Do you think the next PlayStation's launch will be as successful as the PS4's in sales? POLL

[Premium]

No, and simply because you cannot count on MS making the same glaring mistakes they did before, mistakes which clearly aided Sony's initial launch and subsequent momentum the entire generation.

The PS4 was so weak in the games department its first year and still outsold XB1 like 3:1.

That kind of dominance was clearly competition aided. Those market conditions won't exist in the next launch.

 

[Duxxy3]

Unless Microsoft screws up again I think launch aligned it will start off slow. It will pick up over time though, and i think it will match the PS4. I don't believe consoles are going anywhere.

 

[Electro]

Yes it does. Many people bought coming from 360 hype thinking QB would next Alan Wake , Halo 5 which would be good solid Halo game , Scalebound , etc etc all mattered to Xbox fast competitive start. Even shit like Ryse and Dead Rising helped X1 to sell more during periods

Now people turned to playstation with Spider Man and God of War particularly no way those people wont buy next PS5 instead of Xbox

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Yeah, I am sure most PS4 owners are very pleased with their console and I don't see a reason why they should switch the platform.

Especially with confirmed BC.

 

[Keikaku]

Ryzen 3 will make PS5 CPU outdated months before it is launched.

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Zen 2 is Ryzen 3 and will have enough horsepower to last a decade for 60fps games.

 

[N.Domixis]

If they don't pull a pS3 or Xbox one PR move disaster. I say yes. An audience of 100 million is no joke if you don't piss them off. Also switch doesn't compete with them directly, they compliment each other

 

[Kage Maru]

Yes it does. Many people bought coming from 360 hype thinking QB would next Alan Wake , Halo 5 which would be good solid Halo game , Scalebound , etc etc all mattered to Xbox fast competitive start. Even shit like Ryse and Dead Rising helped X1 to sell more during periods

Now people turned to playstation with Spider Man and God of War particularly no way those people wont buy next PS5 instead of Xbox

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If MS provides compelling hardware and games, people will buy it. It's silly to think otherwise.

 

[flyingman]

If MS provides compelling hardware and games, people will buy it. It's silly to think otherwise.

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People literally went from PS2 to 360 because it was released early , 3 lost a lot of exc franchises like tekken,ff,PES etc to Xbox , 360 had a lot of exclusives ,digital store , much better online

Why would anyone switch from PS4 ? While last big 2 xbox games has 50 metascore while PS4 getting amazing games to days. Last of us , Dreams , Medevil,Death Stranding etc. People remember these. Microsoft is like all talk but no action kid

 

[Kage Maru]

People literally went from PS2 to 360 because it was released early , 3 lost a lot of exc franchises like tekken,ff,PES etc to Xbox , 360 had a lot of exclusives ,digital store , much better online

Why would anyone switch from PS4 ? While last big 2 xbox games has 50 metascore while PS4 getting amazing games to days. Last of us , Dreams , Medevil,Death Stranding etc. People remember these. Microsoft is like all talk but no action kid

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I'm sorry, you're right, no one will buy the next Xbox. MS should just cancel the project and bow out of the games industry.

I don't even understand how this topic is fitting for hot takes on the Xbox.

 

[flyingman]

I'm sorry, you're right, no one will buy the next Xbox. MS should just cancel the project and bow out of the games industry.

I don't even understand how this topic is fitting for hot takes on the Xbox.

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They are releasing those devices to just compliment their services. They arent that competitive in race anymore. They are simply trying to get more money from services and users. So next xbox probably wont sell 30-35 million combined but they may get profit because no stupid deals like NFL,COD etc just pure profit

 

[Deleted member 2145]

had to say no but I don't think that's bad. the PS4 was an incredibly successful console, it's not easy to just pull that off every time. with a reinvigorated MS ready to compete you've gotta figure this gen won't be as lopsided as the Xbox One/PS4 gen was, at least in certain key markets like North America. and we don't even have to mention the Wii U. so no it won't reach PS4 levels but I don't think that should be the expectation. the PS4 will be only the 4th console to cross 100 million sold. also reading the specs interview it feels like the PS5 won't be able to hit that $399 price point which was a super crucial aspect to the PS4's early dominance.

