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Does Deus Ex have a chance to come back with the cyberpunk hype?
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That's a way to see it, but I saw in my head a marketing push that pulls on the "storied" past of the venerable DE franchise to bring in new fans hot off 2077 and hungry for more cyberpunk.
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I don't think Avengers killed it. Just going to be a wait until we get the next one since each gen we've gotten 1 so far and Eidis Montreal have two teams, so I don't see why not.
They seemed to have accidentally maneuvered the series into a dead end somehow, so it seems unlikely.
On a related note, I always thought that the whole prequel angle for the rebooted series was kind of a strange misstep from the very beginning. I mean, you have a series fundamentally driven by conspiracies that the player gradually unravels and then you choose to present a story where the player already knows where it is going to lead – always seemed a bit pointless to me (though Human Revolution still turned out to be quite a good game in the end).
Still, they probably should have retconned Invisible War out of existence instead and continued the story as a sequel to the original Deus Ex.
On a related note, I always thought that the whole prequel angle for the rebooted series was kind of a strange misstep from the very beginning. I mean, you have a series fundamentally driven by conspiracies that the player gradually unravels and then you choose to present a story where the player already knows where it is going to lead – always seemed a bit pointless to me (though Human Revolution still turned out to be quite a good game in the end).
Still, they probably should have retconned Invisible War out of existence instead and continued the story as a sequel to the original Deus Ex.
It's a nice idea but I think Blade Runner 2049 bombing was a reality check for cyberpunk. 2077 would have to sell in incredible numbers for SE to bother with Deus Ex. It's really sad what happened there but it's 100% SE's fault, Mankind Divided should not have taken 5 years to make. They missed their moment and what we got didn't feel complete anyway.
True and that's before the tomb raider reboot and the avengers collab
I think it will come back, though it'll probably be so far in the future that however 2077 does will be irrelevant. A release late next gen, or early next next-gen could be a possibility IMO.
It's still pretty crazy though how they had managed to botch the franchise so quickly after Human Revolution. Such a shame.
It's still pretty crazy though how they had managed to botch the franchise so quickly after Human Revolution. Such a shame.
I dont think Cyberpunk has much in common with Deus Ex ideology. Deus Ex is player complete freedom and reactivity to anything you do. Whatever goes through your head - you can do it. Im talking about Deus Ex 1 here.
CD Red doesnt make games like that.
Open world on the level of GTA with a option of third or first person view. Make it more RPG like and allow for multiple class type with story structure similar to the Witcher 3
There is no way they're abandoning the series. The question is if the next game will actually conclude the Jensen arc or will be something irrelevant.
Crazy talk. Invisible War shat the bed orders of magnitude more than Mankind Divided did and the franchise came back, so I think it is possible.
I hope so. I really do. Don't own a PC so I've never played the first (I'll get round to it, honest) but HR was superb and, despite MD's problems with it's pre-order incentives, it's microtransactions and its ending, it was still a really, really good game in my eyes.
You're basically describing Cyberpunk 2077 (except for the third person part). I think that Deus Ex, if resurrected, should put a bit different spin on things.
If you're an AAA studio executive, why would you invest $50m into a series that is 1) single-player, 2) doesn't have a great revenue tail, and 3) just underperformed on its last game when you could instead put that money into a Marvel cash cow game as a service that might make you hundreds of millions and be a consistent stream of long-term revenue?
If I were Square Enix I'd take the Private Division approach and greenlight some lower-budget sequels to franchises like Deus Ex and Thief and that ridiculous library of JRPG IP that's just sitting there doing nothing, but shareholders and executives don't care about hitting singles or doubles - they want nothing but home runs.
If I were Square Enix I'd take the Private Division approach and greenlight some lower-budget sequels to franchises like Deus Ex and Thief and that ridiculous library of JRPG IP that's just sitting there doing nothing, but shareholders and executives don't care about hitting singles or doubles - they want nothing but home runs.
If it does I hope they don't bring Jensen as the main.
One of my least favorite characters of all time.
One of my least favorite characters of all time.
The MTX in Mankind Divided along with the abrupt ending makes me question Square Enix's desire to make a proper single player game the way CDPR is with Cyberpunk.
I do want a new Deus Ex.. and man oh man... a Deus Ex on the scale of Cyberpunk.... dare I say I'd want that more than Cyberpunk!! But, is the team behind Deus Ex capable of making something that competes on the same level, thats the real question.
Deus Ex has a shot... but it needs to be more. Having a living breathing city would be the sweet spot for it, one where you can still do a mission or two in a faraway place, the way we know it.. but I think its stands a real chance if they capture Cyberpunk "aliveness" of the city. Prague just didn't do it for me. Loved the old meets new asthetic, but Cyberpunk's entire immersion comes from a city that feels real and alive.
Deus Ex has a shot... but it needs to be more. Having a living breathing city would be the sweet spot for it, one where you can still do a mission or two in a faraway place, the way we know it.. but I think its stands a real chance if they capture Cyberpunk "aliveness" of the city. Prague just didn't do it for me. Loved the old meets new asthetic, but Cyberpunk's entire immersion comes from a city that feels real and alive.