I see the invert X option in control menu's all the time but do a lot of people really use it? I get Invert Y (use it myself) or Southpaw but switching the X axis just seems.....weird?
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Do a lot of people really use invert X axis?
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I hardly can understand inverted Y for anything except planes of submarines, don't get me started with inverted X.
I imagine it could be useful to invert X for controllers designed with disabled gamers in mind where perhaps the controller could not be mounted in a way that allowed it to be oriented for left to mean left and right to mean right.
For instance if the controller needed to be mounted underneath a surface allowing for the analogue stick to be controlled with the thigh the directions would be reversed so you'd need to correct for that in the options.
like this thing:
note the analog stick on the bottom, it's meant to be operated with the thigh or rocked on a table for one handed operation due to missing an arm...
For instance if the controller needed to be mounted underneath a surface allowing for the analogue stick to be controlled with the thigh the directions would be reversed so you'd need to correct for that in the options.
like this thing:
note the analog stick on the bottom, it's meant to be operated with the thigh or rocked on a table for one handed operation due to missing an arm...
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I used inverted X for years because the first game I played with camera control was FFXII on PS2, so that's how I learned how to move the camera. I believe that's "standard" in Japan, and their "inverted" is the western "normal"? Correct me if I'm wrong.
Anyway I re-learned on PS3 and don't even remember the difference until I tried to go back and play XII again years later and realised I couldn't actually adjust the camera to "normal". I'm glad they included the ability to change it in The Zodiac Age.
Anyway I re-learned on PS3 and don't even remember the difference until I tried to go back and play XII again years later and realised I couldn't actually adjust the camera to "normal". I'm glad they included the ability to change it in The Zodiac Age.
I invert Y in pretty much all games except where there's a movable cursor on screen (like Panzer Dragoon, or like... Cities Skylines of course), but I only invert X in certain games. Mostly Ninja Gaiden Black and Ninja Gaiden II (because I just got used to it in Black), and 3D Zelda games (I got used to it for Zelda games because I don't think you could turn it off for Twilight Princess for Gamecube so I just got used to it).
I just can't invert X in any first-person game, or game that makes you aim in first person and doesn't let you have those "separate."
I couldn't work with this nowadays, of course.
I just can't invert X in any first-person game, or game that makes you aim in first person and doesn't let you have those "separate."
I'm pretty sure this is the layout I liked to use back in like... Gamecube days because it mimicked how Goldeneye worked.The real crazies use legacy controls
I couldn't work with this nowadays, of course.
I used to all the time, I hooked Twilight Princess on the Wii a while back and was SHOCKED the game had inverted controls, I did not remember it at all! AND THEY COULDNT BE CHANGED
Those poor people need to be locked up. Also playing Halo that way seems like a nightmare. The true way to control halo is bumper jumper.The real crazies use legacy controls
When I originally got the og Xbox I got halo CE and the first time I played through the game was with inverted controls mostly due to the fact the game outsmarted me and I kept those controls not realizing I could switch them back. Other than that I can't think of any other time I played inverted outside of a flight sim.
Im normal NOW, in almost everything but I WILL invert Y on flying stuff.
For example I had a brain collapse when I went from Panzer Dragoon 1 to Zwei (they switched Y).
I will use inverted Y in Ace Combat, etc.
Looking back, in Ocarina of time when you aim is inverted as well, and it never bothered me.
For example I had a brain collapse when I went from Panzer Dragoon 1 to Zwei (they switched Y).
I will use inverted Y in Ace Combat, etc.
Looking back, in Ocarina of time when you aim is inverted as well, and it never bothered me.
This is me.
I've been noticing just invert X is missing more and more often these days, and it makes games unplayable on a controller for me. I've tried to switch, but I just end up motion sick and frustrated.
It's not like it takes any more effect than an option for invert Y and yet...
That's crazy, I actually finished TP back in the gamecube days and I don't remember this either.
I have inverted X on certain third person games that aren't shooters. Like platformers, action/adventure games, etc. Sometimes it just felt better, not sure why (maybe it was inverted by default and called it normal? not sure).
Especially during the PS2/Xbox/GC era. Haven't done it recently that I can recall.
Especially during the PS2/Xbox/GC era. Haven't done it recently that I can recall.
The upside down controller grip.
Basically, the controller is facing up, but it's held 180 degrees.
The Y-axis is the only axis I'm willing to invert, depending on the controls of the game, for flight controls; I will invert it for airplanes and the like but will keep it at the default if it's something like human flight. Everything else is 'normal'
People always point to flight games when invert is brought up, but inverting y feels pretty standard when you think about how your head/neck operates. Tilt back to look up/push forward to look down.
I actually don't know whether I use inverted X or not. I definitely use inverted Y, but then X always feels wrong to me whether I keep it normal or inverted. Eventually I just pick one and get used to it, but then the next game I play, I'll forget which X setting I used and try both again.
So I guess I flip-flop on the X. I'm pretty sure I pick inverted X the majority of the time, though.
So I guess I flip-flop on the X. I'm pretty sure I pick inverted X the majority of the time, though.
Makes me have more sympathy for people that never play games and trying to play with a controller... must be so confusing.The real crazies use legacy controls
But then again, we are used to a certain way so it's harder to unlearn, versus someone that has never touched a controller...
Invert Y only in flying games, really. Doesn't matter if it's first or third person. I used to be the type to have normal in FPS, inverted X/Y in third-person, but trained myself to use normal in any situation, mainly because I think it was Uncharted 2 that had different aiming controls depending on the weapon.
Third person = inverted X
First person view without being able to move the character = normal
First person with moving the character around playing with keyboard + mouse = normal
First person with moving the character around playing with controller* = inverted X
Never thought about it, never payed attantion. Sometimes it just felt "right" to me and sometimes not. It took me years to learn about all the inverted - not inverted battle and what is what.
I remember Mario Sunshine being one of the first games, where I had constant trouble with pushing the camera into the wrong direction. Beyond Good and Evil was the first I remember with settings to invert.
*usually I don't do this, tho.
First person view without being able to move the character = normal
First person with moving the character around playing with keyboard + mouse = normal
First person with moving the character around playing with controller* = inverted X
Never thought about it, never payed attantion. Sometimes it just felt "right" to me and sometimes not. It took me years to learn about all the inverted - not inverted battle and what is what.
I remember Mario Sunshine being one of the first games, where I had constant trouble with pushing the camera into the wrong direction. Beyond Good and Evil was the first I remember with settings to invert.
*usually I don't do this, tho.
