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Do you consider any game from the Assassin's Creed franchise to be a masterpiece?
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think all of them are pretty flawed. but I still enjoyed most of them. I think there were games like Unity and all Ezio spin off games were pretty bad. The main numbered ones are pretty good. Syndicate, Origins, and Odyssey are ok as well. origins being the weakest one out of the three.
Darby McDevitt, right? His work on Black Flag is legitimately some of the best writing I've encountered in an AAA game.
I've been watching The Last Kingdom and enjoying it so that team taking on that setting is very exciting. May have to get Valhalla at launch.
Great post, summarized my experience with the series 100% - at least, out of the games I played and what I feel about others that I haven't.
Black Flags and Origins are top tier open world games IMO. I haven't played 2 since its release but I remember loving that one as well.
Black flag is the closest, but I wouldn't call it a masterpiece. Brotherhood is the next closest.
Everything else has fatal flaws even when they're largely good; from boring missions, to bad storytelling, to asshole characters.
Everything else has fatal flaws even when they're largely good; from boring missions, to bad storytelling, to asshole characters.
So I finally played 2 last week, and it's definitely a solid open world game. More compelling than most of the genre for me, but I just started 4 and immediately I'm retroactively soured on so many aspects of 2. The environments are gray and dull, the Italian accents are ridiculous, character motivations aren't interesting, etc. IV starts with a little Tom Ripley action and so far has had no emphasis on the present day stuff, and the tropical locales are great for virtual tourism in quarantine times. I'm really excited about it, even though I don't care about boats.
I did really like beating up Pope Borgia though. Is there a game with a Jewish or Romani assassin in occupied Poland yet? Because it seems like beating up Hitler and Goebbels et al could really elevate the series to another level.
I did really like beating up Pope Borgia though. Is there a game with a Jewish or Romani assassin in occupied Poland yet? Because it seems like beating up Hitler and Goebbels et al could really elevate the series to another level.
If you extended the question to all Ubisoft games, how far back would you have to go to get a relative majority to call one of their games a masterpiece?
They really don't seem to produce games on that level.
They really don't seem to produce games on that level.
AC2 is on of the best games of last generation. I know a lot of people have become super cynical about Ubisoft games over the years, but everyone needs to remember that 2 released BEFORE the "Ubisoft open-world template" was really a thing. And 2 was such a massive improvement over 1, it's ridiculous.
Entries like Origins and Odyssey are good, but they definitely suffer from the open world bloat that many Ubisoft games are known for now.
Entries like Origins and Odyssey are good, but they definitely suffer from the open world bloat that many Ubisoft games are known for now.
Ezio Trilogy is 1 big masterpiece and one of the best/most-interesting stories ever told in fiction. So sad they ruined it.
Chaos Theory? Sands of Time no question. PoP '08 was divisive but the people who liked it (myself included) really liked it.
Ooh, Siege actually might qualify.
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2 was amazing and left an enormous legacy. Odyssey perhaps less so, if only because of the bloat. But it's one of my personal GotGs, so for me it counts.
Prince of Persia: The Sands of Time (2003) perhaps. If not Assassin's Creed 2.
AC2 was very good. Not a masterpiece but very good. That was my fave.
Black Flag was not bad. I stopped playing then after that though.
Black Flag was not bad. I stopped playing then after that though.
I've been playing this series since the beginning and no, not one of them I'd consider a masterpiece. AC2 is probably the closest and it still ain't there.
But "masterpiece" is a strong term and i don't use it lightly. There's a difference between something i really really like, and outright masterpiece
But "masterpiece" is a strong term and i don't use it lightly. There's a difference between something i really really like, and outright masterpiece
Agreed. Especially Unity. Apart from the broken firecrackers.
They are solid games but I would not describe any as an masterpiece.
AC2 would be up there hadn't my nostalgia been shattered a year back when I played it again.
AC2 would be up there hadn't my nostalgia been shattered a year back when I played it again.
Masterpiece is a very strong word and extremely hard to attain for me. AC2, Brotherhood and Black Flag are all truly excellent games though, some of my all time favourites. Revelations, Unity and Syndicate are all really great games that I remember fondly as well.
I hate the new direction of the series, Origins was still great but very flawed as an AC game and then Odyssey just ran away with everything I didn't like about Origins.
I hate the new direction of the series, Origins was still great but very flawed as an AC game and then Odyssey just ran away with everything I didn't like about Origins.
I dont know if I'd go so far as to use the term "masterpiece" but Black Flag, Origins and Odyssey are all outstanding games
2 and Brotherhood are legit masterpieces.
Black Flag, Odyssey, and Revelations (IMO) are in the "almost-masterpiece" tier.
Black Flag, Odyssey, and Revelations (IMO) are in the "almost-masterpiece" tier.
From a gameplay and story standpoint, I would say no.
But I think their open worlds when viewed just as sandboxes are all masterpieces. The art direction and level of detail poured into each and every one is breath-taking.
But I think their open worlds when viewed just as sandboxes are all masterpieces. The art direction and level of detail poured into each and every one is breath-taking.
Man, reading this thread just makes me (re)realize how massively under-appreciated Revelations is.