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Do you believe the in-game fidelity of The Witcher 4 will be similar to that of TW3's OP cinematic?
- Thread starter halcali
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Why? There's so much money to be made with it considering the popularity of both the video games and the series...
The Hellblade 2 trailer looked better but that was supposedly BS, so they'll probably not look like that. Probably.
Is it serious that there are still people who claim that Toy Story looks better than current games?
I doubt next gen can looks as good as those CGIs in gameplay,but we never know how a next gen game can look until we are playing.
No, of course not. Do people asking these questions even know what it takes to render one frame at that quality (ignoring compositing).
I find it rather remarkable for every upcoming gen, we always have the trend of folks that basically say the equivalent to "next gen will look better but not that much better than last gen" and then towards the end of a gen we get the discussion of "How can we possibly get graphics better than current gen" and it's like clockwork every single time with next gen especially mid to late almost always look substantially better than anything previous gen offered.
I typically find the case of CGI / FMV for a 1:1 in-game engine comparison the gap gets smaller and smaller over time. I mean most engine / in-game visuals on the PS3 surpassed anything over any FMV on the PSX in terms of character modeling, lighting and geometry and using the best examples would be Tekken 3 and FF9.
Most PS2 FMV cinematics were feasible on the PS4 / XB1 with in-game visuals, again factoring improvements in geometry and lighting.
It seems every other generation seems to be the case for CGI / FMV to be feasible in-game. So basically CGI on the PS4 / XBO (like The Witcher 3 for instance) probably won't be a normalcy for in-game in engine graphics until PS6, as the been the case in the past.
I typically find the case of CGI / FMV for a 1:1 in-game engine comparison the gap gets smaller and smaller over time. I mean most engine / in-game visuals on the PS3 surpassed anything over any FMV on the PSX in terms of character modeling, lighting and geometry and using the best examples would be Tekken 3 and FF9.
Most PS2 FMV cinematics were feasible on the PS4 / XB1 with in-game visuals, again factoring improvements in geometry and lighting.
It seems every other generation seems to be the case for CGI / FMV to be feasible in-game. So basically CGI on the PS4 / XBO (like The Witcher 3 for instance) probably won't be a normalcy for in-game in engine graphics until PS6, as the been the case in the past.
Lol. Compare console TW3 with every aspect of the Hellblade 2 trailer... Gigantic leap in every facet of rendering.
Lol, i even don't think this will possible yet you are asking CGI quality.
I mean dynamic global illumination -especially- in a big open world is no joke.
I mean dynamic global illumination -especially- in a big open world is no joke.
I know that there are areas where games still don't come close to TS1, but in terms of apparent visual fidelity, we are we past that point. Yes, Sid probably has more actual hairs on his haed than all game character ever combines, but if you tell me that you think he looks better than Lara Croft in Shadow of the Tomb Raider, or Connor from Detroit, I don't believe you.
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No we won't. CDPR said they can't call it The Witcher 4 because the first 3 games were a trilogy and Geralts story ended. The next game will be about Ciri.
Modern AAA games look way fucking better than Toy Story in most aspects.
Of course not. I know yall are high on that pre-console gen hype, but you're only setting yourselves up for disappointment.
What some fans wish for.
I would prefer someone like Meve over very OP Ciri.
CDPR CEO: "The first three 'Witchers' were by definition a trilogy, so we simply could not name the next game 'The Witcher 4'. This does not mean, of course, that we will leave the world of The Witcher."
Nah, I'm good with predicting the gameplay of Hellblade 2 will look nowhere near as good as the trailer.
I meant the ciri part. That's just a group of fans who wish for it to be true, they haven't given any plans besides saying that Witcher 3 concludes Geralts story. It could mean multiple things, including a brand new group of characters or even something aching to make your own character. Or yes even Ciri.
Yes and mostly like this since it looks better and even real in some scenes like around 1:14
But I don't know if CDPOJEKTRED could reach such quality in their next game: they really didn't make a great looking CGI with Cyberpunk 2077 CGI trailer with Keanu Reeves (bad hair, bad cloth physics, bad eye shader and skin shader etc...) and Hellblade 2 trailer is even better than that Cyberpunk 2077 trailer. Digic Picyures does all the amazing CGIs for games.
I am sure other companies like ND will reach such quality and even exceed it at some point.
But I don't know if CDPOJEKTRED could reach such quality in their next game: they really didn't make a great looking CGI with Cyberpunk 2077 CGI trailer with Keanu Reeves (bad hair, bad cloth physics, bad eye shader and skin shader etc...) and Hellblade 2 trailer is even better than that Cyberpunk 2077 trailer. Digic Picyures does all the amazing CGIs for games.
I am sure other companies like ND will reach such quality and even exceed it at some point.
None of the CGI's released by CDP have been made in-house. They order them from outside studios. Mostly Polish ones afaik.
Also I thought Hellblade 2 stuff was in-engine, not CGI?
Ok, but I don't think that Cyberpunk 2077 CGI trailer was made by Digic Pictures, That looked so damn behind their capabilities.
Digic Pictures do almost every CGI traielrs for all games even FFXV while S-E are perfectly capable of doing their own CGIs.
Yes Hellblade 2 was not CGI and it looks better than the Cyberpunk 2077 trailer in many aspects. That is why next-gen is very promising.
