make them play constantly so that they don't have to open their wallets to buy the unlocks - make them feel their time is worth a lot in the games. This is important because it's very difficult for a player to be involved with more than 1 or 2 such games. I consider myself a very frequent gamer and already as is I can barely keep up with two such service-based games like Rocket League and Black Ops 4, barely even making the dailies in the former just because I lose out on too much otherwise.
Apex Legends went for the undercut on both Anthem and The Division 2. Sure, different games, but those who enjoy shooters in general will give this one a shot for free, and if they're addicted, it inevitably hurts those other games. It's a gamble, of course, because it could go the opposite way: people try out Apex Legends, enjoy it, but then they get caught up with Anthem or something and just "forget" Apex Legends, never really going back as newer and hotter games will lure their attention away. But there's absolutely no doubt that a major triple-A multiplayer FPS dropping mere days before another triple-A multiplayer (co-op) shooter arrives is going to have consequences. I don't think EA was smart with the dates at all, but if Apex Legends wasn't ready before, the more they wait the less space there can be in the BR scene. Oh, and it's been discussed to death already, but EA is also undermining their own Battlefield BR, also supposedly dropping in a couple weeks now for a game that already sold relatively poorly and to somewhat mixed reactions.
I think EA has a chance at having a hit with Apex Legends, but if that happens, it'll inevitably damage their other shooters coming out soon, and the same goes for The Division 2. Just look at games like Fortnite or PUBG: sure, they're 100 player PvP Battle Royale games, but they attracted dozens of millions of players who are now playing those games instead of playing other games in their free time. The player pool is not an infinite entity, and there's a large overlap between those who play online for the co-op and those who prefer PvP. Maybe Anthem will launch well, but I'm positive that without Apex Legends launching on its ass it would have sold better.
Apex Legends went for the undercut on both Anthem and The Division 2. Sure, different games, but those who enjoy shooters in general will give this one a shot for free, and if they're addicted, it inevitably hurts those other games. It's a gamble, of course, because it could go the opposite way: people try out Apex Legends, enjoy it, but then they get caught up with Anthem or something and just "forget" Apex Legends, never really going back as newer and hotter games will lure their attention away. But there's absolutely no doubt that a major triple-A multiplayer FPS dropping mere days before another triple-A multiplayer (co-op) shooter arrives is going to have consequences. I don't think EA was smart with the dates at all, but if Apex Legends wasn't ready before, the more they wait the less space there can be in the BR scene. Oh, and it's been discussed to death already, but EA is also undermining their own Battlefield BR, also supposedly dropping in a couple weeks now for a game that already sold relatively poorly and to somewhat mixed reactions.
I think EA has a chance at having a hit with Apex Legends, but if that happens, it'll inevitably damage their other shooters coming out soon, and the same goes for The Division 2. Just look at games like Fortnite or PUBG: sure, they're 100 player PvP Battle Royale games, but they attracted dozens of millions of players who are now playing those games instead of playing other games in their free time. The player pool is not an infinite entity, and there's a large overlap between those who play online for the co-op and those who prefer PvP. Maybe Anthem will launch well, but I'm positive that without Apex Legends launching on its ass it would have sold better.
I think it will. If they weren't both EA games being promoted/sold through Origin, I could see the argument that they are different enough, but they are both multiplayer online shooters competing for peoples time and eyeballs in a very crowded February, and on one marketplace on PC. I think if Anthem would have released first, we would be asking the opposite question.
After that initial demo, the negative press, and now a new, free game with really positive buzz dropping?
I could definitely see a world where Anthem is affected by Apex Legends.
I could definitely see a world where Anthem is affected by Apex Legends.
Anthem hurt Anthem.
Apex could also be a factor if Anthem ends up struggling but it won't be the main one.
Apex could also be a factor if Anthem ends up struggling but it won't be the main one.
They're very different games. If anything it's a good strategy to get people to check out both. At least on PC, you'll be going to Origin and seeing promotion for both of them, then the $1 Origin Access deal, and that will probably hook you for a month.
I kinda feel like EA knew what they were doing with this.
I kinda feel like EA knew what they were doing with this.
On console I dont think it matters. On PC its good, a bunch of people just downloaded the origin client
In the first 15 minutes, I had 2 hard crashes and the very first quest was bugged in freeplay. I am not a masochist and will see that as a tell tale sign.
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They target completely different audiences, so I don't think so. If anything, it will hurt Battlefield V since their BR mode has yet to release. What it is doing though, is giving me just a shred of faith in the Star Wars game that Respawn is working on.
No. Anthem is a PvE game and Apex Legends is a BR game i couldnt give two shits about. I actually downloaded it. played one round. died on my very first firefight after collecting shit for ten minutes and deleted the game. it's like every BR game. I find it hilarious that gamers are all of a sudden ok with having to reload an entire game after dying once. i still remember how long loading times were mentioned as a negative for Battlefield games and how lack of engagement every few seconds was considered too slow.
Still, more power to people who enjoy this mode. It's just not for me. And i doubt people who find Anthem and Destiny enjoyable give two shits about BR.
Still, more power to people who enjoy this mode. It's just not for me. And i doubt people who find Anthem and Destiny enjoyable give two shits about BR.