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Do you think we'll see the 6th archstone restored in Demon's Souls remake? Do you want it to be restored?
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Fractured Mode was only ever mentioned in that first youtube description and was then removed, yes.
What I'm remembering and trying to find is that they came out and said something to the effect of "the trailer description contained information that is now considered outdated". I can find other people talking about them saying this but I can't find them saying it.
Here's the Polygon article being updated to acknowledge their statement, for example:
Demon’s Souls remake coming to PS5
FromSoftware’s original ‘Souls’ game is going next-gen
www.polygon.com
Thank you !Here's the Polygon article being updated to acknowledge their statement, for example:
Demon’s Souls remake coming to PS5
FromSoftware’s original ‘Souls’ game is going next-gen
What if the real sixth archstone was the friends we made along the way?
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It's supposed to be a re-imagining so I'd like to see it restored. Maybe have it as a secret unlockable tied to either Pure White or Pure Black World Tendency.
WAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHI'm so going to invade and scraping spear the shit out of you
I'd rather it stay broken so I don't have to read about how Miyazaki-san would've done it differently
That's the broken archstone, still broken. Does it mean that the content won't be added? Not necessarily, but I'm tempering my expectations.
I'd like them to fix it (or rather a side quest where you can fix it). As long as it doesn't somehow interfere with a pretty faithful adaptation of the rest of the Remake I see no reason why it would be a bad thing. I mean, if it's mediocre content just skip it - and it's not like there isn't mediocre content in Souls games anyways.
Another options is to leave it broken in the base game but make a DLC where you can fix it and it'a Bluepoint's take on what the level could have been.
Another options is to leave it broken in the base game but make a DLC where you can fix it and it'a Bluepoint's take on what the level could have been.
I don't expect Bluepoint to add any significant new content to the game. At least not on its own.
On new weapon is one thing. So is making some QOL adjustments. So is how they added a new sword and a new collect-a-thon to Shadow of the Colossus. A whole new level in a game known for its level design is another matter entirely.
Bluepoint isn't really known for actually "designing" games. Every game they've done so far has really just spruced up the graphics and left everything else the same as before. Every screenshot and video of Demon's Souls we've seen so far has mapped 1:1 with the level design and gameplay of the PS3 version.
That is, I don't know how close to completion the sixth archstone actually was when From originally decided to cut it.
On new weapon is one thing. So is making some QOL adjustments. So is how they added a new sword and a new collect-a-thon to Shadow of the Colossus. A whole new level in a game known for its level design is another matter entirely.
Bluepoint isn't really known for actually "designing" games. Every game they've done so far has really just spruced up the graphics and left everything else the same as before. Every screenshot and video of Demon's Souls we've seen so far has mapped 1:1 with the level design and gameplay of the PS3 version.
That is, I don't know how close to completion the sixth archstone actually was when From originally decided to cut it.
Haven't played Dark Souls 2 yet I see.... or the second half of dark souls 1.
I'm sure they could shit out a bland area with one enemy copy pasted over and over if they wanted to.
Keep it busted imo. I like the in-universe explanation that it was done to prevent the fog from advancing or whatever. I also like the nonsense lore of it being the giant land from DS2 lol. If it's meant to be northern limits that area has always looked boring to me.
Also calling it now you'll see a thread about how they added 'praise the sun' into the game even though it was there already.
Also calling it now you'll see a thread about how they added 'praise the sun' into the game even though it was there already.
I'm a die hard fan of the original, but honestly I hope they add a ton of stuff like weapons and spells. I don't care, twist stuff like more hidden optional bosses, bring QoL from ds3 and bb. And yes bring the last area, a lot of stuff is already there anyway.
At this point i would say still broken, unless they are trying to deceive us nd style, but I'm Not counting on it. But i think there's the possibility of a dlc.
Ah thanks for the explanation, first time DS player here :)
It would be cool to see but I'm not expecting it. If there was a new area I would just want it to not be required for beating the game / NG+ cycles
You most definitely aren't. I just don't want it being a non From addition. Like don't even know how I'd feel about them cleaning up and using the stuff that has been data mined without any additional From involvement.
I'm actually fully fine with Bluepoint creating some new areas/content. I think it'd be fun.
However, I think I'd prefer it to be accessed in a totally new way/somewhere else rather than taking over an important part of existing lore that fans have speculated and wished for for donkey's years. I think something like the broken archstone should be left as is and not be taken on by a new studio.
But some other areas/chalice dungeon type things that can be accessed somewhere else (with far less fan obsession/expectation)? Go mad imo.
However, I think I'd prefer it to be accessed in a totally new way/somewhere else rather than taking over an important part of existing lore that fans have speculated and wished for for donkey's years. I think something like the broken archstone should be left as is and not be taken on by a new studio.