 

[AyaisMUsikWhore]

I think it will have a successful launch but no where near PS4 numbers. I still think they should hold off until 2021 but I guess that's not happening so welp

 

[Electro]

People literally went from PS2 to 360 because it was released early , 3 lost a lot of exc franchises like tekken,ff,PES etc to Xbox , 360 had a lot of exclusives ,digital store , much better online

Why would anyone switch from PS4 ? While last big 2 xbox games has 50 metascore while PS4 getting amazing games to days. Last of us , Dreams , Medevil,Death Stranding etc. People remember these. Microsoft is like all talk but no action kid

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360 had great first years but the second half of the gen was bad imo and PS3 gots also games like Mass Effect or Bioshock.
PS3 delivered great last years and that was imo also a reason why many switched to the PS4.

And this gen I see a similar situation because people will not forget games like Spider Man, GoW, Tlou2 etc...

MS must proof that they can more than Halo, Gears and Forza.
The best times of these IP's are imo over.

 

[Kage Maru]

They are releasing those devices to just compliment their services. They arent that competitive in race anymore. They are simply trying to get more money from services and users. So next xbox probably wont sell 30-35 million combined but they may get profit because no stupid deals like NFL,COD etc just pure profit

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LOL sure. They aren't trying to be competitive which is why they purchased 7 studios in the last year and are working on two consoles to compete on the high and low end.

Thank you for showing me the light.

 

[RPGamer92]

Yes thanks to BC. People will trade in PS4 to help lower PS5 cost.

 

[Basarili]

If the price is going to be 399 then yes.

 

[flyingman]

360 had great first years but the second half of the gen was bad imo and PS3 gots also games like Mass Effect or Bioshock.
PS3 delivered great last years and that was imo also a reason why many switched to the PS4.

And this gen I see a similar situation because people will not forget games like Spider Man, GoW, Tlou2 etc...

MS must proof that they can more than Halo, Gears and Forza.
The best time of these IP's are imo over.

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For 360
First half before Uncharted 2 GoW3 , before 3rd party realized power of PS3 they got lots of exclusive games or much better versions. Also ps3 was cheapened during that. After 2010 they brought new audience with Kinect .

 

[Sora78]

PS5's launch will be as successful as the PS4 if Sony has strong exclusives at launch. And if the price does not exceed 499$

 

[Donthizz]

It will probably launch with death stranding. So who knows. Maybe

 

[N.Domixis]

had to say no but I don't think that's bad. the PS4 was an incredibly successful console, it's not easy to just pull that off every time. with a reinvigorated MS ready to compete you've gotta figure this gen won't be as lopsided as the Xbox One/PS4 gen was, at least in certain key markets like North America. and we don't even have to mention the Wii U. so no it won't reach PS4 levels but I don't think that should be the expectation. the PS4 will be only the 4th console to cross 100 million sold. also reading the specs interview it feels like the PS5 won't be able to hit that $399 price point which was a super crucial aspect to the PS4's early dominance.

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It's not even that lopsided in US lol. They are like 3 million behind. It's the rest of the world where the gap is freaking huge. Why do people forget his?

 

[Electro]

For 360
First half before Uncharted 2 GoW3 , before 3rd party realized power of PS3 they got lots of exclusive games or much better versions. Also ps3 was cheapened during that. After 2010 they brought new audience with Kinect .

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Yeah, around 2009 lots of things changed very positive for PS3.

 

[Manmademan]

No, I don't think.
PS5 Sell Well, but we don't know if he reach 150M like PS2
I think PS5 sell like PS3.

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The PS3 launched at $600 in the year leading up to a worldwide economic collapse.

There is NO WAY the PS5 sells like the PS3 did.

 

[Psychonaut]

I don't expect their competition to be as weak this time around, so no. They could goose numbers a bit by launching one of their three big upcoming games day-and-date, though...

 

[Marcus Brutalius]

Ryzen 3 will make PS5 CPU outdated months before it is launched.

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When will gaming board members ever learn that this means absolutely zero to the average joes out there.

 

[Mr.Deadshot]

Only if it's 399.

 

[acheron_xl]

The PS3 launched at $600 in the year leading up to a worldwide economic collapse.

There is NO WAY the PS5 sells like the PS3 did.

