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DOAX:VV sets a new low on Sexualization of women including minors (NSFW)
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Does KT use the 1000 year old dragon excuse to justify their characters, or they don't give a crap?
When I bought DOA 6, I was shocked to learn that Honoka is an adult and that she goes to College, even though her uniform looked straight out of high school
When I bought DOA 6, I was shocked to learn that Honoka is an adult and that she goes to College, even though her uniform looked straight out of high school
The whole cast is 18+ on paper, but Marie Rose is just clearly not an adult in any way or form no matter what they say. They also introduced the even-more-loli character Kanna, "cheekily" aged 1014 years...
I agree, the girls all look about the same age to me as they have those same ageless faces. I don't think a character looks younger just because she has a more petite physique. If anything, with the giant boobs, they give some of the characters, the petite one looks more like a normal woman.
Note - I've never played these games, i am just making a comment based on these screenshots that i don't see what the fuss is.
So this is how tweenieboppers get off these days, huh? No more need for the porn mag hidden under the drawers, it's hidden in their unassuming video games.
My thoughts exactly .
Hell as someone who would like studios that don't mind making sports games make a Volley Ball focused game , I was "pleased" with the very first title in that series because well the Volley Ball game had a good gameplay loop .
But yeah just like transistor I wouldn't mind this series existence if they didn't flirt with loli shit so much , because again just like Senran Kagura and other seires they are unappologeticaly going "yes we're selling you boobies for the sake of boobies , if you're not okay with that then you're just not who we are marketing to" .
They don't try to bullshit their way out of it . Buuuut then again the Marie Rose stuff is downright creepy .
Obviously stuff like Marie Rose and any underage looking characters needs to go, but I really don't see anything inherently wrong with having a bikini babe fanservice game doing exactly what it set out to do. If you don't like it that's A-okay, but I don't get why you would seek it out and then proceed to get angry over it.
Dead or Alive was built on the backs of men who are afraid to talk to women. They have to support that (rapidly growing in Japan) audience. Being afraid to talk to women also leads many of these men to...prefer female characters that are young, innocent, and submissive.
"I'll take 'The Grand Tetons' for $1,000, Alex."
The DOA team is shameless. I hope nobody supports this but I also know humans.
tbh thats my main problem. the series is what it is
and imma still buy them shits too
Say what you want about Itagaki but at least under him the series knew how to play with eroticism without being...like this, which is basically softcore. DOA2, 3 or 4 are much more tasteful. It all went downhill from 5 onwards.
Also, what's the monetization scheme for this game? Since it's f2p/gacha...I kinda guess it...the more "nudity", the harder to obtain. Right?
PS: In case no one remembers, characters like Kasumi and Ayane were underage for a long, long time. They aged them up for Western releases after a Finnish classification board denied cert for DOA Dimensions because the game said they were 16 or 17. I don't know if the Japanese versions followed this change but I doubt it since in Japan you can buy those softcore magazines with teens.
Also, what's the monetization scheme for this game? Since it's f2p/gacha...I kinda guess it...the more "nudity", the harder to obtain. Right?
PS: In case no one remembers, characters like Kasumi and Ayane were underage for a long, long time. They aged them up for Western releases after a Finnish classification board denied cert for DOA Dimensions because the game said they were 16 or 17. I don't know if the Japanese versions followed this change but I doubt it since in Japan you can buy those softcore magazines with teens.
Seriously? Smh.
Between that and "If we just stick 18 on this then we're all good" what a shitshow.
It was weird going into one of this site's spinoff discords and finding out there was a channel for the game in there, that's for sure
Despite not being a fan of sexualized content myself, DOA2 is one of my favorite games of all time (top 10). Really ridiculous that they make games with only the fan service, I have no intentions of playing those.
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It's also a fun arcade fighting game? I certainly didn't buy the latest DOA because of issues with women.
I'd say your criticism would apply to the spinoffs though. Since those aren't even a game.
I didn't say it wasn't, I'm just saying the gravity defying titties and upskirts were a huge focus before 6.
I can't tell the ages of anyone in these games by looking at their faces. Marie Rose could be 14 or 28.
Still, these games creep me the fuck out.
Still, these games creep me the fuck out.
In my personal experience, the weirdest crossover between this site (or maybe it was NeoGAF and I'm getting my wires crossed) and Dead or Alive was when I read the argument that if Marie Rose was at the high school the user worked at that they wouldn't be able to tell if she was a teacher or a student.
Man, there's everyday douche chills and then there's stuff like that which brings about the douche rigors
Also that video sure didn't seem like a "new low" like didn't there used to be fondling and other voyeuristic stuff?
Didn't know about her. Wow, that takes some balls, especially in the wake of the UN's interest in banning all minors/perceived minors from being sexualized in anime/manga/games.
Marie Rose? Pfsh. Check out the game's newest character, Kanna:
A tengu like Nyotengu that is *checks paper* 1014 years old.
Didn't know about her. Wow, that takes some balls, especially in the wake of the UN's interest in banning all minors/perceived minors from being sexualized in anime/manga/games.
