I started watched the last season again. I remember not hating it, but not loving it, just happy Steven Moffat wasn't being brilliant and terrible on alternate days anymore.
I gotta disagree with this, I had the opposite reaction. Watching Deep Breath for the first time I was more sold on Capaldi's Doctor than any of the others with the premiere. The voice, how he felt like the Doctor finally unmasked without any fake youthful faces, how the Doctor was finally mysterious again. I didn't need him to be immediately endearing to be sold. Really allows for Capaldi to have the character arc in his first series that Smith didn't.My wife and I are onto the Capaldi era and watched Deep Breath last night. It was a little better than I remember but I still think this episode is just way way too long, and doesn't have nearly enough story to support its runtime. It's also probably the worst first impression of any modern Doctor, and I say that as someone who ranks Capaldi as his favorite of that group. Rose, The Christmas Invasion, The Eleventh Hour, and The Woman Who Fell to Earth all successfully sold their Doctors right out of the gate. Capaldi doesn't really find his best footing (more so because of the direction of the character than his performance) until maybe Listen, but even that aside this episode does not do a good job at all of really endearing you to the Twelfth Doctor. And while I get why Moffat wanted to address that it was ok that this guy was going to be a different Doctor than Smith, the way it comes off via Vastra just feels almost condescending to the viewer.
To that point, my wife -- who only started watching the show last year -- loved Eccleston's Doctor, was very upset that he was leaving the show and did not like Tennant coming in...until the end of The Christmas Invasion when he started doing things lol. Then she got (obsessively) attached to Tennant, did not want a new Doctor coming in, did not like Smith's first post-regeneration scene...then we watched The Eleventh Hour and she was sold. Finishing Deep Breath, she is not sold on Capaldi, and I think that's imo Moffat's biggest failing during his eight years as showrunner: it took far too long to really get audiences onboard with Capaldi's Doctor, which is a huge shame because Capaldi's Doctor I think ended up being both the best performance we've had of the Doctor and also the most interesting characterization of the Doctor.
At this point we have to accept him as part of Moffat's posse. Which is absurd because the guy was new and talented enough to run the show himself. He absolutely could've come over but it's a total production reboot.
I gotta disagree with this, I had the opposite reaction. Watching Deep Breath for the first time I was more sold on Capaldi's Doctor than any of the others with the premiere. The voice, how he felt like the Doctor finally unmasked without any fake youthful faces, how the Doctor was finally mysterious again. I didn't need him to be immediately endearing to be sold. Really allows for Capaldi to have the character arc in his first series that Smith didn't.
I gotta disagree with this, I had the opposite reaction. Watching Deep Breath for the first time I was more sold on Capaldi's Doctor than any of the others with the premiere. The voice, how he felt like the Doctor finally unmasked without any fake youthful faces, how the Doctor was finally mysterious again. I didn't need him to be immediately endearing to be sold. Really allows for Capaldi to have the character arc in his first series that Smith didn't.
We know that he was sounded out about series 11, but he was too busy.It's heartbreaking. One of the best new writers Who has had in ages and Chibnall won't use him.
We know that he was sounded out about series 11, but he was too busy.
Ha, I feel like this rumor comes around about every other season now...
I'm sure that in one of the interviews (for the Season 23 blu ray release), Tennant ruled out coming back so soon anyway?
Ah, that last bit I hadn't heard before, but the quoted part I believe is almost word for word what he'd said in the End of Time interview segment... unless that is his rehearsed answer for every time he's asked about it!It does come about regularly, but there was a very specific rumour about Tennant with timing and everything attached in the last month or two. It was printed by the Mirror, who have a good Who rumour track record, and when in the wake of it Tennant was asked if he'd come back (just three weeks ago), he said...
"Who knows? People ask me this… like it's my decision when I'll just stroll back on set on Doctor Who and go, 'Right! Turn over! Here I am!' – it doesn't really work like that.
Jodie, Peter and Matt are all mates now. It would be wonderful to be on set with them. Chris … I don't know as well, but I'm a huge admirer of him and I've always enjoyed meeting him, so it'd be fun if we were all on set together. It's not for me to say. The more I speculate, the more I'll end up getting myself in trouble…"
So I think that shit is a lock sooner rather than later, basically. IIRC the rumour was that there'd be an episode either Christmas day or New Years Day this year, then in 2020 the holiday special would be a multi-Doc affair.
They said he had a 5-year plan, after all.
That always seemed likely- there wasn't anything to those Chaos In Cardiff rumours.
Hmm. What if THAT is the source of the Tennant rumor? He and Jodie were just together for that charity album after all.
I'm still salty we never got a Sherlock and Doctor Who crossover for Children in Need.
The one I've always wanted, especially now it's back on air (albeit on a different channel), is Red Dwarf. It has always made so much sense. alas.
Weren't those early series' of Dwarf the same special effects/miniatures team as 80s Who?
"A BBC One source said: "It's going to be huge. The scale is just epic. No one will be disappointed."looks like first ep on jan 1, second on Jan 4
"A BBC One source said: "It's going to be huge. The scale is just epic. No one will be disappointed."
I just can't be excited with the same boring companions being back all season.
"A BBC One source said: "It's going to be huge. The scale is just epic. No one will be disappointed."
I just can't be excited with the same boring companions being back all season.
I did grab a few of these spin offs cheaply (Airzone Solution, The Stranger ones) in the 90s.
looks like first ep on jan 1, second on Jan 4
I'll believe it when I can actually see the episodes. I've still only seen The Woman Who Fell To Earth and they've in no way made the rest of the season accessible to me anywhere I could watch it without paying an absurd amount of money.
Fingers crossed Chibnall gets his shit together though, Jodie deserves a good run.