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There's a greater than zero chance PS5 launches at $499+ and the world economy tanks in '20 or '21.

 

[Alienhated]

Its launch, like its first week or month, its first holiday? Yes, it will be just as successful and probably even more.

But after that? Probably not. I just don't think people are hungry for next gen as much as they where in 2013.

 

[Deleted member 11479]

Depends on how many units they will be able to produce. They will be supply constrained anyway.

 

[daveo42]

I think it'll be successful dependent on price and how close it releases to the next Xbox. Seems like Sony will be going second if the PS5 might not release until fall 2020.

 

[TheRaidenPT]

I think it will sell on par with PS4 at the start, maybe a little less but around the same.

 

[makingmusic476]

I think it depends in large part on the economy.

The US hasn't had a recession since 2008.

 

[Kenjovani]

I think it will be on par even if it sells at 499. The marketing needs to be on pint though.

 

[Electro]

Depends on how many units they will be able to produce. They will be supply constrained anyway.

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Yeah, PS4 was sold out mostly everywhere the first months after launch.

Will be interesting if Sony can manage to deliver more consoles at launch.

 

[Thera]

With faster loading and maybe improved performance and upscale of your entire library? I think they can sell it even more.
But don't forget they don't have a lot of units in the market in the first 6 months.

 

[Arkaign]

I think it's going to be more muted than before.

Nintendo fans are happily set with their switches.

Xbox has very little momentum at the moment, exclusives have trickled out in recent years for them and with very mixed reception. Their big feather in the cap is 'best console multiplat', but it hasn't translated to huge sales, and also overlaps with doing it better still on PC anyway. Gamepass and Streaming, ehh. Good options, but not compelling ones.

PS has excellent momentum thanks to years of well received exclusives. The fact that PS5 is BC (and almost certainly 'enhance' for PS4 games) means PS4 customers with PS+ and physical+digital libraries/friends will have the easiest way to just go PS5 if they're interested in a 9th gen box, as they keep everything they've paid for. Just like an X1S/X1X customer may decide to go Xbox again because their games/services will carry over.

The price is going to be why I think 9th gen will have an amazing holiday performance before dropping down substantially afterwards. PS4 and X1 both basically sold out first Nov/Dec. Diehard fans will pay whatever the cost at first. But once the initial hysteria passes, reality sets in. As 2014 progressed, sales for the $499 X1 hit the floor, $449 didn't save it, and despite doing 'better', $399 PS4 was basically just steadily plodding along as well until the fall of 2014.

Hugely popular IPs like Fortnite and Minecraft run on toasters, so that's another thing where it will be tougher to push $500 consoles beyond the enthusiast space.

Anyway, overall I expect PS5 to lead, but not at the same pace to begin with. Xbox to do 'better' than X1, but not by a lot, and overall a bit muted 9th gen until mass market pricing hits AND 8th gen is no longer getting supported. PS4 will still be a major force in 2020 and a solid presence in 2021 simply due to economics.

 

[cw_sasuke]

If it's 400 ? Maybe but even this wouldnt be easy with Nintendo and MS being in much stronger position than during the initial PS4 years. People who are invested into their Switches or happy with the Cloud future and GamePass library quality might not be willing or ready to upgrade to other systems that early again.

PS4 was THE follow up system for most of the Wii/PS3/360 crowd to jump on - more or less a no brainer because Nintendo and MS screwed up their initial console messaging. It won't be like this again.

Same for people that just recently upgraded or bought the Pro/One X consoles - the jump from PS360 to PS4 was massive and large parts of the audience have been ready to upgrade for 2-3 years already. Those players might be willing to wait longer before making another jump.

At 500 ? Nah.

 

[Strike]

As long as it's reasonably priced and there are good games available at and around launch.

 

[DrDeckard]

Pretty much two thirds of the votes think it will sell as well. That is extremely positive

 

[Deleted member 19767]

I'd say their first few months might actually be pretty close. When you consider launch window shipments and what is rumoured to be a good launch line up - it will move plenty of units aligned with PS4.

