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Do people really think everything’s gonna magically open again May 1st?
- Thread starter ExhaustedWalrus
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Yeehaws think this is enough time. It's going to be infuriating seeing the conservative movement, yet again, deny reality for the fictional ideological world that exists in their heads.
Expect what the GOP tried to do in Wisconsin to be a template for the whole country, and not just for elections. Say everything is fine, people are safe, and normal life must return because freedoms and the market.
Expect what the GOP tried to do in Wisconsin to be a template for the whole country, and not just for elections. Say everything is fine, people are safe, and normal life must return because freedoms and the market.
My job apparently? I don't know how to word this without giving away where I work but I was surprised to learn last night that we'll be opening to the public again on Monday like nothing is happening. I mean I'm sure they'll clean more than normal but it makes no sense to reopen. The profit isn't even going to be that much so I don't get what Scrooge's plan is.
Sorry I was referring to May 1 quarantine lift. It won't be three months and US is also not doing the kind of aggressive quarantining that China did. Flattening the curve means we don't overwhelm the healthcare system in a huge spike by prolonging the time period we need to be vigilant. Instead of a short and sudden spike, we flatten and lengthen the time period of infections.
Mid June seems accurate for some cities to relax a bit. I think the US will be tightening and softening constantly for several years.
What do you mean "tried to do"?
The election happened and huge amounts of people were likely infected.
Nope.
I think some things will gradually open starting around the middle of May, going into June. It'll be really slow.
So, only a fraction of what is closed now will start up again until July. Then more during July-August, but still far from everything.
I think some things will gradually open starting around the middle of May, going into June. It'll be really slow.
So, only a fraction of what is closed now will start up again until July. Then more during July-August, but still far from everything.
Indeed, it pains me because I have close relatives still hopeful that this will all pass or that we'll be able to resume our normal activities in a month or so. It's gonna be a long and bumpy ride and most people are not expecting and most certainly are not prepared for that.
That is extremely hyperbolic. We will not be in the current state of lockdown past mid-summer, likely (depending on where you live), but there will certainly still be restrictions in place on large gatherings, free travel, and distancing for 12-24 months, and we will survive.
Most of the states that will be below 1000 active cases at the end of the month will be rural midwestern ones where they didn't issue stay at home orders anyway. Lifting social distancing guidelines for them will have no impact, and Hawaii sure as hell doesn't plan to "Open for business" for mainland travel anytime soon.
By tried to do, I mean as an attempt at normalizing it. Fox News will use it as an example that normal life can happen again, and thus the GOP uses it as a hope for a grand reopening to appease the God King in the White House.
For some, that might as well be jail. I finally want to be around other human beings and can't fucking do that anymore, how do you think that fucking feels? 24 months? Not a fucking chance in hell will I last that long. FUCK THAT. It will take multiple generations to undo the mental damage that would leave on the population.
A whole lot of idiots or people just desperate to get back to work.
Either way, you're going to get a massive wave of new infections.
Either way, you're going to get a massive wave of new infections.
May 1st sounds crazy. When you say "everything' as in go back to how it was before this, then that's going to to take a long time. No one really has that answer right now.
In the US, If current lock downs slow the spread enough (and models are showing that it is), then we can start easing restrictions in the next few months. More people can get back to work and restaurants will open, but don't expect concerts, sports games, or conventions anytime soon.
In the US, If current lock downs slow the spread enough (and models are showing that it is), then we can start easing restrictions in the next few months. More people can get back to work and restaurants will open, but don't expect concerts, sports games, or conventions anytime soon.
I think we can start gradually opening up things at some point, it doesn't have to be all or nothing
I know for a fact that things won't go back to normal.
Minneapolis has already announced that our beaches, rec centers, and large park events are close for the entire summer.
My suspicion is that we will have a lifting of Shelter In Place in early May here in Minnesota. We seem to be pretty low on cases and I think Walz wants to have some semblance of sustainability. I think we'll have encouraged social distancing, limited people in retail stores, restaurants will have new restrictions on capacity and distance, etc.
