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Do you agree that Into the Spider-Verse is the greatest Comic Book Movie or are you wrong?
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You can make valid arguments, I think, for Spider Man 2, IW, Endgame, Winter Solder, Dark Knight, and the Incredibles.
But FFH > Spider-Verse? That one is a hell of a take.
Forreal. They get way more comic book mileage by animating it; they can do more fantastic and creative things with greater ease.
Yup it is for me, way better than anything out of the mcu imo. The writing just a cut above them, especially for telling a story not about perfect looking white man number #2343.
LIKE LOOK AT THIS SHIT:
LIKE LOOK AT THIS SHIT:
It's fun. However...It doesn't have any tension...nothing is at stake. It does have some of my favorite spidey suit designs. Gwen's suit was just great and I loved seeing it on the big screen. Miles' suit was also amazing. But the multiverse stuff kind of detracts Miles' story, and puts him in the backseat of his own damn movie. The stuff with him and his uncle was the best. Also too much licensed music for me. Beautiful movie though.
Into the spiderverse is also CGI bud. It has some hand drawn stuff but it's also a CGI film
These Far From Home mentions make me wonder if there's some other Far From Home that I didn't see. I thought Far From Home was a thoroughly mediocre experience outside of that one illusions scene and Jake Gyllenhaal's performance.
Anyway, I'm not sure if Spider-Verse is the best comic book superhero movie for me, but it's up there.
When you don't single out superheroes it becomes even more muddled, because then you're also counting stuff like Oldboy, Akira, Persepolis, Blue is the Warmest Colour, The Death of Stalin and Snowpiercer which is just on an entirely other level than most superhero stuff.
Anyway, I'm not sure if Spider-Verse is the best comic book superhero movie for me, but it's up there.
When you don't single out superheroes it becomes even more muddled, because then you're also counting stuff like Oldboy, Akira, Persepolis, Blue is the Warmest Colour, The Death of Stalin and Snowpiercer which is just on an entirely other level than most superhero stuff.
In sheer filmmaking craft the best comic adaptation is probably A History of Violence, and I'd take Scott Pilgrim over Spiderverse.
That poster's not dissing CGI though. It's totally possible to love Spider-Verse for its visuals, but think that the Endgame end fight lacks punch because it's pretty much all computer generated.
I personally thought the best things in Endgame were in the first two acts. The ending is nice from a fanservice perspective, but it's nowhere near the best thing the movie does.
In no order,
Spider-verse
The Dark Knight
Mask of the Phantasm
I can't even rank them against one another
Spider-verse
The Dark Knight
Mask of the Phantasm
I can't even rank them against one another
I guess I'm wrong then because in terms of live action Endgame and a few other movies are easily above it and in terms of animated movies Mask of the Phantasm is way, way better.
Infinity War and Endgame would have been thought impossible just a decade ago.
As good as Spideyverse is, WB have been making amazing comic book cartoons since the 90s.
As good as Spideyverse is, WB have been making amazing comic book cartoons since the 90s.
It's not a take when alot of people agree.
Threads like this never disappoint.
Its solid, but not quite in my top 5.
Also, thread titles like this should be bannable. I post on another forum where this type of titling pretty much became standard and it annoyed me so much I stopped posting there.
Also, thread titles like this should be bannable. I post on another forum where this type of titling pretty much became standard and it annoyed me so much I stopped posting there.
I feel pretty much the same way about Spiderverse. For the life of me I can't find out what people find so special about this movie outside the Prowler chase scene.
Endgame is the conclusion of a 10 year story arc, there's just certain things that have to happen in order to wrap things up and I guess some long overdue fan service is one of them.
To each their own but you couldn't wrap up something like this any better in a film.
They definitely did that on purpose. Something like that doesn't happen accidentally.
It's a great film and easily the best animated feature of 2018. But no, it's not the best comic book movie, Batman Begins, TDK, Logan, Infinity War/Endgame are more deserving in my opinion. Spiderverse definitely nailed comic book page turned to screen feel better than any live-action film, but that's expected from the animation.
There's also a couple of DC's DTV animated films that I think are more interesting than Spiderverse (TDKR, Under the Red Hood, Flashpoint Paradox) but it seems conversations like that are always revolving around theatrical releases.
EDIT: Always forget that V for Vendetta and Sin City are adaptations of comic books, so, Spideverse wouldn't make it in my top 5 tbh.
