*looks at calendar* He has been back for 15 years? WTF?!At this point Jason Todd has been back from the dead almost as long as he was dead for.
They rotate villains in and out, Riddler was part of it too for some time.
The only "villain" that should be allowed in the bat family is a cat.*looks at calendar* He has been back for 15 years? WTF?!
I still don't like it, deaths mean so little in comic books that I really appreciate when one sticks.
They rotate villains in and out, Riddler was part of it too for some time.
*looks at calendar* He has been back for 15 years? WTF?!
I still don't like it, deaths mean so little in comic books that I really appreciate when one sticks.
It's just too much people, every new writer wants to go on and insert their new shitty hip batfriend in what is a quite good story and afterward they are unused cos the new writer has no ideas for that.
Some like Jason, Batwoman and nightwing have managed to stand out, but Duke, Spoiler, Cass are just good in their introduction stories.
I love the bat family. Maybe one day we can get this in the movies. And maybe more acknowledgement for Bruce's daughters too.
You're right. They gotta show at least 30 minutes of each Bat movie on a falling pearl necklace, a Wilhelm scream, and a smoking barrel. It's Hollywood law. (I'm not even being all that sarcastic.)I don't know how you can get this in movies unless you both skip the origin story and the Justice League. There's just not enough time to focus on establishing who Batman is, or who he is in terms of a cinematic universe, to go into multiple sidekicks and guest characters. It's perfect for a series, though. Like if they expanded Titans into a bat family spinoff (and got completely new writers) I'd be down with that.
I feel that most the people who don't like the Bat-family haven't been exposed to all the great depictions in the comics. I highly recommend James Tynion IV's run of Detective Comics to show how wonderful the dynamic is.
People who don't even like Batman having a Robin don't really understand Batman as a character, in my opinion.
Thank you. I feel very similarly on these points.Bruce being smart enough to pull in people around him, gradually fixing his own trauma by helping other people with theirs is genius. Solo Batman is comedy because it screams "take superheroes seriously". No. They're wearing costumes and "fighting crime", which we should all know isn't how crime works by now.
You know me too well.
I wouldn't give a fuck about Batman if he didn't have kids, to be completely honest.
For real. And I think they work best when aimed at a teenage audience. Sure, adults can enjoy it, but I don't need it to be specifically aimed at adults.I don't get the "absurd/silly" comments. They are cape comics. They are all absurd.
The comics are always deaging him so it's hard to keep track.I have a question, little off topic, but do they ever say how old Bruce is supposed to be? The Robins are all adults, except for Damien who's a teen(?), so is Bruce in his 40s? I know, I know, it's comics, but I just wanna know if they've ever addressed it.
The DC editors seem to like him more than Cass at the very least. :(
The DC editors seem to like him more than Cass at the very least. :(
For folks saying that it's too many characters, they were originally spaced out enough that stories only needed to involve a few of them at a time, or in vastly different roles. You can group them in organic ways that don't feel overwhelming. New 52 and Rebirth really just squished everything together in a way that I don't find very satisfying.
Right before New 52, I was hoping for the following:
Gotham Team: Dick (Batman), Babs (Oracle), Steph (Batgirl), and Damian (Robin)
International Team: Bruce (Batman), Cass (Black Bat), Tim (Red Robin)
Jason works well with non-Bat teams, so you could do still do Outlaws. Maybe have Selina be in the International Team, but I'm fine with her being a recurring guest and doing her own thing otherwise. Kate (Batwoman) is also more of her own thing, focusing on more supernatural horror type stuff. Helena B. always seemed more invested in Birds of Prey so that should be her main book.
I don't care about Jean-Paul sorry. :(
I wouldn't give a fuck about Batman if he didn't have kids, to be completely honest.
Reminder that even THE DARK KNIGHT RETURNS, the seminal "serious" Batman story, knew Batman had to have a Robin
I have a question, little off topic, but do they ever say how old Bruce is supposed to be? The Robins are all adults, except for Damien who's a teen(?), so is Bruce in his 40s? I know, I know, it's comics, but I just wanna know if they've ever addressed it.
Some characters just feel unnecessary though.
Can someone tell me what the point of Batwing is?
To be fucking cool? To have black representation? To have a techy Batman? To give the Fox family a closer connection? I dunno, take your pick.