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Do you enjoy optional level grinding?
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Awesome, thanks! That will help me clear it a bit quickerThere's a pep ability Halellujah that adds an XP Multiplier to the fight and a pep ability called Electro Light that summons ultra rare metal slimes that give huge XP, then you just need those items that give you instant pep (i forgot what they are called), so you can do that repeatedly and a character with a weapon/skill that can kill them, gives you about 5-10 levels per fight
when Tactics Ogre is constantly teasing me with the new abilities I could get, if I level up just a biiiit more, what am I supposed to do? Not grind?
I absolutely love grinding for my own sake, even to the detriment of the game itself. I just can't stop myself. I need to be able to obliterate folk. It often ruins the natural difficulty of the game but that is something I have to deal with.
Hoagies and grinders
Hoagies and grinders
Navy Beans
Navy Beans
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Anyway, yes. I grind.
Hoagies and grinders
Navy Beans
Navy Beans
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Anyway, yes. I grind.
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Nope, kinda bums me out the leveling systems and level gating is so trendy as it is. It feels extremely gamey and arbitrary.
I would love it if RPG's could come up with more skillful and engaging ideas to overcome obstacles, instead of me dumping tons of ammo in a level 85 rat which makes no sense in the fiction.
I would love it if RPG's could come up with more skillful and engaging ideas to overcome obstacles, instead of me dumping tons of ammo in a level 85 rat which makes no sense in the fiction.
Stick on some music or a podcast and I'm good for an hour or two of repetition. I like to be a bit overleveled in RPGs, so I'll always wander around outside a new town for a bit before chugging on to the next story event. I'm not against an alternative though.
Yes, if given the choice and progress is not limited
A startling amount of people were defending AC Odyssey's system of lock you out of story missions to force you to play the game their way and look right past the exp in the Micro-transaction store and that ain't it chief.
A startling amount of people were defending AC Odyssey's system of lock you out of story missions to force you to play the game their way and look right past the exp in the Micro-transaction store and that ain't it chief.
depends on the game
i dont like to overlevel in rpgs but stuff like borderlands is more about the loot than the enemies, so why not
nobody defends the exp mtx, just contest this stupid notion that you are OBLIGATED to buy them or god forbid actually engage with some of the side content in a game (some of them being contracts that you dont even need to do anything if the idea of playing a game in your game is so abhorrent) instead of zipping through main quest after main quest and then getting upset levels are getting higher.
i dont like to overlevel in rpgs but stuff like borderlands is more about the loot than the enemies, so why not
nobody defends the exp mtx, just contest this stupid notion that you are OBLIGATED to buy them or god forbid actually engage with some of the side content in a game (some of them being contracts that you dont even need to do anything if the idea of playing a game in your game is so abhorrent) instead of zipping through main quest after main quest and then getting upset levels are getting higher.
But some people like to do the side content after the main story. They are locking people from doing what they want with the game they purchased. FFVIIR with all its "ladder, an slide through this wall padding" at least let you leave some stuff for a second run in addition to partition content for that second run as well.
Stop telling me how to play games, you and Ubisoft both don't seem to get that people play things differently.
You are not being locked out of anything. You can still do the stuff, enemies will just be stronger cause you're not leveled enough. And contracts are not "side content", theyre randomly generated checkmarks you can pick up at any time during your game (including after the main story) and give xp for doing menial things you can do during the main quest anyway like killing x athenians or sinking y ships, so you could still just do main quests and level up faster at the same time.
"Stop telling me a super easy and painless fix to this huge problem i have with the game! i want to be outraged!"
If it's a story driven rpg with fixed characters, no. If anything, i enjoy when your experience is limited to balance the battles better, like in Chrono Cross or FFXIII.
Recently i enjoyed grind in Digimon Cyber Sleuth just to make my mons evolving and devolving dozens of times to get cooler forms. It's just addicting to see the huge exp values when you have a lot of exp+ equips and two Platinum Numemon in the active party for the last dungeon.
Recently i enjoyed grind in Digimon Cyber Sleuth just to make my mons evolving and devolving dozens of times to get cooler forms. It's just addicting to see the huge exp values when you have a lot of exp+ equips and two Platinum Numemon in the active party for the last dungeon.