The japanese culture around the woman figure, or the sex in general, can be really, really creepy.
Despite her being busty I honestly always found Honoka way more disturbing than Marie Rose. She acts like a literal toddler. It's creepy.
She's so "dumb-naive" it goes full circle and ends up being funny. If you play that crossover musou Warriors All-Stars (not that great) the dialogues are pretty funny in parts.
Just gonna play the Devil's Advocate and say "seriously"? Dunno what to think anymore.
I watched like a collective 3 seconds of that trailer and I'm glad everyone else went to sleep because that shit was weird.
Just make a porn game Tecmo. And then use the proceeds to make Ninja Gaiden 4.
Just make a porn game Tecmo. And then use the proceeds to make Ninja Gaiden 4.
This is a game that had a boob jiggle slider option in 1996.
Personally I think everyone should accept that this is a softcore series. I wouldn't mind if you boycott it or even tried to have it cancelled. But it has always been this, and fans know what they buying into.
There's some very questionable Twitter accounts out there who bombard specific companies and people with regards to """censorship""" of stuff like DOA, and they're such cringe material. You ask them if sexualised depictions of underage characters is child pornography, and they always fall back on that bullshit excuse of "But they're fictional!".
Still, even if fictional, its child pornography. None of them want to admit they're closet paedophiles and need to be watched. I think paedos do need help to deal with their problems, not the type of person who believes they all ought to be killed or sent to the Phantom Zone, but when these kinds of fucks try to get off with the "fictional" excuse? Come on tae fuck, you fool nobody, not even yourself.
Then there's also the turd gobbling excuse of "But violence in games!!". Society accepts violence as a means to an end (Its not called the police FORCE for no reason), yes, but that doesn't mean paedophilia is acceptable in any way.
Goddamnit I hate this shit.
Still, even if fictional, its child pornography. None of them want to admit they're closet paedophiles and need to be watched. I think paedos do need help to deal with their problems, not the type of person who believes they all ought to be killed or sent to the Phantom Zone, but when these kinds of fucks try to get off with the "fictional" excuse? Come on tae fuck, you fool nobody, not even yourself.
Then there's also the turd gobbling excuse of "But violence in games!!". Society accepts violence as a means to an end (Its not called the police FORCE for no reason), yes, but that doesn't mean paedophilia is acceptable in any way.
Goddamnit I hate this shit.
The time skip advancing everyone's ages by two years was in DoA5 not 4, 5 being the first that series creator Tomonobu Itagaki had nothing to do with (I recall him being said to complain about them making everyone older in his absence).
Itagaki literally added pole dancing to the DoAX sub-series starting with DoAX2.
User Banned (Permanent): Downplaying content depicting specialized minors; previous severe infractions
Hmm. I don't really disagree with your overall sentiment, but child pornography is universally considered bad because it involves real children being exploited. If it's completely fictional, well, maybe it should be banned, but it is not the clear cut evil that something involving real children is. It's like the difference between snuff films and depicting murder in fiction. You should distinguish between the two, actually, even if I see why you'd advocate for it all to be banned.
I honestly struggle to imagine how they think the sort of whales who buy this DLC will make up for the amount of players they drive away with this stuff.
Also "she looks 14, but some girls I knew in college just happen to look like that." is a phrase I've heard too often on the internet in relation to a billion different games. Many people do look younger than they are by they're a rarity and a lot of anime games seems to have one that acts and talks like a 10 year old.
Also "she looks 14, but some girls I knew in college just happen to look like that." is a phrase I've heard too often on the internet in relation to a billion different games. Many people do look younger than they are by they're a rarity and a lot of anime games seems to have one that acts and talks like a 10 year old.
I understand your point, but I just think child pornography in any form has no place in society, even as a fictionalised drawing. Being a victim of abuse myself, I know how it damages you as a person. Anything that can take anyone towards that path, or help to normalise it, isn't worth it.
You kind of have it backwards, as that IS the whole premise of the game in the first place. That is the game they are selling, not the measure they go to to sell the game.
I totally get that point and respect it. I just had to make the point that directly endangering real children is an immediate and clear wrong in a way that putting harmful art out into society is less clear cut, even if you might be right.
Child porn is also illegal because has been shown in most studies to vastly increase the likelihood of the watcher committing child sexual abuse. There is little reason to think it would be different with fictional child porn.
It doesn't come out in America
Still don't know if it would considering that would be considered partial nudity.
I don't really think that's why it's illegal, because we are otherwise very resistant to links between media and real world consequences.
But maybe sexualization in fiction does lead to more real world harm than something like violence in videogames or movies.
Yes I think we should be clear that endangering real children is an immediate problem that is separate from the problems of fictional depiction.
Characters like Marie Rose are put into fiction with the intent of capturing the attention of pedophiles.
Murder is not put into fiction to capture the attention of the coveted murderer demographic.
I honestly think they're just trying to have different body types in the game (altough im only seeing 2 maybe 3). That said dont get me wrong i get how it can be seen as a problem.
Short and/or flat chested adult women don't come across the way Marie Rose/Kanna do, so if they were going for that body type, they got lazy and just decided to draw children.