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Does playing PS1 Chrono Trigger on PS2 with fast load times fix the load time issue?
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More importantly, adding loading to the start and end of battles ruins the entire aspect of how battles take place within the dungeon maps.
I'm currently playing through the Chrono Trigger+ hack. My girlfriend is playing through the original on Steam. The steam version is fine but man, the graphics are all blown up and hideous, a lot of the effects look wrong or bad (think Saturn Dracula X)... SNES9x with a CRT filter looks much much better. Any version will do, really just not mobile or PS1.
Yup, it's terrible.
FF6 > SNES
CT > DS (or SNES)
Pretty sure those are in the DS version as well. Not sure about Steam though.
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I'm a strong advocate for the DS version, it's pretty much perfect plus you get the added bonus of touch screen UI
They're in the DS version as best as I can remember. I'd be shocked if they were missing from the Steam one. I'd also say the Wii version is easy to recommend since it's just a well emulated SNES version....but the store is shut down.
DS has all the cutscenes
Last I heard Steam had most of the cutscenes, one or two were oddly missing. But in one of the few good things about the steam port the ones they have look to be taken from the original raws and are far superior to the DS/PSX versions with modern compression.
The only good thing the DS version really has over the SNES version is that the "One of you is close to someone who needs help... Find this person... fast." line has been changed. Otherwise I prefer the SNES version translation wise, and the SNES version is the one I play when I go through the game again.
Only issue is that the SNES version is expensive now, so DS makes the most sense sadly
It's a PS1 port so there is only so much that can be done on PS2. It was just a memory issue, I suppose.
PS TV is the same as playing it on Vita. I played a good bit of Chrono Trigger on my Vita. Battles take around 5 seconds to enter. And also there's a delay whenever you try and access your inventory. The port was rushed and poorly done,
The way the PS1 ports of FF6 and CT were programmed is the reason why the games run like shit.
Basically, what Square did was stick the SNES roms on the CD and then use it as a base for the PS1 to access (that's a really simplified version of what they did). The issue is that the PS1 doesn't have enough RAM to load everything, hence the lag in opening things like the menu.
The reason why devices like the PS2, PS3, PSP or Vita still suffer from the lag is that when you run a PS1 game on those systems, the game is being ran to the specs of the PS1, either through hardware BC (PS2) or an emulator (PS3, PSP and Vita).
Speaking as someone whose favorite game of all time is Chrono Trigger, please, please, please don't play Chrono Trigger on PS1. It's the worst version by a landslide and casts a huge shadow over so much of what makes CT a) so deeply special and b) one of the greatest games of all time, particularly the soundtrack.
If, for whatever reason, you don't have access to the game on its other platforms (SNES, DS, Steam, mobile) at the moment, just wait to play it until you do. The PS1 version is that bad. Actually, it's worse.
The DS and Steam versions are the best, followed by SNES. Any of those versions will serve you well.
If, for whatever reason, you don't have access to the game on its other platforms (SNES, DS, Steam, mobile) at the moment, just wait to play it until you do. The PS1 version is that bad. Actually, it's worse.
The DS and Steam versions are the best, followed by SNES. Any of those versions will serve you well.
Maybe ffiv, but I'm pretty sure all other games are too big for the psx's RAM.
I have access to SNES on CRT, Analogue NT, Steam, and Nvidia Shield Snex9x emulation.
For convenience and quality of life, I'm currently playing FFVI (Ted Woolsey translation) on the Shield. Why? The emulation looks great on a 55" OLED and I can fast forward, I can backup my saves to the cloud and I can activate game genie cheats. I love being able to disable overworld battles when I want to and enabling infinite hp/mp for grinding until the boss. It's the reason why this playthrough is by far the furthest I've been.
It's the same reason why I loved and completed the FFVII remaster on the ps4. If you're not a filthy cheater like me then I'd still consider emulation or checking out the steam version for achievement hunting.
For convenience and quality of life, I'm currently playing FFVI (Ted Woolsey translation) on the Shield. Why? The emulation looks great on a 55" OLED and I can fast forward, I can backup my saves to the cloud and I can activate game genie cheats. I love being able to disable overworld battles when I want to and enabling infinite hp/mp for grinding until the boss. It's the reason why this playthrough is by far the furthest I've been.
It's the same reason why I loved and completed the FFVII remaster on the ps4. If you're not a filthy cheater like me then I'd still consider emulation or checking out the steam version for achievement hunting.
Yup. CT is 4MB, FFVI is 3MB, PSX RAM is 2MB.
I prefer the SNES translation largely to the DS one (the DS one is perfectly servicable though), so I'd dispute that it's the best by a mile. It's certainly the best option if you can't get your hands on the snes version though
Correct, a lot of people don't seem to realize the PS1 had 2MB of actual ram, and then 1MB of video ram.
From a content perspective, maybe. The retranslation needed another couple passes (even the translator himself admited to such in an interview, he was on a tight deadline) and the new content is mostly pointless filler. As such the only thing of 'value' lost playing the original SNES version is the animated cutscenes.
Even then, that makes the steam and DS versions about equal, and still not necessarily 'must plays'.
I like being able to see which endings you've gotten...that's about it. I prefer the SNES version too.
I personnaly think the psp remakes is the way to go for FF1 and 2
I still prefer the PS1 versions of I and II. Every version after the PS1 version is based on the PS1 verson's Easy Mode. That removes any challenge from Final Fantasy I.
Interview in question with Square's translator at the time...
To be clear, I'm not hating on Slattery's translation. I played through the DS version when it came out, and it was totally fine... but it's pretty safe to say even he wasn't completely satisfied with what was produced and that it was under a stricter set of deadlines than some of his other works. In that context, it's really not hard to see why a lot of people still preferred Woosley's original translation beyond simply nostalgia.
(for the record, people should totally read the whole interview, some great stuff from the GBA/DS era retranslations of FF and CT games)
(edit) Another choice quote from the article.
To be clear, I'm not hating on Slattery's translation. I played through the DS version when it came out, and it was totally fine... but it's pretty safe to say even he wasn't completely satisfied with what was produced and that it was under a stricter set of deadlines than some of his other works. In that context, it's really not hard to see why a lot of people still preferred Woosley's original translation beyond simply nostalgia.
(for the record, people should totally read the whole interview, some great stuff from the GBA/DS era retranslations of FF and CT games)
(edit) Another choice quote from the article.
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It's really up to you. The PSP version of FF1 is prettier, but it lacks the option to play on Normal difficulty.
One "minor" issue with the DS version is it has a save ruining bug near the final battle.
....let's just say, "it was in the Japanese release, so it's a feature." I wish I could remember the specifics but probably better I don't since it doesn't seem like average players have hit it anyways.
....let's just say, "it was in the Japanese release, so it's a feature." I wish I could remember the specifics but probably better I don't since it doesn't seem like average players have hit it anyways.
Nah, ps1 version of Chrono Trigger is ass, no matter which platform you play it on, and should be avoided unless for some reason its the only version you could possibly access (but seriously, go play the SNES version on one of many platforms its playable, the DS version, or even get the mobile version, all better).
I actually hugely appreciate this change, because it always bugged me that only Frog spoke like that in 600 AD, and only while he was a frog.