Depends on the game. I enjoyed AC Origins, but I was not doing that grind up to level 40 just to see the deserts in the middle of the map. It's a shame because there could be some good content but no. I don't get why massive areas of the game like that would require serious grinding, when they could just alter the recommended level to whatever level you finish the game at.
I mean FFVIIR shouldn't be taking you 5 hours. You can do it in 1, max.
I do... if what I do counts.
That is, I don't consciously 'choose' to grind - but my natural playstyle is slow and methodical, and often includes setting smaller sidegoals (explore every nook and cranny, earn enough gold for the next store purchase, find crafting materials, that sort of thing) over carrying out whatever's required for straight progression; I mentioned when I was playing Dishonored that I liked to have the objective marker on to give me some indication about where not to go.
The process of doing that does lead me towards being 'naturally grindy'. Not forced, and not intentional as such, but a side-effect of the other things I do.
(This does occasionally have negative side-effects of being too powerful at times; in FFXII I had basically completed the entire license board before I was halfway through the game!)
That is, I don't consciously 'choose' to grind - but my natural playstyle is slow and methodical, and often includes setting smaller sidegoals (explore every nook and cranny, earn enough gold for the next store purchase, find crafting materials, that sort of thing) over carrying out whatever's required for straight progression; I mentioned when I was playing Dishonored that I liked to have the objective marker on to give me some indication about where not to go.
The process of doing that does lead me towards being 'naturally grindy'. Not forced, and not intentional as such, but a side-effect of the other things I do.
(This does occasionally have negative side-effects of being too powerful at times; in FFXII I had basically completed the entire license board before I was halfway through the game!)
I have been doing it voluntarily since Final Fantasy I where I would refuse to leave a town until I bought all upgraded weapons/armor/magic.
It actually bothers me that I force myself to do it in modern games like Sekiro where it actually saps the fun out of the game a little.
It actually bothers me that I force myself to do it in modern games like Sekiro where it actually saps the fun out of the game a little.
Depends on whether I see that grinding as a worthwhile use of time vs. reward. Dragon Quest does a good job with the various types of metal slimes, and they can usually be found with regularity in specific spots. That kind of grinding is fun, because they appear frequently, but escape frequently too if you don't get your all-or-nothing hits in before they leave. The rewards can have you going up several levels from just a few minutes of effort.
On the flipside, I didn't like it in Octopath Traveler, since even basic field battles required a level of attention and time from me that didn't seem to make up for the reward, even though the battle system in and of itself was pretty fun. But when it comes to optional grinding specifically, I want minimal effort to maximum reward. Like Blissey Bases in Pokemon ORAS, or using the Hoimi Table in Dragon Quest 9.
On the flipside, I didn't like it in Octopath Traveler, since even basic field battles required a level of attention and time from me that didn't seem to make up for the reward, even though the battle system in and of itself was pretty fun. But when it comes to optional grinding specifically, I want minimal effort to maximum reward. Like Blissey Bases in Pokemon ORAS, or using the Hoimi Table in Dragon Quest 9.
Been playing Sekiro and it's fun to grind a little and get some goodies. The game kicks your ass and you can't necessarily over level so I don't mind doing it. Especially when I'm exhausted from a difficult section and want to have some mindless fun
If it wasn't for the need to grind for blood vials in Bloodborne my first time through, I wouldn't have discovered a hidden path. Sometimes grinding can lead to exploration, new discoveries, and just getting better with the mechanics of the game.
If the combat is fun and there's actually a decent way to grind then yeah. I don't mind exploiting enemies or having a grind load out that increases my exp to max out my levels. It's part of the game. I do hate grinding when I feel like the base encounters aren't enough yet they don't really have an area filled with high ranking monsters that I can take advantage of and grind out.
Octopath is an example, it's hard to grind there past 50-60, which is a shame because the boost system is fun.
Octopath is an example, it's hard to grind there past 50-60, which is a shame because the boost system is fun.
I like the option to spend out a little time grinding out a few levels or skills if I'm having trouble with a particular boss or area.
Yeah, one of the first things I'll do in a new souls game is park at an early bonfire and grind a few levels
Imagine my dismay when playing Dark Souls 2 and the enemies just stopped showing up
Imagine my dismay when playing Dark Souls 2 and the enemies just stopped showing up
Teach me, please. What's the trick?
EDIT: Nevermind, saw your later post!