But some other areas/chalice dungeon type things that can be accessed somewhere else (with far less fan obsession/expectation)? Go mad imo.
I agree with this, I'm also nervous (and I know it's silly to be nervous about a game) about the art direction. From, in my opinion, has an amazing and very deliberate art style for their games like when Miyazaki describe Elden Ring's style being about finding beauty in decay. I know Bluepoint is trying to keep it as faithful to the original as possible, but I'd still be interested to hear from them what approach and end goal are to the art direction of the remake.
They'll need direct involvement from From to provide the original design documents, ideas and unfinished assets.
I don't think From was even that involved in the production of the remake.
I wouldn't mind Bluepoint adding their own spin to the game but I can't see it happening.
I don't think From was even that involved in the production of the remake.
I wouldn't mind Bluepoint adding their own spin to the game but I can't see it happening.
I recently saw a thread here where someone detained the ps3 version to find the 6th archetype map. It was unfinished as heck but that tells me there was certainly an effort for it. But the question is does BluePoint have the reins to create a whole new area, or are they under contract to simply update the existing ones? Wouldn't Miyazaki want to have a say in a new arch?
Yeah this is my take.
Bluepoint clearly love Demon's Souls a lot. They were gushing about it long before they could even say what it was.
And it wouldn't even be completely new. They'd just be finishing the level that FROM couldn't finish. That is way more interesting to me than the rest of the remake. I want to see the northern limit.
Make it optional.
Make it a secret quest to repair.
Base it off of the original map and enemies.
Give Bluepoint a chance to try something new. And if they nail it, let them try out a sequel. FROM is never making Demon's Souls 2. So what can it hurt. Bluepoint haven't gotten to make anything original in how long? And they are a quality dev.
I think it's pretty shitty seeing some people say "ehh I don't want to see them do original content; I see them as more good at restoring content." Well no shit asshole lol.
I would think, in this day and age, that if they were adding content, they'd already be advertising the fact.
But imagine if they did add another level, and managed to keep it a secret until it was discovered by players? That would be incredible.
But imagine if they did add another level, and managed to keep it a secret until it was discovered by players? That would be incredible.
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Buy Demon's Souls - PS5™ Disc Game | PlayStation® (US)
Become the slayer of demons as you venture to the northern kingdom of Boletaria – a once prosperous land of knights, now beset with unspeakable evil on PS5.
direct.playstation.com
2-6 network players confirmed. Maybe it WILL be a PvP arena where we can have battle royales or 3v3 duels or what not. Or 3v3 invasions/red stone duels are in. Either way, I'm stoked. 2vX and 3vX battles were among my favourite parts of Dark Souls 3 PVP.
I linked to that very thread in the OP....
This.
It's a remake, I'll take it, try & give me something new, there's always original game to go back to.
But looks unlikely.
The only real way I'm seeing this as a possibility is if Miyazaki signed on OR gave them his blessing to do it themselves.
SIE Japan and BluePoint respect Miyazaki too much to just create something fresh in his world without even contacting him.
Would be super sick if they got Miyazaki to come in and design the new archstone level.. ugh the DREAAAAAAM.
SIE Japan and BluePoint respect Miyazaki too much to just create something fresh in his world without even contacting him.
Would be super sick if they got Miyazaki to come in and design the new archstone level.. ugh the DREAAAAAAM.
I'm not expecting it to be repaired. Bluepoint is really good at keeping their remasters and remakes as true to the source material as possible. Even the "addition" they made to Shadow of the Colossus Remake was super minimal and didn't have a major impact on the experience as a whole, whereas, them adding an entire new location would be quite a big thing to include.
Would I be upset if they restored it? No.
Would I be upset if they restored it? No.
Nice ! Thanks for the confirmation.Buy Demon's Souls - PS5™ Disc Game | PlayStation® (US)
Become the slayer of demons as you venture to the northern kingdom of Boletaria – a once prosperous land of knights, now beset with unspeakable evil on PS5.
2-6 network players confirmed. Maybe it WILL be a PvP arena where we can have battle royales or 3v3 duels or what not. Or 3v3 invasions/red stone duels are in. Either way, I'm stoked. 2vX and 3vX battles were among my favourite parts of Dark Souls 3 PVP.
I linked to that very thread in the OP....
Only reason why I'm not decided on it yet is cause I don't want the balance of the game messed with to much.
What I mean by balance is the interactions between arch stones; like finding the sword of storms in one arch stone and fighting Storm king in another. If you add an arch stone do you spread the content around all 6 or keep it the same and have the 6th stone it's separate entity. And if it's a separate entity, like all new content, then it'll be all Bluepoint.
I dunno..