The Dualsense specifically improves on the stick click function and it seems like that should be more reliable.
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Does anyone actually like the L3/R3 analog clicks? Who do we have to "thank" for this?
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Modern games very very rarely ask you to hold down L3 to run. It's almost always just a click to initiate it. Zombi is one of the few I can remember requiring it to be held down. I can't think of any other examples and it's possible that OP just thinks that they need to hold it down?
Gears is used as an example in OP but you run with A in that game.
Gears is used as an example in OP but you run with A in that game.
I don't like to use them but they are used for minor things anyway. To run, I don't remember any game that requires you to keep holding them, its just one click then you push the stick in any direction.
I guess being clickable is one reason for them to get defective over time.
I guess being clickable is one reason for them to get defective over time.
I hate them with a passion. They make some games incredibly hard to play for me because of my disability. Would rather have two more buttons.
I use them but utterly dislike them, they should just all have an extra set of buttons, back buttons or soemthing.
Surely it contributes to weaker analogue sticks having them violently jabbed?
Surely it contributes to weaker analogue sticks having them violently jabbed?
I was the same for Ape Escape and thought I needed a new controller with more buttons. I really had no idea you could press them down like that and thought doing so might break the sticks, it isn't really intuitive at all but I guess you get used to it.
As long as you don't have to hold down the things, I don't care, though I'd personally shy away from L3 ever being a usable thing while the player was moving were I designing a game. If a control scheme is clever, it can tie R3 in particular into things the player is commonly using the right stick for anyway, such as a zoom level, making it feel more natural than anything else available.
I was going to mention this. The difference is dramatic if you hold the old and new models back to back.
I was going to mention this. The difference is dramatic if you hold the old and new models back to back.
If it fully solves the problem I will not have to change a controller every 6-12 months like I had to with the DS4.
Never had an issue with them. I cant remember the last game I played where you actively ever had to hold them down.
This is one of those things I see people complain about a lot and I never ever could comprehend why it's a problem to people. Even for sprinting, never ever had a problem with it whatsoever. In fact, I remapped jump to l3 instead of double tap dodge in souls games in ones it's possible, cuz I legit prefer that over double tap that I always mess up
I hate having to used them on any game, the only time it ever feel "right" to use was GoW when killing Poseidon because it is that awkward to press everytime but that time it had a purpose. I always think I'm is going to eventually brake my stick, it actually happened back on ps1 on one of my controllers.
I don't really mind if it's for minor use and not during action.
The worst is to click a stick to run. Why do I have to click an ANALOG STICK to run?
That's what the stick is for!
The worst is to click a stick to run. Why do I have to click an ANALOG STICK to run?
That's what the stick is for!
I don't mind having to click R3 for a command / action that isn't required all the time.
But I loathe having to click in the left stick to run. It's especially annoying for games like Remake 2 and 3 which are currently hampered by my left DS4 stick not always registering the up /forward tilt of the stick. I don't know if that's what people would refer to as drift but it sure makes the clicking of L3 to run much more of an annoyance.
But I loathe having to click in the left stick to run. It's especially annoying for games like Remake 2 and 3 which are currently hampered by my left DS4 stick not always registering the up /forward tilt of the stick. I don't know if that's what people would refer to as drift but it sure makes the clicking of L3 to run much more of an annoyance.
No issue unless they want fast use during moments of gameplay.
Or if a dev thinks the right stick is a mouse with click as R3.
Toggle Crouch while moving, Zoom, all fine uses of it. hold to sprint or crouch sucks
Or if a dev thinks the right stick is a mouse with click as R3.
Toggle Crouch while moving, Zoom, all fine uses of it. hold to sprint or crouch sucks
No issues with them as long as I don't have to press and hold for for anything. Looking at you Warframe alt fire. Thank goodness for remapping.
I've never really understood the pain of just clicking though.
I've never really understood the pain of just clicking though.
They're convenient in a sense, bit have always felt awkward to me. Back paddles would be awesome. Also, replace the right stick with a trackpad. Basically, look to the Steam Controller for some inspiration. That thing rocks (mostly).
You realize that the back paddles would be for your other fingers, right? Not the index fingers.
You realize that the back paddles would be for your other fingers, right? Not the index fingers.
I mostly just hate sprinting being tied to L3. It just doesn't feel good. Pretty much any other use of L3 & R3 is fine.
I don't know when I've last played a game that required me to hold either L3/R3 by default, but I'm pretty sure it was in the earlier stages of the PS360 generation. This was criminally uncomfortable and deserve to stay in the past, but I've never had any trouble just clicking on them, whatever the direction they're in.
As a toggle or a rare action button (ie jump in Dark Souls 2), it works perfectly fine. It may be a greater accessibility hurdle than more traditional buttons though, I don't know about that.
As a toggle or a rare action button (ie jump in Dark Souls 2), it works perfectly fine. It may be a greater accessibility hurdle than more traditional buttons though, I don't know about that.
Dreamcast didn't have analogue click.
EDIT: I think the first controller to have it was the DualShock, as the Dual Analog controller released a few months before did not have L3 or R3.
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Having sprint (click once) on L3 and melee on R3 has worked really well in Destiny. Always prefer sprint on the left stick now and there's something satisfying about pushing a part of my right hand down and seeing my characters right hand thrust out to melee.
If you're using them in a scheme that requires you click them down and manoeuvre them while held down - no thanks.
If you're using them in a scheme that requires you click them down and manoeuvre them while held down - no thanks.
Huh, I could have sworn I have memories of clicking to centre the camera in Jet Set Radio.
I don't really like using L3 to run. I always enjoy it when I play a game and the default control scheme maps run to a different button -- glorious!
I was just thinking about how stupidly inconvenient it is to do a slide in SW Squadrons by holding down the R3 while simultaneously using it to control the direction of the flight / slide. It borderline unusable.
These clicks are fine for some rarely needed interaction like going into photo mode and such but any game which is trying to use them for some gameplay mechanic which is needed to work in conjunction with actually moving the sticks is doing it wrong.
These clicks are fine for some rarely needed interaction like going into photo mode and such but any game which is trying to use them for some gameplay mechanic which is needed to work in conjunction with actually moving the sticks is doing it wrong.