Your arguments just get worse and worse as you continue to post. What the hell?
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Do you feel that people are losing interest in movies because there are no original ideas left to explore?
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You unlock this door with the key of lack of imagination
Beyond it is a dimension devoid of ideas, lacking substance, and where only 10 movies are released per year.
You are moving through a land where all you see is nothing but princesses and superheroes.
You just crossed over into the Disney Zone
Beyond it is a dimension devoid of ideas, lacking substance, and where only 10 movies are released per year.
You are moving through a land where all you see is nothing but princesses and superheroes.
You just crossed over into the Disney Zone
First of all I don't know what theater you are going to but that is super expensive even by movie theater standards. Second, did you need the candy? Or really any of that to enjoy the theater experience?
No original ideas left to explore?
That's the hottest of hot takes.
There are infinite number of ideas. There are also many, many, MANY original films released either at the cinema or via a streaming platform. It's not all franchise films and huge sequels, but those films do make the most money.
That's the hottest of hot takes.
There are infinite number of ideas. There are also many, many, MANY original films released either at the cinema or via a streaming platform. It's not all franchise films and huge sequels, but those films do make the most money.
Wonder if this exact thread exists on some 90s BBS but the premise is "Well Police Academy 7 failed to excite so im just wondering what new ideas exist? I think everyone just hates the movies"
Most sequels are disappointing. Yes Marvel has had a good run but generally speaking most part 3s/4s/5s are bad of a franchise start to get into the "this sucks" territory especially when there's a fair sized time gap.
CaptSpaulding Is it a religious thing where you can only watch and cite mainstream movies as examples? Also you haven't cited any evidence that people are not interested in movies anymore.
I can see the mentality of not seeing anymore non-Marvel blockbuster films because Marvel themselves are basically monopolizing the experience with their more entertaining movies. Anything else just rings hollow and more than likely just watered down to appease China. As far as no original ideas, there's plenty of new spins on old concepts and morsels of originality sprinkled everywhere on TV and cinema, you just have to make an effort to find it.
I think it's more to do with the rise of TV then anything it is the golden age of television
And cinema losing ground to streaming services
Buuuuuuuut
A) it's weird saying this when blockbusters are breaking records
B) And this is always annoying to say but WATCH MORE MOVIES on Netflix or whatever there's like only 5 mcu movies at most a year there's a hundred interesting movies released each year
And cinema losing ground to streaming services
Buuuuuuuut
A) it's weird saying this when blockbusters are breaking records
B) And this is always annoying to say but WATCH MORE MOVIES on Netflix or whatever there's like only 5 mcu movies at most a year there's a hundred interesting movies released each year
Okay, hear me out: It's a talking dog movie but the dog is a reincarnated cat.
Also, he is voiced Rock "The Dwayne" Johnson
And, get this, it's a little bit raunchy at times
No original ideas, pff
Also, he is voiced Rock "The Dwayne" Johnson
And, get this, it's a little bit raunchy at times
No original ideas, pff
A zombie movie but in the end it turns out that the zombies, not the humans, were the monsters all along
High ticket prices, the rise of home theater equipment of very high quality at affordable prices, very quick turnaround to home video
Lack of good ideas has nothing to do with it. Music has been around a LOT longer than movies and still has lots of new ideas coming through.
Lack of good ideas has nothing to do with it. Music has been around a LOT longer than movies and still has lots of new ideas coming through.
Op, it is a pretty poor discussion standard to just post these qualitative statements without any clarification how you measure them and some proof to back the claim, even for a gaming forum...
I lost interest because everything's a damn superhero movie now. That and ticket prices are insane, and I can never enjoy the cinema anyway because there's always at least one person being a complete arse. Oh and nachos/hotdogs, can't stand the smell and there's always someone that'll stink the place out.
The very premise of OP is just completely wrong.
Big franchise movies completely dominate the theaters. That doesn't mean all smaller movies fail, and all big movies succeed. But, overall, movie theaters are dominated by big movies now more than ever. That's just an economic fact, not an opinion.
