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Do you want a screen built into your game controller?
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No, the negatives by far outweigh the positives.
For it to be usable as a remote gaming device it'd need to be pretty big, thus costly and would drain the battery.
The rare creative uses of that screen would be counted on one hand.
A little screen would be pretty much useless and would distract more than anything else.
For it to be usable as a remote gaming device it'd need to be pretty big, thus costly and would drain the battery.
The rare creative uses of that screen would be counted on one hand.
A little screen would be pretty much useless and would distract more than anything else.
Seems inevitable, even if it's a super low quality screen, makes total sense. You have regular buttons for muscle memory, and the screen for other stuff like invoking chat, map, inventory management maybe.
DS4 kinda already SLIGHTLY has it, it's, a "touchscreen", screen sized, without the actual screen, haha. So you end up jabbing random parts of the touchpad to find the assigned location you are looking for! I still don't know how to chat in rocket league, i jab that touchpad and it saves game replays and other shit I don't want, and eventually it brings me up the thing where i can type 'gg'.
Maybe if you could clip it off and on, you could replace controllers without paying for the screen part every time.
Do this Sony, make the PS4 a better high quality living room appliance. Don't go chasing the Switch's niche or something..ugh.
DS4 kinda already SLIGHTLY has it, it's, a "touchscreen", screen sized, without the actual screen, haha. So you end up jabbing random parts of the touchpad to find the assigned location you are looking for! I still don't know how to chat in rocket league, i jab that touchpad and it saves game replays and other shit I don't want, and eventually it brings me up the thing where i can type 'gg'.
Maybe if you could clip it off and on, you could replace controllers without paying for the screen part every time.
Do this Sony, make the PS4 a better high quality living room appliance. Don't go chasing the Switch's niche or something..ugh.
Well, I do play almost exclusively on portables, and portables are essentially a combination of screen and controller... But no, not on consoles or PC. When I'm using a TV or monitor, I'm holding my controller far too low relative to my line of sight, so it'd only be an inconvenience.
As much as I enjoyed ZombiU, after Star Fox Zero I'm all set. If they want to do something fun like the RDR2 map on my phone, then sure. Otherwise I'm good.
No, my eyes are on the TV or in a VR headset. I never look at my controller. FFS and I don't need even less battery life, because of some uncalled for "innovation".
I loved the second screen on wii u. Lego city undercover rocks!
Games like ass creed where the map and inventory were moved off screen and accessible quicker were much improved.
It was a shame the controller was paired with an underpowered console, but the idea itself was decent.
Games like ass creed where the map and inventory were moved off screen and accessible quicker were much improved.
It was a shame the controller was paired with an underpowered console, but the idea itself was decent.
No one will know this answer for sure until their favorite company shows their next gen controllers.
I don't see how it could benefit us? Plus it would have to turn off the display to save up some battery
WiiU proved to me that a second screen is not only good but preferable. I actually reached a point where I would instinctively look down at the controller for map or inventory when playing non-wiiU games. I eventually broke myself of that but I still think it's more than just a novelty and legitimately enhances the gameplay experience. Also makes typing an order of magnitude better than the default solutions used by any current controller based interface.
I especially loved the more creative uses for it like where Tokyo Mirage Session used it to have text conversations with characters completely independently of whatever you were doing on the top screen and at your own leisure. You could get a text in the store, run across to meet up with another character and then respond to the text message on your gamepad at any point during that without interrupting gameplay. Made it that much more immersive.
I especially loved the more creative uses for it like where Tokyo Mirage Session used it to have text conversations with characters completely independently of whatever you were doing on the top screen and at your own leisure. You could get a text in the store, run across to meet up with another character and then respond to the text message on your gamepad at any point during that without interrupting gameplay. Made it that much more immersive.
I still love it. Beating someone at Virtua tennis only using that screen was the best taunt ever. Portable mini game like the skies of arcadia one were fun to have too.Only this one
Taking your eyes off the TV sucks. DS only works because the screens are right next to each other.
Yes. A very, very simple yes. First an improved wiimote setup didn't become the standard. Then an improved Wii U gamepad didn't become the standard. You people all suck. Switch handheld console hybrid aint gonna become the industry standard either. Everything good Nintendo does never catches on.
I want great battery life, which would probably not happen if a screen was in the controller, so no.
A good way to summarize my answer.
I wouldn't go out of my mind to ask for a WiiU Gamepad rehash, but a few games did some neat stuff with that second screen.
So yeah, why not?
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Hmm, OK how about the screen mostly allowing you to access OS level controls, social media, chat, music... All that sort of jazz? So you want to change songs in Spotify? It's on the screen. Chat controls, they're on the screen. Do a quick edit of a photo or video you just captured with the share button and upload to social media... That sort of stuff.
Some system-level media buttons wouldn't be a bad idea. Next song, Play/Pause, Stop, that kind of thing might be fine.
They don't need to be on a screen though, they can be buttons or touchpad gestures (and PS4 already has pretty quick access to these functions - the key media functions all have single-button shortcuts when you have the media tab open on the PS quick menu).
