No. Most 3rd party games come to PC and they have to account for HDD. It's the same for Xbox games coming to Xbox One.
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Do you guys think the SSD in PS5/Xbox Series X is a gamechanger?
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No the whole demo shows what the SSD can do because they were streaming a huge amount of HQ assets all the time.
I kind of want to see the faster bandwidth and loading on a traditional turn based JRPG.
Sony should give us a Wild ARMs game that is fast between the overworld and menus or the random battles. I've had my fill of slow transitions, but I also don't want a total shift to Action-RPG hybrid gameplay.
Sony should give us a Wild ARMs game that is fast between the overworld and menus or the random battles. I've had my fill of slow transitions, but I also don't want a total shift to Action-RPG hybrid gameplay.
With both the PS5 and XSX having a SSD I'm hoping they will also become part of the minimum spec requirement on PC in 2-3 years. And by that time XB1 (and PS4) support should also be coming to an end for the vast majority of games.
They'll be working with SSDs too and they'll create things that'll be difficult on mechanical drives.
Perfect first post.
Its funny, because this was a big shift in gaming. And now we are going back to the cartridge benefits but with current and beyond tech. Waaaay more storage vs cartridges. I cant wait.
Not for long. SSDs will soon become a minimum requirement for AAA PC games. Devs aren't going to hobble their games for the sake of the platform with the lowest market share.
I don't understand why some have voted no. The SSDs are probably the most significant jump along with the CPUs. Those claiming that it won't be a gamechanger because there are still platforms with HDD's don't seem to understand that those will simply be left behind after 1 or 2 years. There will be plenty of games from third party devs that will have SSDs as a requirement in their minimum specs.
The point is that 3rd parties who publish on PC will probably continue using HDDs as the bottom line for quite a while, so besides faster loading screens they're not really gonna take advantage of the SSDs in the upcoming consoles until SSDs also become part of the minimum spec requirement on PC. No developer/publisher in their right mind is immediately gonna ditch all PC users who are still using a HDD just because both consoles now have a SSD, that's a transition which will take a couple of years.
I feel like it will be a game changer in term of quality of life. SSDs have been in laptops, phones and PCs for over 10 years now. It makes everything feel instant.
But I also feel that people are getting carried away in that games will be somehow fundamentally different because they are now designed around SSDs. I really never saw a change in any other software or applications so I am extremely skeptical it will result in anything other than amazingly fast save and load times (which is honestly enough for me).
But I also feel that people are getting carried away in that games will be somehow fundamentally different because they are now designed around SSDs. I really never saw a change in any other software or applications so I am extremely skeptical it will result in anything other than amazingly fast save and load times (which is honestly enough for me).
Yea I'm excited about it. The power of the Series X with the speed of the SSD are going to make some insane experiences.
Seeing this, now I dont think open worlds will be as barren as some think. SSDs might allow for more interaction, activity. More dynamic gaming.
Love your enthusiasm, lol. Can always count on you to chime in on the excitement.
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I know, right?
I'm sure they will eventually. But how much of the current PC market uses SSD? I don't know, but I bet it's not a high percentage.
sata 3 ssd would have been a game changer in the console world. microsoft is giving headroom with their drive and sony is being excessive. neither will get fully utilized this generation but it will push the pc market to sata ssd as required which is a needed step for computing and games as a whole.
What is the percentage of exclusives we will see on the PS5 then that will make full use? One ties into the other because most games are multiplat.
I'm actually willing to bet that alot of people that have their PC as their gaming platform of choice have had SSDs for a long time now.
Game changer in the console space? Yeah def. Game changer in the grand scheme? Like going from 2d to polygons? Or even from bad 3d era to great 3d/open world capabilities? Nah
At best you're gonna get faster loading and bigger open worlds imo. A welcome addition, but I think people throw around "game changer" like "goat" these days. Too easily mentioned.
At best you're gonna get faster loading and bigger open worlds imo. A welcome addition, but I think people throw around "game changer" like "goat" these days. Too easily mentioned.
I don't see why they would, because all those games would still need to run on the 2020 consoles and SSDs.
This is a ridiculous thing to say. There's no such thing as too much I/O.
My point is ssds will do more than just speed up load times and third party devs can use the plethora of possibilities presented by the ssd to do things they can't on mechanical drives.