Some smaller and medium size movies have always succeeded. But right now, its less than ever. Big movies more than ever dominate. Not that long ago, smaller and medium size movies had a much much bigger presence.
Right now most people who go to movie theaters don't want originality, they want something safe and comfortable. TV is where there is more original and complicated stories.
There is no big movie backlash. Quite the opposite. We've just witnessed the industry change into something where big Franchise movies have almost killed off adult dramas, raunchy comedies, star vehicles and thrillers.
Big franchise movies completely dominate the theaters. That doesn't mean all smaller movies fail, and all big movies succeed. But, overall, movie theaters are dominated by big movies now more than ever. That's just an economic fact, not an opinion.
Some smaller and medium size movies have always succeeded. But right now, its less than ever. Big movies more than ever dominate. Not that long ago, smaller and medium size movies had a much much bigger presence.
Right now most people who go to movie theaters don't want originality, they want something safe and comfortable. TV is where there is more original and complicated stories.
There is no big movie backlash. Quite the opposite. We've just witnessed the industry change into something where big Franchise movies have almost killed off adult dramas, raunchy comedies, star vehicles and thrillers.
Hollywood was a remake machine too in the 1930s and 1940s, and never since they have reached the box office numbers they were doing before Television came out.
If movies are losing audiences today it is because something else is grabbing them. Not because people don't want to see adaptations or remakes, especially since they happen to make more money than anything else.
And still the topics to explore are very vast. Film sci-fi has just scratched the surface of themes and settings of sci-fi literature. You could have a new Event Horizon every month just stealing from the most popular books out there.
If movies are losing audiences today it is because something else is grabbing them. Not because people don't want to see adaptations or remakes, especially since they happen to make more money than anything else.
And still the topics to explore are very vast. Film sci-fi has just scratched the surface of themes and settings of sci-fi literature. You could have a new Event Horizon every month just stealing from the most popular books out there.
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There have always been indy hits and blockbuster failures. People will always go to see the next big movie event. I think movies are just adjusting to being a bit less culturally important than before, overall.
TV is better now and gaming obviously cuts into peoples attention. And further to that, I think talent is spread across all those industries now, as opposed to concentrated in the movie industry. But I think all that might change short to medium term is a slight further migration from theatres to the home. No one is losing interest.
TV is better now and gaming obviously cuts into peoples attention. And further to that, I think talent is spread across all those industries now, as opposed to concentrated in the movie industry. But I think all that might change short to medium term is a slight further migration from theatres to the home. No one is losing interest.
Yeah, I just watched THE LIGHTHOUSE yesterday.
There is plenty and probably more then ever original stuff out there.
Our example of "originality" is a direct sequel to a 35-year-old book adaptation, whose "new" ideas were largely centered around love with an AI - a topic that been beaten to death in recent sci-fi movies like Her or Ex Machina.
But we are getting a high budget Dune from the same director. People appreciate the art and still give opportunities.
And never say never about seeing anything in the Blade Runner universe again. Hell, it took how many decades to see a sequel?
The downtrodden attitude some people around here have gets really old after a bit.
There are tons of original ideas to explore. Maybe the ones that are borne from the minds of Cis White Men might be tapped out but there are tons of untold stories in a plethora of communities.
As a Black Man I don't understand how no one has produced an HBO style show set in Africa, either Mansa Musa, Egypt, Shaka Zulu.
Look what happened when Ryan Coogler got some bandwith. Look at what happened when someone gave Jordan Peele a shot.
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TDK was new in the sense that it wasn't really a superhero movie but a realistic, dark crime drama with superheroes. But even the whole "dark" superhero theme feels tired and overused now.
Maybe that's the problem? Whenever a new, successful formula/idea comes out, it gets copied to death and oversaturated, basically killing the formula. For example the whole wire-fu craze of the early 2000s. And the current craze seems to be remaking everything that was animated into live action, and vice-versa. (Dumbo, Spider-verse, etc) Actually I feel that the most creative studio right now is Pixar, they are masters at taking a very traditional type of story and turn it into something we don't expect. However even their last 2 movies have become derivative (but still entertaining).
