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Doctor Who Series 12 |OT| Spyfall Is Where We Start
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DVR spins count more or less as much as the live ratings nowadays.
I also didn't see that. I guess I'm glad I don't follow their posts. But you said as soon as, meaning they didn't spoil it beforehand?
Sadly, this week is where I get off for the season. My YouTube TV subscription just expired and I don't feel like paying for it, so I won't be able to keep up with the season unless I buy it on Amazon or whatever. :|
The videos started popping up right after the episode aired in the US. So they at least waited until the US air time to start posting about it.
The main Doctor Who account has a 24 hour embargo for major spoilers. Did it with this and the Master reveal.
All they did was put out a tweet. But, we know Chibnall said he wouldn't be back "this series", but they filmed the Christmas episode, which isn't part of this series, in the same production run as these episodes. So there's one filmed episode in the can that is technically part of the next series, and Barrowman totally could've filmed some bits for that at the same time as filming for this week's episode.
Christmas episode speculation/enemy spoilers--
'This series' is exactly the same thing Chibnall said about Daleks... but they did very public filming in Cardiff this year with both the new 'recon' style scrap metal Dalek and the RTD-era Time War ones. In fact, Chibnall came out and said that immediately after long-lens photos of the filming showed up in the press, I guess to control expectation. So, presumably, that's the Christmas 2020 Episode, which they've already filmed but isn't technically part of 'this series'. So maybe that'll be where Jack crops back up.
Alternatively, I can totally see him not showing up again until next year proper now. They managed to film his return and keep it a secret by filming only on one enclosed indoor set. For him to show up in a story proper, there probably needs to be both indoor and outdoor filming, and so it's harder to keep the secret. So... film him on an enclosed set for a glorified cameo for his return, have him tease deeper involvement, and then the following year film with him in public for a more full 'return'. It makes perfect sense.
It's sorta like - Jack would've made a great surprise return for Series 3, and they totally could've filmed Utopia in secret as almost all of it is indoors and then the one major outdoor scene could've been discretely filmed by the Torchwood team as part of that show (which, obviously, is no longer an option). But then he has to do loads of on-location outdoor scenes in the following two episodes, so they had to announce it ahead of time. See also stuff like the return of River being announced the very day before she stepped out on set to film the outdoor bits of the series 5 angels episodes... so to truly hide a character, you have to limit their utility.
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The official Facebook page for Doctor Who has this up:
So like there is some money behind it
Edit: it is a shirt with Jack on it
Finally a good episode. I think I would like it more if I watched it blind, but Doctor Who kinda sucks right now. I can't just waste my time watching the bad episodes.
I guess we are dealing with a multiverse this season, right? No way our Doctor would be so callous with life like this one.
I guess we are dealing with a multiverse this season, right? No way our Doctor would be so callous with life like this one.
Same here. Especially when they scanned them and showed they were human even though we knew more was going on.
Can't belive I waited to tonight to watch this and somehow didn't get spoiled. I heard something that didn't stick, just that something big was up.
And and lord did I get excited when I heard Barrowman's voice!
I liked her a lot, myself. Loved the clash in arrogance between the two.
Yeah, I deliberately used a qualifier before unlikable to qualify the meaning of the word and then wrote a whole extra post clarifying what I meant. It's starting to feel like you're all being deliberately obtuse now. This is an internet forum, I'd recommend not going OTT over-analysing someone's choice of vocabulary when they're just tapping out thoughts on the bus to work.
I replied as I read, I hadn't read any later responses and I'm not critical of your view, just expressing my own reaction.
Sorry if I expressed myself poorly. I just meant I disliked the way the Doctor Who social media accounts make impossible to miss big spoilery pictures about the reveals not even a day after an episode airs.
The second part of my post was communicating my impression that the writers are trying to imitate what Moffat did on the show.
Just caught up, i'm definitely interested in where this series is going. That was a hell of a good episode.
I suspect whatever is up with Ruth-Doctor, she grew up on Gallifrey and was a kid at some point and is/is connected to whatever the Timeless Child is. Based solely on the brief snippet of flashback we get to the Remnants episode when The Master mentioned The Timeless child a few episodes ago.
