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Do you think games would be better under communism?
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"Better" is subjective. Games would be different because they would no longer be built around market considerations. I don't really care whether that means some genres or blockbuster type games die. All I care about is that the workers control the means of production.
As a dedicated communist and marxist-leninist, I just know I'm gonna have to end up ignoring this thread out of frustration.
Err lol what, you really think that those things have nothing to do with capitalism?
Err lol what, you really think that those things have nothing to do with capitalism?
Well, taking a look at communist nations and how they treated their artists, it doesn't strike me with much confidence that gaming as an art form would be better of compared to how it is today.
I think labour conditions would be better under a more purely realised version of communism. If games get worse because of that then that's a minor trade off
You think 3D modeling, animating, and programming are going to get faster and easier under redistributed wealth?
The current only real communist state left (NK) has no video game scene.
The scene under the ussr was made of imported/cloned hardware (atari, 8bit microcomp, pc) and pirated games from the west (tetris is an exception). official "games" were supposed to have a purpose, like military training or propaganda.
so, at least according to history, no.
The scene under the ussr was made of imported/cloned hardware (atari, 8bit microcomp, pc) and pirated games from the west (tetris is an exception). official "games" were supposed to have a purpose, like military training or propaganda.
so, at least according to history, no.
Yeah, cos there are no incredibily militaristic, pro-American/Western video games at all at the moment.
Errrr where did I say that?
Under communism hard working entrepreneurs like Randy Pitchford and Tim Sweeney wouldn't be paid for all their hard work in making games like Borderlands and Fortnite successful.
Well, we have never seen a communist government and I don't think you know what communism even means.
I was in Vegas and my Uber driver lived in a communist country before America. She told me you do not want to be under communist rule.
shareholders lead to bad decisions for gamers as conumers (lootboxes, microtransaction spam, etc.), but the capital they provide probably wouldn't be replicated under communism, and that's assuming absolutely ideal communism, not the murderous regimes we've seen in history
Capitalism is not problem within games industry nor any other industry. But because most big publishers are publicly traded companies it creates market where every year profits must grow. It is awful to watch Valve's downfall when those Chinese conglomerates breath on their neck.
What?
Have you seen the complete lack of color in the old Eastern Bloc? Communism is a killer of creativity, expression, and talent.
This isn't up for argument. It's a fact. It's what happened.
Have you seen the complete lack of color in the old Eastern Bloc? Communism is a killer of creativity, expression, and talent.
This isn't up for argument. It's a fact. It's what happened.
I'll think you would have to define communism. If you would presume that we are just talking about economic and not a society based on the Soviet unions communism (censure and so on) it would probably look like the indi scene but with some bigger project's.
I'm a democratic socialst (Sweden) but I really don't think that gaming would be better in a world that wasn't driven by profit. We would have more artful and interesting games bur would still be in the snes era.
I'm a democratic socialst (Sweden) but I really don't think that gaming would be better in a world that wasn't driven by profit. We would have more artful and interesting games bur would still be in the snes era.
Well yeah there's loads. The military also sponsor stuff. Don't gun manufacturers want their brands in game sas well?
What's the incentive in a communist structure for art? The government is controlling the funding. So why would they fund something critical of them or something without a beneficial message to the state?
I have friends who live in Cuba and friends who lived in the former GDR and they certainly prefer it to capitalism.
The state funds art in absolutely loads of countries. Just look at theatre in Germany. Every city has a state funded theatre with permanent ensembles fully funded solely by the state. Germany also has the best theatre in the western world, the most progressive, avant garde, and challenging.
nah this would still involve people playing the game (aka gamers) and frankly thats the biggest problem facing the industry. once we find a way to get rid of these people then and only then can the video game industry truely flourish.
A REAL communist government is not happening and will never happen, it's too utopistic to think that a communist government will work in today's society.
And today's example of communism is garbage.
You seemingly implied that the manpower and time inherent to 3D game development are linked to capitalism someway. I think you're arguing in good faith though and I'd appreciate a clarification.
I think you're arguing in bad faith so I'm not gonna engage.
"It is awful to watch American capitalism lose out to Chinese capitalism."
You may as well just blatantly state how much you love American imperialism. If people think that a white America built on the wealth of the slave trade should control the world economy I wish they'd just actually state it, instead of hiding behind dogwhistle yellow peril crap.
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