Nobody went to see Event Horizon in theaters and The Dark Knight is both a direct franchise sequel and the fifth movie featuring one of the most famous comic book characters ever.
I think your understanding is just so, so wrong. How is Into the Spider-verse remaking something that was live action into something animated?
Parasite is an extremely rich, original film. One of the most layered of the decade. There's as much theme play and well written characters in there as books.
I'm just going to add that new ideas are overrated anyways and I'll always take a well executed spin on a well trodden premise or theme over a unique idea that's executed poorly any day of the week
-ticket prices are insane relative to streaming something at home
-home theatre set ups are a lot closer to a theatre level experience than they were even ten years ago
-there is so little competition amongst big studios now that there's no incentive to take risks so we just get endless franchises and remakes
-there's no avenue of funding for new directors that might create original blockbusters (a la Spielberg or Lucas) or critically acclaimed mid and low budget stuff (a la the coens, Scorsese, even Tarantino)
Like everything, it comes back to capitalism. Never blame a lack of human creativity when capitalism's such a better scape goat.
The fact that you call joker risky or less mainstream is the most fucking depressing thing I've ever heard.
-home theatre set ups are a lot closer to a theatre level experience than they were even ten years ago
-there is so little competition amongst big studios now that there's no incentive to take risks so we just get endless franchises and remakes
-there's no avenue of funding for new directors that might create original blockbusters (a la Spielberg or Lucas) or critically acclaimed mid and low budget stuff (a la the coens, Scorsese, even Tarantino)
Like everything, it comes back to capitalism. Never blame a lack of human creativity when capitalism's such a better scape goat.
The fact that you call joker risky or less mainstream is the most fucking depressing thing I've ever heard.
Someone should do a Pixar-inspired take on the various colonies of bacteria that coexist on a fresh pile of dung
This thread seems weird in a year where we had the highest number of movies breaking 1 billion at the BO and one of them being the all time BO movie. Audiences are fine with big blockbuster movies if the hook is there. Also not sure why Joker is propped up as original when its using a well known IP combined with a story formula and style that has worked in the past (like Taxi Driver and Kings of Comedy).
If anything it's the smaller movies at theaters that are struggling due to the emergence of digital. People go for the tentpole movies but less so for the artsy movies unless they are headlined by a big name director like Tarantino, Scorcese, Nolan.
If anything it's the smaller movies at theaters that are struggling due to the emergence of digital. People go for the tentpole movies but less so for the artsy movies unless they are headlined by a big name director like Tarantino, Scorcese, Nolan.
I saw Parasite and The Lighthouse in just the past month in theaters. No way we're even close to running out of stuff.
Fuck. You got me. Midsommar and Us came out this year. Do those count?
Okay... this may be cheating by going all the way back to last year, but holy shit. Burning. What a damn film. Based in part on the Murakami short story, though, so totally unoriginal!
It's more that going to the cinema is an event. You want to be wowed and communally experience something and certain genres of films just aren't putting enough butts in seats. Film is richer than ever but I think we need to get Hollywood level production values in everything on Netflix and Streaming services. I love romcoms damnit...but I'd rather watch Last Christmas on Netflix without some of the baggage the needs to sell tickets brings.
I just watched Jojo Rabbit where a child in Nazi Germany has manifested their loneliness in the form of an imaginary friend with the face of Adolf Hitler.
Y'know, real old-hat shit.
Exactly. And some Blockbusters are not failing at all and the biggest ones are sequels, prequels, remakes and franchises. Audiences aren't hungry for originality. I wish they were hungrier and these big 20 movie franchises would die. Even get out is a mild success compared to these bohemoths and joker is different (relatively) but it's still based on an old character and fits in a superhero movie universe.
Yup every time I think people will get sick of remakes they keep buying the tickets. Don't understand why we needed a lion king remake at all. The old one has aged extremely well.