Gamechanger of course (those that think otherwise are either trolling or .....), and we most likely are unware of its many (potential) uses and benefits in game design over traditional HDDs. Gamedevelopers have to redesign their current aproaches to make full use of SSDs and in future even in ways they currently are not fully aware off as the technology, software and their experience with it matures.
Considering the larger player base is on consoles i think people on pc will be required to have ssd to play the latest games
I'd like to see at least one real world implementation first before I declare it a "game changer".
I didn't think so at first because I thought it would just mean faster/no loading screens but from what I read the past two or so months, the affect is and will be much greater than just that, so I'm excited to find see the outcome.
I think it is. When you can literally change how you go about designing your game to me has to be a gamechanger. When you don't have to duplicate assets everywhere just to keep the seek times down and by definition have smaller games or room for more unique assets in your game, thats a gamechanger. Also its not just the specialized SSD in the PS5, its the specialized hardware that works in concert with the SSD that helps remove alot of bottlenecks that wouldn't be solved solely by access speed alone. I'm assuming the engineers at MS probably have something in mind that would reduce or eliminate those same bottlenecks too since they're no slouches in the hardware design dept either.
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If you should have learned anything from this generation then that increased power doesn't equate to more innovative games. Like the only game this generation that actually felt like a technological innovation was the outer world and that came from an indie dev.
I remember a time were every PC, i would say 100% of the market, had a 3.5" disk drive.
And then, 1 year later, you had to buy a cd-rom drive to play games.
I couldn't understand it, 100% of all PCs had a 3.5" disk drive.
Crazy times.
I got my cd-rom drive with the game Wing Commander III: Heart of the Tiger,
damn... that game had movie like cut scenes and detailed cockpit views, and Mark Hamill was in it.
Never have seen something like that on a 3.5" disk.
Really crazy.
I think that was around the time the PS1 and Sega saturn released, they used also cd-roms.
And then, 1 year later, you had to buy a cd-rom drive to play games.
I couldn't understand it, 100% of all PCs had a 3.5" disk drive.
Crazy times.
I got my cd-rom drive with the game Wing Commander III: Heart of the Tiger,
damn... that game had movie like cut scenes and detailed cockpit views, and Mark Hamill was in it.
Never have seen something like that on a 3.5" disk.
Really crazy.
I think that was around the time the PS1 and Sega saturn released, they used also cd-roms.
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How dare anyone bring XSX into a topic about SSD in PS5 and Series X.
OMG, you are too funny. Never change
I think it will have a big impact on game development, but it remains to be seen whether it results in any revolutionary new experiences or simply better looking and faster loading games. I also wonder whether the big speed difference between the PS5 and XSX/average PC SSD will result in any big difference in practice. If the only real world difference is that you get less pop-in on PS5 I would hardly call that game changing, but right now it's definitely more exciting than a few more TFLOP of GPU power.
To be fair any game could do that now (i.e., have a character fly through an environment) it's just the fidelity was cranked up to insane levels in the UE5 demo. I'll forgive people for not thinking a segment like that with minimal interactivity is a game changer.
Nonetheless I voted yes because even the bare minimum of reducing load times to a couple of seconds is a game changer for me personally. Add to that the way it's going to change the way developers can think about game design and remove some annoyances from the dev process and I think it's indisputably a big deal.
Stop with the condescending tone.
It may have been a poor choice of words, but I meant this as a way of saying to not resort to platform wars. The last thing this thread needs is people warring over nonsense.
Yes the SSD is a gamechanger. That's all.
Game changer overall yes, because now games on all 3 major hardware platforms will be able to take advantage of it.
Do I think the ps5 ssd will be some life altering tech that the other 2 platforms simply cannot compete with leaving them feeling a generation behind already, no of course not, y'all let marketing get to you to easily out of confirmation bias. Still excited to see it in action though because it pushes everyone to be better long term. That's the magic of it to me.
Do I think the ps5 ssd will be some life altering tech that the other 2 platforms simply cannot compete with leaving them feeling a generation behind already, no of course not, y'all let marketing get to you to easily out of confirmation bias. Still excited to see it in action though because it pushes everyone to be better long term. That's the magic of it to me.