However once things normalize, there are too many factors in play to predict what will happen. Seems pretty unlikely they can pull it off again at PS4 levels. However I'm also not particularly convinced that the Switch is going to have any significant impact on the uptake of the next home console generation (it doesn't seem like it so far).
That leaves Microsoft, Google and Apple as the biggest variables.
My gut feel is that Xcloud/Stadia/streaming platforms will find an audience, but have a reasonably minor impact on the console market - at least for the next few years.

So that leaves the Xbox.
It's obvious Microsoft are going into the next generation with a much better focus than this generation.
However I'm also conscious that the 360 was their most successful console so far. They carried that momentum into the XB1. We can all agree they stuffed the launch with an incredible backfire. However the XB1 still managed to outsell the 360 launch aligned over a long period.

I have no idea how the broader market feel about the Xbox brand and franchises at the moment. It seems to have improved on this forum, but it remains to be seen whether the promise of more console horsepower or the next Halo entry can drive more interest than previous generations.
Assuming it's similar to the 360/XB1 numbers, Sony might have a shot at pulling big numbers again.

Overall it sounds like it will be more difficult this time around, particularly when you consider the economy in many major markets. They also won't have the luxury of MS basically shooting themselves in the foot.

 

[CloseTalker]

No. It'll be strong, but MS won't fuck up to the same degree. MS will put at least a bit of a dent in Sony's sales, even if it might not overtake them completely

 

[Deleted member 2145]

It's not even that lopsided in US lol. They are like 3 million behind. It's the rest of the world where the gap is freaking huge. Why do people forget his?

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you're assuming that I forgot and that I wasn't speaking directly to that

go back to the 360 gen and look at North American sales then compare to the Xbox One/PS4 split then you'll be on the right track

 

[HellofaMouse]

it depends on the launch line-up. but the ps4 launch was NOT a high bar, so i think ps5 is at least gonna match it

 

[get2sammyb]

No because I think it will cost more and I think the appetite for new consoles is slightly different right now.

 

[Memento]

It will be more sucessfull. They will probably have some pretty big first party heavy hitters for launch, like Death Stranding and maybe Ghost of Tsushima.

 

[Mass Effect]

Probably. At the end of the day, Sony still has worldwide brand appeal while Microsoft does not. Combine that with it being easier than ever to transition to the new generation because of backwards compatibility and I think retention will be strong. I can easily see way less people moving across ecosystems this time.

people were saying this exact same thing when PS4 launched...

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... and it was true. Mid-range CPUs from years before (2010, 2011) were still outperforming the Jaguars at launch. An i5-2500 runs circles around a PS4/Xbone.

 

[Asuka3+1]

It depends. cause IMO PS4 launch was strong not for what it did good, but cause Microsoft did everything wrong.

whether or not PS5 does as well as PS4 is more about whether or not Xbox puts up a fight. Specs wise, Price, Services.

so far the only thing I believe Xbox has over PS5 will be Xplay (until Sony officially change stances)

 

[Maxim726x]

It will sell well.... Will definitely be better than whatever MS releases.

But won't do PS4 numbers. I agree with many here, that was a perfect storm of sorts.

UNLESS it sells at 399. That would be a great price point and would move a lot of consoles.

 

[Gundam]

The PS4 lineup was pretty lackluster for the first two years. I expect the PS5 lineup to pretty pretty killer in comparison.

It will sell more, I think.

 

[butman]

not by anywhere near as much as the PS4's was outdated compared to what was out there in 2013 PCs.

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And I still can't find better looking games than Uncharted 4, Horizon, God of War and Spider-Man on PC.

 

[Asuka3+1]

The PS4 lineup was pretty lackluster for the first two years

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If memory dont fails me, this is a trend, Sony depends a lot on early life PS1-PS2-PS3-PS4 on 3rd Party while their in house gets the heavy hitters out

 

[Tesser]

Depends on the services offered as well as (more importantly) the games available at launch...though I predict they'll rely heavily on third party stuff in the first twelve/eighteen months again. Hard to say when we know neither; we also have to consider what Microsoft have planned as well as when their new console launches. I still think Sony/PlayStation are still in a figurative net positive perception going into PS5 if one were to weigh up their success against recent annoyances: cross-play, PS Plus' decreased worth, censorship of particular Japanese games. I don't think it will be significantly more than the PS4 at launch, if at all.