There's also a couple of DC's DTV animated films that I think are more interesting than Spiderverse (TDKR, Under the Red Hood, Flashpoint Paradox) but it seems conversations like that are always revolving around theatrical releases.
EDIT: Always forget that V for Vendetta and Sin City are adaptations of comic books, so, Spideverse wouldn't make it in my top 5 tbh.
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Probably yes
Batman Begins is really good, TDK is good but last act drags, Logan's last act is mediocre. Endgame and IW are up there but only work together so I wouldn't count them either.
Batman Begins is really good, TDK is good but last act drags, Logan's last act is mediocre. Endgame and IW are up there but only work together so I wouldn't count them either.
Miles relationship with his dad. His feeling like an outsider at school. Him finding who Prowler is. Peter and the rest of the Spider people potentially dying due to them being in the wrong dimension. There's both tension and stakes throughout the film.
FFH is a decent enough movie, but it has a lot wrong with it.
There's an absolute avalanche of "wacky coincidence causing problems" lazy sitcom-level writing, from being "caught while changing" (lock the door, you idiots), to accidentally ordering a drone strike against a classmate (and then giving him a concussion?), to saying a forced, completely unnatural sentence that causes a massive shift in the MCU as a whole.
The portrayal Tom Holland does is decent enough, but there's absolutely none of the wisecracking Spider-Man from the comic-books to be found. The action (minus the illusion scene, which could barely be qualified as action) isn't very inventive, the pacing is odd, the Flash subplot is meaningless, and there's humor that just feels juvenile and dumb ("Night Monkey" and "Spider Tingle" come to mind).
The portrayal Tom Holland does is decent enough, but there's absolutely none of the wisecracking Spider-Man from the comic-books to be found. The action (minus the illusion scene, which could barely be qualified as action) isn't very inventive, the pacing is odd, the Flash subplot is meaningless, and there's humor that just feels juvenile and dumb ("Night Monkey" and "Spider Tingle" come to mind).
I did actually like the movie for the most part, but compared to ITSV, a masterclass in almost every area of filmmaking, I just have trouble seeing what the heck people are seeing in FFH. To me, it's not even remotely close.
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not really...like every nolan movie, the movie went downhill when it reached the final act with the villain enacting an (over)elaborate plot to destroy the city followed by the (supposedly to be) OMGWTFBBQ revelation (Ducard being Ra's, the joker being 'wrong' about humanity, Talia's identity) that is more eyerolling than clever. The build up is great no doubt. But the plans of final act of all 3 dark knight movie is some plain'ol BS (spreading fear gas on gotham, putting 2 bombs on 2 ships, and whatever the fuck that Bane's plannng that allows Batman to teleport via deus ex machina)
But to each his own.
I think Miles' story gets lost amongst the multi-universal character shenanigans. There are dramatic beats that just don't get their time to breathe.
A movie just about Miles, Peter and Gwen that left the expanded Spider-Verse to a sequel would've had a better shot at being my favorite, I think.
A movie just about Miles, Peter and Gwen that left the expanded Spider-Verse to a sequel would've had a better shot at being my favorite, I think.
I'd put your post in spoilers just to be on the safe side. I actually agree with most of the things you pointed out. However, I consider those elements window dressing for the actual emotional core of the movie, which in my opinion is
Peter being granted great power, even greater than he already had, and really struggling with the great responsibility that comes with it. It's a very compelling situation to explore.
So I agree that sometimes the movie feels like it's rehashing tired teenage movie tropes, which is why I can't wait for the adult phase of Peter's life. But at the same time there's some depth beneath the surface that works really well with the events of the rest of the MCU.
It's great, but probably not even in my top 10 comic book movies tbh.
Infinity War, Endgame and Winter Soldier definitely are, so take that as you will.
Infinity War, Endgame and Winter Soldier definitely are, so take that as you will.
The hype for Spiderverse really over sold me on how good it would be. I need to see it again to judge it better.
But people should probably stop over hyping things they like. It screws up expectations and makes me unable to enjoy the film first time through without thinking about "is this why everyone likes this, is it this part or this part or this next bit".
As I said, I'll watch it again. But right now I liked it, didn't love it.
But people should probably stop over hyping things they like. It screws up expectations and makes me unable to enjoy the film first time through without thinking about "is this why everyone likes this, is it this part or this part or this next bit".
As I said, I'll watch it again. But right now I liked it, didn't love it.