Social media, chat and image editing would be terrible on a tiny screen and a screen large enough to do them comfortably would have most of the problems that everyone has already mentioned throughout this topic (at least having a screen for those functions wouldn't affect gameplay, but would still add to the size and cost of a controller and reduce its battery life). Why would it be better to do any of these on a controller anyway? This is stuff that can be offloaded to a phone app (image editing is admittedly a little tricky to get working with an app since you need to get the image to the phone, but there's plenty of ways that could be solved).
My question would be, why not just bump this off to a companion app for iOS/Android? It's slightly less convenient but if you're just adding OS-level "quick controls", I don't think I'd want to pay for the screen on a controller. I'd rather just pick up my phone. Screen-having controllers only make sense if it actually adds some kind of value to games(or maybe if it was Wii U-like and allowed off-TV play). Otherwise the tradeoffs(in cost, weight, size, etc) arent worth it just so I can skip a song or upload a screenshot marginally easier.
Although obviously if I already had a controller with a screen those things would be natural additions to help justify it. I just think you need to sell the screen for gaming purposes and not just as a slightly more convenient input method for system functions to justify it's inclusion.
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I do have to wonder how much more a decent OLED screen costs to a manufacturer compared to something like the DS4's touchpad. Maybe a couple or few dollars more per unit? I don't think costs would go up significantly.
Yes, people do that type of thing in an office. They do it because they have a physical piece of paper that they need to reference while working on their computer monitor. That doesn't mean it's optimal. You still haven't really put forth an arguement as to WHY that is a desirable thing to do when much better alternatives already exist in single-screen UI design; all you're doing is acknowledging that people are already used to doing that thing without evaluating its intrinsic worth.
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Whenever I have to do this, I tape the paper up next to the monitor if it's going to be referenced frequently. Either because I need to transcribe something, or I have something that needs constant referencing.
Or I'll copy it onto my computer for easier reference... or if it's just once, I'll look at it once and be done with it.
I don't want a screen in my controller.
Absolutely not.
Rendering a second screen is a waste of resources. Plus, it would drive up hardware cost which would then be cut from important things like the CPU and GPU.
As someone said on the first page, a companion app would be good. Destiny had a PC app that let you modify your inventory and pull from storage without actually going there. Things like that work well, if not better than a second touch screen, and they don't have any ramifications for the hardware.
Rendering a second screen is a waste of resources. Plus, it would drive up hardware cost which would then be cut from important things like the CPU and GPU.
As someone said on the first page, a companion app would be good. Destiny had a PC app that let you modify your inventory and pull from storage without actually going there. Things like that work well, if not better than a second touch screen, and they don't have any ramifications for the hardware.
Nah. Unnecessary extra weight, and when i play, i'd rather keep watching my actual screen than look down at a controller screen.
Yes, If it is a touchable e-ink like a Kindle. Barely any power draw, and can create any button necessary.
I would be upset if the mandatory controller screen would be too small for off TV game play. Ideally, if there is a DualShock5 with a screen, it should be an optional controller since some of us invested in premium controllers in the prior generation.
I want off TV play since I mainly play video games in my bedroom and I want to put away a portable sized unit on the nightstand when I am done for the day.
Shame I missed out on the Dekavita7 because with a Dualshock3 to DualShock4 adapter, I can play Destiny with little lag and access the rear buttons. Sadly, I heard that the Dekavita7 controller was not intended for faster paced games.
I am annoyed that Bungie doesn't allow the mele and grenade buttons to be on the TouchPad for the Vita since some of us for custom cases made for remote play. Also, it is annoying that Sony doesn't allow two logins of the same username for remote play using a Ps4 controller attached to the system to prevent lag.
Why hasn't a popular third party made a cell phone sized Hdmi monitor made for gaming? I know about the photography market but I am worried about the lag.
It would not shock me much if the next generation of consoles would allow multiple screens for multi-player on the same system game play.
I want off TV play since I mainly play video games in my bedroom and I want to put away a portable sized unit on the nightstand when I am done for the day.
Shame I missed out on the Dekavita7 because with a Dualshock3 to DualShock4 adapter, I can play Destiny with little lag and access the rear buttons. Sadly, I heard that the Dekavita7 controller was not intended for faster paced games.
I am annoyed that Bungie doesn't allow the mele and grenade buttons to be on the TouchPad for the Vita since some of us for custom cases made for remote play. Also, it is annoying that Sony doesn't allow two logins of the same username for remote play using a Ps4 controller attached to the system to prevent lag.
Why hasn't a popular third party made a cell phone sized Hdmi monitor made for gaming? I know about the photography market but I am worried about the lag.
It would not shock me much if the next generation of consoles would allow multiple screens for multi-player on the same system game play.
Nintendo had 5 (?) years to make games that took advantage of the Wii U and only came out with a handful of good ones. I'd say that if Nintendo couldn't come up with much reason to have it, nobody else will.
No. I want to go back to simpler times, when controllers were wired, reliable, and cost 15 dollars.
No, because
1.it will increase costs (and controllers are already ridiculously expensive)
2. pose longevity/reliability issues
3. and (assuming its backlit) will be an annoying distraction.
1.it will increase costs (and controllers are already ridiculously expensive)
2. pose longevity/reliability issues
3. and (assuming its backlit) will be an annoying distraction.