I suspect whatever is up with Ruth-Doctor, she grew up on Gallifrey and was a kid at some point and is/is connected to whatever the Timeless Child is. Based solely on the brief snippet of flashback we get to the Remnants episode when The Master mentioned The Timeless child a few episodes ago.
Sure but at the very least it means they're retconning what we've already seen of the Doctor as a child. Like I specifically mean that Martin's iteration is more directly connected to that stuff than Whittaker's iteration is.
I think she's earlier than the other Doctors we've seen unless at some point The Doctor regenerated into a kid.
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Aside for the big surprises, the latest episode was just plain well-written. Perhaps the first great episode of this incarnation.
Anyone else been watching the season 26 BD set?
The JNT piece on the bonus disc is excellent but very sad. BBC did not treat him well from the 80s on.
Going to watch the extended Ghostlight workprint tomorrow.
The JNT piece on the bonus disc is excellent but very sad. BBC did not treat him well from the 80s on.
Going to watch the extended Ghostlight workprint tomorrow.
I just enjoy the subtext of "you hated the Doctor being a woman? We got two now!". And the new performance is very much in line with the old 'passive aggressive is my game, The Doctor is my name' type doctor.
Also that 'a bit cheesy' comment on Barrowman. :D
So, that lone Cyberman is going to have to be Bill, right? I do hope the writing for this episode is a sign of better things to come. Not that I had an issue with Tesla vs Edison (the selected actors were nice), but that whole 'and now for a history lesson' type plotting isn't really that exciting to me.
Also that 'a bit cheesy' comment on Barrowman. :D
So, that lone Cyberman is going to have to be Bill, right? I do hope the writing for this episode is a sign of better things to come. Not that I had an issue with Tesla vs Edison (the selected actors were nice), but that whole 'and now for a history lesson' type plotting isn't really that exciting to me.
Yeah Chinball fucked up spectacularly last season and probably said fuck it, I'll ape RTD till the end of my run people at least will like that approach. I mean its working for me, but god does it feel creatively bankrupt, down to the Doctor reveal feeling like an abridged version of the Jacobi Master.
Bill is exploring the universe with Heather as a puddle isn't she? I think Cyberman Brigadier is still alive.
I'm expecting a type of 'good man' drama on the whole "lone" part. Maybe I'm still stuck in Moffat-mode.
Her soul is, I believe, but the way I recall it is that her body effectively remained an OG (solo) Cybermen. It's been too long for me to recall correctly though, and I'm not a re-watcher just for details.
In this episode:
John Cena is The Doctor's little brother and Adric is revealed to be alive :O
John Cena is The Doctor's little brother and Adric is revealed to be alive :O
That started slow but I really enjoyed it by the end. The environmental message was a lot better integrated into the story than in Orphan 55, but I'm sure there will be plenty who will complain preachy politics have gotten into their sci-fi again.
Actually really liked that one. Think the final act maybe felt a bit rushed, but around half way through I started fearing another Power of Three, and it wasn't nearly that bad.
Whilst the companions had a bit more to do this time around, Graham in particular, I feel like every episode this season has had them overshadowed by a much stronger episodic supporting cast.
And was that a Slitheen claw in the next time trailer lol
Whilst the companions had a bit more to do this time around, Graham in particular, I feel like every episode this season has had them overshadowed by a much stronger episodic supporting cast.
And was that a Slitheen claw in the next time trailer lol
Don't forget the uproar that will happen because some people can't stand seeing two men kiss.
I can already see the D*ly M*il headlines
It wasn't quite as bad as Orphan 55 but there were some really naff moments in that like Graham magically gaining the power to sort out an IV drip because dialogue acknowledged that... he couldn't really do it?
And a shot of a woman exploding right in front of the Doctor cutting to a shot of the Doctor not physically reacting to someone exploding right in front of her at all.
Just lots of off-feeling bits. I didn't rate it at all tbh.
And a shot of a woman exploding right in front of the Doctor cutting to a shot of the Doctor not physically reacting to someone exploding right in front of her at all.
Just lots of off-feeling bits. I didn't rate it at all tbh.
Doesn't look it. The monster appears to be called the Chagaskas
From the synopsis:
Subtler than Orphan 55 but felt underplotted - that didn't have much of a threat to it in the end.