In addition we'll have increased testing, and procedures for shelter in place emergencies if they need to enforce it quickly.
Events like state fairs, concerts, etc. are dead in the water until 2021.
Minneapolis has already announced that our beaches, rec centers, and large park events are close for the entire summer.
My suspicion is that we will have a lifting of Shelter In Place in early May here in Minnesota. We seem to be pretty low on cases and I think Walz wants to have some semblance of sustainability. I think we'll have encouraged social distancing, limited people in retail stores, restaurants will have new restrictions on capacity and distance, etc.
In addition we'll have increased testing, and procedures for shelter in place emergencies if they need to enforce it quickly.
Events like state fairs, concerts, etc. are dead in the water until 2021.
Denial, same way people think about other things that shouldn't be mentioned as to not derail the conversation.
No chance, June possibly things will begin moving - August we begin to enter a stage of the world opening boarders again.
years for recovery.
that's my guess anyway.
years for recovery.
that's my guess anyway.
Human civilization survived much worse things than being stuck at home.
The economy is another story.
Honestly I can't see it getting any better in the US until things are locked down even more and we have some kind of a vaccine. So, like, in a long time from now.
Because the US isn't completely locking down. It's getting way, way worse here. And if our leadership is talking about getting things back to "normal" as soon as May, then things will continue to get worse. It doesn't just go away on it's own.
Because the US isn't completely locking down. It's getting way, way worse here. And if our leadership is talking about getting things back to "normal" as soon as May, then things will continue to get worse. It doesn't just go away on it's own.
I think there's confusion on everything "going back to normal" being used interchangibly between full blown lockdowns/shelter in place and a loosening of social distancing restrictions.
I don't think we'll be in lockdown/hardcore shelter in place mode past end of May/early June. What I do believe we'll see is a continuing of maintaining six feet apart, wearing gloves and masks, and capping capacity for any given place at 50% of what they typically are. I can see us returning to movie theaters this summer, for example, but capping attendance at half the seats. At least for the states smart enough to continue these types of measures indefinitely even past the shelter in place stopping.
Those types of changes I see sticking until sometime in 2021 or when we have a promising vaccine.
I don't think we'll be in lockdown/hardcore shelter in place mode past end of May/early June. What I do believe we'll see is a continuing of maintaining six feet apart, wearing gloves and masks, and capping capacity for any given place at 50% of what they typically are. I can see us returning to movie theaters this summer, for example, but capping attendance at half the seats. At least for the states smart enough to continue these types of measures indefinitely even past the shelter in place stopping.
Those types of changes I see sticking until sometime in 2021 or when we have a promising vaccine.
I wouldn't call anyone delusional when our government isn't communicating on this well. Heck I think Canada is the first nation today where the government acknowledges this can go on for a year and they are one of the least affected countries.
I can see restrictions loosening a bit in May, well, maybe not US.
Restaurants start opening, non essential stores, etc. Of course with limitations adhering to social distancing.
Large gatherings will still be forbidden. So, no sport events or exhibitions.
Restaurants start opening, non essential stores, etc. Of course with limitations adhering to social distancing.
Large gatherings will still be forbidden. So, no sport events or exhibitions.
Yeahhhh I think maybe NY/NJ may be slowing down by then (knock on wood), it's going to be raging in other places. So no. Furthermore, I don't think people are just going to start normally doing things as they did before.
my armchair guess is a broad may-july window to "normalcy". will vary with different regions based on infected/death rates and how distancing/shut downs are 'legally' doled out
it's fuzzy but may sounds about right, despite it not being a particularly good thing
it's fuzzy but may sounds about right, despite it not being a particularly good thing
Here in France as well. And in Austria, Germany, etc. Trump is particularly egregious with all of this but you do remember we all live under capitalism I hope