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Same time trailers with "In-Engine" tags mean mostly bullshit trailers, basically wishful targets in most cases. CGI of this and next-gen more or less.
I do take it over CGI used as "This is the game" marketing, but it's beyond what end product will be.
Hellblade 2 in-engine will be a thing next-gen some years in likely, but this year? #doubt
Not this year that we will get such graphics for next-gen and especially not all devs will be able or set their goals to chase such quality. Nevertheless the hardware is perfectly capable of running such graphics and there is literally no aspect that they can't achieve now and some devs will push forward such goals and reach them and even surpass them. Just you wait and you will see.
Cyberpunk CGI trailer was made by Goodbye Kansas Studios
love the way the sky looks in this.
So far most if not all Gens have brought considerable jumps in visuals with them and it shouldn't be different this time around. Last-gen also managed to bring HD resolution and better graphics with it. For me personally nothing needs to run in actual 4K, sure it is better than 1080P but this already looks sharp to me to be honest.
So far most if not all Gens have brought considerable jumps in visuals with them and it shouldn't be different this time around. Last-gen also managed to bring HD resolution and better graphics with it. For me personally nothing needs to run in actual 4K, sure it is better than 1080P but this already looks sharp to me to be honest.
lol what
you can get this look ingame pretty easily with mods
THe actual game is not that different from this demo.
The big downgrade was from the "in game" VGX trailer.
Waaaay too optimistic. The second game is obviously the multiplayer expansion for CP2077, which explains the fast turnaround (they can reuse assets).
Witcher 3->CP2077 was 5 years. Expecting CP2077->Witcher 4 to only take 1 year isn't realistic. I'd say it'll be another 4-5 years
That has been discussed to death tho. Sure they did change around some geo and models, but biggest difference came from them swapping to different lightning tech.
Ooh, i didn't know you can make real dynamic global illumination with mod, thank for enlighten me. : ) Also there is no such mod for adding this much quality LOD. I suggest you to learn about global illumination and examine carefully those distance details about how almost perfect and than retail game.
I suggest you the same as i said for rashbeep.
It will be even better than Witcher III cutscenes.
Remember when we thought RE2 1998 FMVs were amazing and we wanted those graphics but what we get even on GameCube was better than the FMVs on PS1.
So yeah, the game play of tomorrow will be much better than the cutscenes of today.
Remember when we thought RE2 1998 FMVs were amazing and we wanted those graphics but what we get even on GameCube was better than the FMVs on PS1.
So yeah, the game play of tomorrow will be much better than the cutscenes of today.
perhaps you should learn what it is first, because at no point did cdpr ever say there was dynamic GI in the game.
from 2013
DSOGaming: One of the key features that was removed from UE4 was Sparse Voxel Octree Global Illumination. Does REDengine 3 support it (or any other forms of Global Illumination) and if not, are there any plans for implementing it?
BT: In some ways Global Illumination is the biggest challenge currently facing graphics programmers. It's quite hard to find a solution that gives feature parity across all our target platforms and we decided that for now we would rather spend our time on other features for providing better-looking lighting and shading. We will definitely return to this topic at some point and I'm sure that we will find a solution that will fit our games, but right now we have other ideas on how to improve the visuals.
seems to be foliage drawing out further in the retail game here, interesting
Not likely, but I am expecting it to impress me more.
Cyberpunk is cross gen, so I dont think that is a good barometer. It is equivalent to Witcher 2, which is still a very nice looking game. Just many games this gen have surpassed it.
Cyberpunk is cross gen, so I dont think that is a good barometer. It is equivalent to Witcher 2, which is still a very nice looking game. Just many games this gen have surpassed it.
They have 2 big teams working on 2 big games at once, and 2 smaller teams working on smaller games (Gwent, Thronebreaker etc). I can see them releasing a new Witcher game at the end of 2021.
No it won't. Have you watched that cinematic? Each console generation we are getting diminishing returns. It won't be that good in a few years.
They are not saying they didn't use too lol. I'm not pro but i think they did use dynamic Gl in that demo, how i know? Let me show you. Look carefully in first shot, look how shadows are just dark without any light bounces unlike demo one, it's just trying to mimic it Gl and not even good one. As you see in second shot there a some greeny look in place because of there are greens and so light bounces from using of Gl. Also in thirdshot look how details in shadow losing visiblity due no Gl.
Another example about how this stuff work:
Also for distance especially look city details, your answer is there. Quality is so bad but still it's very visible to me. Gladly i had high quality version of that demo so you can see how great distance and details visible for Novigrad. Can you show me sample like that one from retail game?
I hope these helps.
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Oh come on, not this old nugget again, this stopped being true years ago, with a powerful gaming pc you absolutely wreck toy story in every conceivable way.
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The biggest question for me is - will they try and make their engine more scalable for Switch 2? Considering the success of Witcher 3 (a full price older game, that's technically inferior selling from the sounds of it quite well).
Not port begging yet unless we're counting retroactive port begging of a non-existant game?
Not port begging yet unless we're counting retroactive port begging of a non-existant game?
I really hope they do not build a next gen witcher game with what certainly be underpowered nintendo hardware in mind, that would be a huge bummer for me, i want them to push boundaries.